Derailers Anonymous

[fiveohwblow]

I work in hollywood and yes traffic is a son of a bitch. I'm luck I get to carpool with a guy who lives about 10 mins from my house and we work later (start work at 10) so we miss most of the traffic. But still a normal day is 1:15 mins each way. (70ish miles)

I work with a few people that live less then 20 miles away from the office and it takes them over 45 mins to get in.

That's not bad considering I commute on the I5 and my total distance traveled is 16 miles and it takes me an average of 45 minutes. Not bad. 1:15 would eventually wear on me again as it has before.

Thanks for the info!

[fiveohwblow]

That sucks, dont lay down. Fight for your sanity

I'm certainly trying.

[Shaolin Crane]

My commute sucks too :uh:

[Shaolin Crane]

Going and picking up my ex was a 2 hour round trip. Weeee

[Shaolin Crane]

LOL
http://www.totalbeauty.com/content/slideshows/fitness-zodiac-survey?lc=Earthlink1001

[enkeivette]

Thats fucking retarded, they found a hot celeb for each sign to satisfy everyones fucking ego. I hope your motorgen profile got hacked and it wasnt you who posted that.

[Shaolin Crane]

No I posted it. I thought it was thoroughly hilarious for how retarded it was. "Lets blame our ______ on something so we don't have to change it"

[enkeivette]

No I posted it. I thought it was thoroughly hilarious for how retarded it was. "Lets blame our ______ on something so we don't have to change it"

Oh, ok... hahhaha

[Shaolin Crane]

I keep hearing people complain how they're tired of being fat, skinny, lonely weak. Blah blah blah but they do nothing to change it. Rather tiresome.

[enkeivette]

Ive been sick this past week, and studying for an interview. Only got to the gym once. Im sure Ive lost my 275 ten rep bench capability. Fuck. Its been my goal since highschool.

[Shaolin Crane]

I did 225 unassisted with plenty more left but I don't trust my shoulder. I'd rather not die so i'll just stick there. Free weights i'll go heavy heavy, just not with a bar.

[Vettezuki]

13 year old girl Benches 240lb RAW - YouTube

[Shaolin Crane]

As impressive as that is, the form was terrible.

[Vettezuki]

As impressive as that is, the form was terrible.

It had one purpose. To fuck with you.

[Shaolin Crane]

It had one purpose. To fuck with you.

My ego is not hurt :huh:

[fiveohwblow]

Wtf was that rainbow arched back shit? Is this a common form I've not seen? Not even impressed with her 1.75" range of motion. So much wtf going through my head right now

[BRUTAL64]

I see egos are hurt....:smack:

[fiveohwblow]

I see egos are hurt....:smack:

Lol nah I'm a weak 150 lb 5' nothing man as it is but I recognize odd shit when I see it.

[enkeivette]

She arched her back to turn it into a decline press. Most body builders are usually stronger on decline, youre using more of your pectoral and tricep, less shoulder and upper pec. The heavier I lift, the more I arch.

And Guy, you should take a page out of her book. By not letting the bar down past the point where your elbows are 90 degrees, it limits your range of motion and saves your shoulders. Just like when I do triceps, I never allow the bar to go past the point where my elbow bends 90 degrees, to save my elbows. I never arch as much as she did, but she may just be compensating for having no incline strength. ...She is a 13 year old girl. Haha

[Shaolin Crane]

She arched her back to turn it into a decline press. Most body builders are usually stronger on decline, youre using more of your pectoral and tricep, less shoulder and upper pec. The heavier I lift, the more I arch.

And Guy, you should take a page out of her book. By not letting the bar down past the point where your elbows are 90 degrees, it limits your range of motion and saves your shoulders. Just like when I do triceps, I never allow the bar to go past the point where my elbow bends 90 degrees, to save my elbows. I never arch as much as she did, but she may just be compensating for having no incline strength. ...She is a 13 year old girl. Haha

I'm not retarded, that's how I do it, body has no benefit to going past 90* Especially me, with my bad shoulder and a 80" reach, recipe for disaster. My shoulder is that bad where it's popped out just warming up with the bar. Not as bad no that I've worked on it some, but it still makes me iffy.

[enkeivette]

Lol nah I'm a weak 150 lb 5' nothing man as it is but I recognize odd shit when I see it.

Its the guys 5'2 and under that you gotta watch out for. I dont know if they were picked on and it made them tough, or theyre just angry or what, but 85% of the time, those are the ones that like to fight.

Look at jerky jerk mark whalberg. There was this guy from my hs, Andy Thompson. 5'2, starting steroids his sophomore year. He fought everyone! And he got stabbed and killed in a bar fight a few years ago.

[Shaolin Crane]

Steroids aren't the devil. Like anything else, they need to be used properly.

[enkeivette]

I'm not retarded, that's how I do it, body has no benefit to going past 90* Especially me, with my bad shoulder and a 80" reach, recipe for disaster. My shoulder is that bad where it's popped out just warming up with the bar. Not as bad no that I've worked on it some, but it still makes me iffy.

Goood... goooooooood. Muahahah

[enkeivette]

Steroids aren't the devil. Like anything else, they need to be used properly.

Id use them if I wasnt so terrified of a receding hairline. Ive already been on Propecia since I was 25, just in case.

[Shaolin Crane]

I know plenty of guys that had no side effects. They also don't abuse the shit out of them either. I would'nt mind the baldness, I basically shave my head already.

[enkeivette]

If you can dedicate 2.5+ hours at the gym 6 days a week, than go for it. Otherwise youre compensating but no where near your natural potential anyways.

[Shaolin Crane]

That's about my schedule now.

[enkeivette]

After you gain 30-50 lbs of muscle and you start to plateau no matter what you do... well... I cant advise you to do anything illegal.

[Shaolin Crane]

Yeah. I can't though, i'llI'll just keep eating and lifting and see what happens.

[enkeivette]

It will make it harder for you to pass the poly if youre trying to be a cop. But, youve done the poly already?

[Shaolin Crane]

Nope, and I could be the best psychopath on the planet and beat the poly but I won't beat the blood test. So I'll just stay natural until my 30's when it "allowed" to use them.

[fiveohwblow]

Nope, and I could be the best psychopath on the planet and beat the poly but I won't beat the blood test. So I'll just stay natural until my 30's when it "allowed" to use them.

Now that I'm old and in my 30's I want.

[Shaolin Crane]

Need boss block

[Shaolin Crane]

Fuck this broken wrist

[fiveohwblow]

Need to take a shit. Use the other wrist. Give yourself the stranger.

[Shaolin Crane]

Rather go to the gym. However, too painful to lift heavy. I'll give it another day

[fiveohwblow]

Rather go to the gym. However, too painful to lift heavy. I'll give it another day

Well then it's perfect. No heavy lifting.

[enkeivette]

Just do a ton of flys and work your chest, keep your wrists out of it.

[enkeivette]

I hope none of you are paying for those tiny $9 tubes of 'auto grade' silicone. Word to the wise, silicone is fucking silicone. The big ass caulking tubes of clear and black silicone for $4 at home depot are the same thing.

NOT silicone II. Just silicone.

[enkeivette]

On that note, I hope none of you are paying $100 for monster cable speaker wire. Go get some lighting wire cut for 13 cents a foot. Cuz copper is fucking copper. One thousand dollars to anyone who can hear the difference. :rolleyes:

[Shaolin Crane]

Just do a ton of flys and work your chest, keep your wrists out of it.

Too bad it doesn't work like that.

[Shaolin Crane]

On that note, I hope none of you are paying $100 for monster cable speaker wire. Go get some lighting wire cut for 13 cents a foot. Cuz copper is fucking copper. One thousand dollars to anyone who can hear the difference. :rolleyes:

Monster cable is more flexible. Not worth it, I buy eBay shit cause it's cheap.

[fiveohwblow]

monoprice.com or amazon

[enkeivette]

Too bad it doesn't work like that.

Works like that for me. Flys hurt your shoulders too?

[enkeivette]

Monster cable is more flexible. Not worth it, I buy eBay shit cause it's cheap.

You can buy white lighting wire. And cheaper than 13 cents a foot?

[Shaolin Crane]

Works like that for me. Flys hurt your shoulders too?

Since I can barely use even my phone because of the way your radial, ulna and metacarpals work when it's broken this way the only motion that isn't threatening healing is perpendicular to the injury. I.e I could do knuckle pushups with a wrap. But it's not worth it, i'll just wait it out.

[Shaolin Crane]

You can buy white lighting wire. And cheaper than 13 cents a foot?

I bought some stuff called raptor wire, 50' for $6 Havn't used it yet.

[Shaolin Crane]

Not a bad deal
http://californiafords.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=112785

[Vettezuki]

Not a bad deal
http://californiafords.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=112785

Even asking seems reasonable.

[Shaolin Crane]

Yup. Maybe I'll offer 20...

[Vettezuki]

Yup. Maybe I'll offer 20...

I would too expecting a counter between 21 - 22.

[blackax]

Not a bad deal
http://californiafords.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=112785

Damn 23 isnt that bad of a price.

[fiveohwblow]

Saw that it was in California fords, clicked link, I has disappoint.

[Shaolin Crane]

Saw that it was in California fords, clicked link, I has disappoint.

:laugh:

[enkeivette]

Saw that it was in California fords, clicked link, I has disappoint.

Disappointed by a procharged Z06...

:picard:

[Vettezuki]

Disappointed by a procharged Z06...

:picard:

Cuz they suk dawg. :smack:

[fiveohwblow]

Cuz they suk dawg. :smack:

Word

[Shaolin Crane]

For those of you that don't know. I received my approval to advance for CHP and am finally entering backgrounds. Feels good to have made it this far.

[Vettezuki]

For those of you that don't know. I received my approval to advance for CHP and am finally entering backgrounds. Feels good to have made it this far.

On a personal level, congratulations.

[Shaolin Crane]

On a personal level, congratulations.

On a non personal level? Gubbermant can fuck themselves? :smack:

[Vettezuki]

On a non personal level? Gubbermant can fuck themselves? :smack:

That's right tax eater. :nutkick:

[enkeivette]

For those of you that don't know. I received my approval to advance for CHP and am finally entering backgrounds. Feels good to have made it this far.

From a selfless POV, congrats. On a personal level... dont tread on me piggy.

[enkeivette]

'Had a great summer... went fishing. Although I stepped on a piece of glass in the parking lot, which hurt. And it got infected, even though I peed on it.'

[Vettezuki]

Google is buying the next generation simple quantum computers. It's still very young, but fascinating tech. It has some people freaking out, because it would, among other things, render all current encryption mechanisms futile, make pattern recognition systems (like face, etc.), basically instantaneous, etc. It also let us completely explore problem sets that are currently off limits, or very difficult, like protein folding. But we're not quite there yet. The tech is amazing.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/30757/quantum-computing-signals-the-beginning-of-the-second-computer-revolution

[enkeivette]

888
889

7 foot long driveline.

[enkeivette]

Guy, I sent you a message. Youre a jerk or your phone sucks.

[enkeivette]

890

Ban time! :D

[fiveohwblow]

I recognize heep forums

[enkeivette]

Google is buying the next generation simple quantum computers. It's still very young, but fascinating tech. It has some people freaking out, because it would, among other things, render all current encryption mechanisms futile, make pattern recognition systems (like face, etc.), basically instantaneous, etc. It also let us completely explore problem sets that are currently off limits, or very difficult, like protein folding. But we're not quite there yet. The tech is amazing.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/30757/quantum-computing-signals-the-beginning-of-the-second-computer-revolution

Protein folding?

[Vettezuki]

Protein folding?

Proteins are complex chains of amino acids. They can fold into molecularly appropriate forms, compatible with life, or they can be malformed and cause trouble for the organism. The process of folding from one form to another is a combinatorically huge problem space.

Protein folding is the process by which a protein structure assumes its functional shape or conformation. It is the physical process by which a polypeptide folds into its characteristic and functional three-dimensional structure from random coil.[1] Each protein exists as an unfolded polypeptide or random coil when translated from a sequence of mRNA to a linear chain of amino acids. This polypeptide lacks any stable (long-lasting) three-dimensional structure (the left hand side of the neighbouring figure). Amino acids interact with each other to produce a well-defined three-dimensional structure, the folded protein (the right hand side of the figure), known as the native state. The resulting three-dimensional structure is determined by the amino acid sequence (Anfinsen's dogma).[2] Experiments [3] beginning in the 1980s indicate the codon for an amino acid can also influence protein structure.

The correct three-dimensional structure is essential to function, although some parts of functional proteins may remain unfolded.[4] Failure to fold into native structure generally produces inactive proteins, but in some instances misfolded proteins have modified or toxic functionality. Several neurodegenerative and other diseases are believed to result from the accumulation of amyloid fibrils formed by misfolded proteins.[5] Many allergies are caused by incorrect folding of some proteins, for the immune system does not produce antibodies for certain protein structures.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_folding

[enkeivette]

Youre a smart guy Ben, Id vote for you.

[Shaolin Crane]

Guy, I sent you a message. Youre a jerk or your phone sucks.

Got your message at 11.15

[enkeivette]

Mexican PCS?

[Shaolin Crane]

Sprint had my phone for repairs.

[enkeivette]

Can anyone think of a better was to say 'check for bikers in your blindspot?' in a short sweet way? Want to get a vinyl decal cut

[Shaolin Crane]

Don't be a dike. Check for bikes.

[enkeivette]

Don't be a dike. Check for bikes.

Lol, like.

[Shaolin Crane]

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/IMG_20130623_181512.jpg
Grabbed these today for $300

[Shaolin Crane]

And mounted. Love that I can clear 36's on stock height.
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/IMG_20130624_022202_821.jpg

[fiveohwblow]

And mounted. Love that I can clear 36's on stock height.
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/IMG_20130624_022202_821.jpg

What happened to the front bumper?

[94cobra69ss396]

Those look good!

[Shaolin Crane]

What happened to the front bumper?

I haven't welded it to the truck yet

[enkeivette]

Nice

[Shaolin Crane]

Those look good!

Thanks. With how bald my tires were and the price I couldn't pass them up. The rub a little on full lock and compression but nothing terrible. Going to fix the front suspension cause now the truck is kind of bouncy, and well, it's trashed :smack:

[enkeivette]

Thats a ridiculous deal btw, craigslist?

[Shaolin Crane]

Thats a ridiculous deal btw, craigslist?

You betcha. Listed for $500 too :D

[enkeivette]

You betcha. Listed for $500 too :D

A negotiator, I love it

[Shaolin Crane]

Oh I'm a lowballer. No shame lol

[Vettezuki]

Well it was a nice idea when I had it. I was going to pay off a not insubstantial personal business debt with a re-fi as we have lots of equity, but just after we started the process, the bond market went ape shit. Folks on my end have been waiting for the shoe to drop and expect it to get much much "worse". It's not a big deal personally other than what was going to be a nice free cash flow if I could have gotten the re-fi at a low rate over a long term will now be redirected to paying the business loan. It's half piss off as I was looking forward to having a little play money for the first time in years, but half ok since I'd be paying off a loan in 4 years or so instead of 30.

[enkeivette]

Well it was a nice idea when I had it. I was going to pay off a not insubstantial personal business debt with a re-fi as we have lots of equity, but just after we started the process, the bond market went ape shit. Folks on my end have been waiting for the shoe to drop and expect it to get much much "worse". It's not a big deal personally other than what was going to be a nice free cash flow if I could have gotten the re-fi at a low rate over a long term will now be redirected to paying the business loan. It's half piss off as I was looking forward to having a little play money for the first time in years, but half ok since I'd be paying off a loan in 4 years or so instead of 30.

Youre the saddest guy ever to own his own home, his own business, his dream car, and to be in a happy marriage ;)

[Vettezuki]

Youre the saddest guy ever to own his own home, his own business, his dream car, and to be in a happy marriage ;)

http://www.bleachernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/sad-panda.jpeg

[enkeivette]

Anyone ever tried to open up one of those rattling cats and weld a u-bolt around the element to hold it in place?

[Shaolin Crane]

Being that shit is toxic as fuck, no. Plus once its breaks down and starts to rattle I doubt it would work even if you stopped it from moving.

[enkeivette]

Toxic? Isnt it just platinum?

[fiveohwblow]

Being that shit is toxic as fuck, no. Plus once its breaks down and starts to rattle I doubt it would work even if you stopped it from moving.

Guy, you're toxic but we let you stick around. What gives

[enkeivette]

Repost to get a quick answer

My 3L diesel takes 10 quarts to fill, but I should be fine driving home slowly with 4 right? Since the pickup tube is all the way at the bottom?

I dont see this motor having more than 4 quarts of oil galley capacity

[fiveohwblow]

Repost to get a quick answer

My 3L diesel takes 10 quarts to fill, but I should be fine driving home slowly with 4 right? Since the pickup tube is all the way at the bottom?

I dont see this motor having more than 4 quarts of oil galley capacity

Not sure if srs

[enkeivette]

SRS? It was fine, oil light turned off after I put the 4 quarts in. Limped it home for a mile

[Shaolin Crane]

Guy, you're toxic but we let you stick around. What gives

Actually on this forum I let you stick around. Mod shit and all :pot_stir:

[Shaolin Crane]

SRS? It was fine, oil light turned off after I put the 4 quarts in. Limped it home for a mile

IF you were seriously that low, the engine would shut off anyhow. Most diesels use the oil pressure to fire the injectors. I had a nasty oil seal blowout on my old dually and limped it home(ish) while it was spraying oil from the back of the HPOP. Made it 2 blocks from the shop before it shut off, engine will shut down long before major damage occurs.

[fiveohwblow]

Actually on this forum I let you stick around. Mod shit and all :pot_stir:

Please, by all means, ban me

[enkeivette]

IF you were seriously that low, the engine would shut off anyhow. Most diesels use the oil pressure to fire the injectors. I had a nasty oil seal blowout on my old dually and limped it home(ish) while it was spraying oil from the back of the HPOP. Made it 2 blocks from the shop before it shut off, engine will shut down long before major damage occurs.

Well I added 4 quarts and its still not registering on the dipstick. Fucking mercedes engine doesnt read oil on the dipstick till an hour after it settles. Its going to be a 5 hour process figuring out how much I need to add tomorrow.

And Im going to have to run thicker oil since I cant wait 2 weeks for my 5-30 to come in the mail. Fuck

[enkeivette]

Pizza for the first person who can find this oil sold locally in OC. Same weight. We will also be accepting Mobil 1 5w30 ESP.

901

[enkeivette]

Its the MB 229.51 material spec with the 5w30 grade thats a pain in the ass.

[enkeivette]

Oh snap, Pep Boys says the have the Mobil 1 ESP 5w30. They didnt have it last year. Guess I have to buy myself some pizza. Win, win, win.

[Vettezuki]

Oh snap, Pep Boys says the have the Mobil 1 ESP 5w30. They didnt have it last year. Guess I have to buy myself some pizza. Win, win, win.

I'll help you eat it.

[Vettezuki]

BTW, did a little mpg test for the Vette. With heavily mixed freeway, street and a BIG chunk of romping through the mountains and WOT blasts I averaged 20mpg.

[enkeivette]

I'll help you eat it.

Thats what she said.

[enkeivette]

BTW, did a little mpg test for the Vette. With heavily mixed freeway, street and a BIG chunk of romping through the mountains and WOT blasts I averaged 20mpg.

Thats fantastic. I can do 18 all freeway, but if I put my foot into it it's single digits.

[Vettezuki]

Thats fantastic. I can do 18 all freeway, but if I put my foot into it it's single digits.

Well, bigger engine, blower and carb, 18mpg fwy, ain't bad. You must be making 150whp more than I am.

[Shaolin Crane]

My mileage took a pretty substantial hit from the new tires. 24mpg was my best. Now it's around 15-16 I think

[enkeivette]

My mileage took a pretty substantial hit from the new tires. 24mpg was my best. Now it's around 15-16 I think

Damn, ditch em, theyre not THAT much cooler

[94cobra69ss396]

Part of that is the gearing. If you regear to match the stock gearing you'll get some of that back.

[blackax]

My mileage took a pretty substantial hit from the new tires. 24mpg was my best. Now it's around 15-16 I think

also your speedometer odometer is now off so that can account for some as well.

[enkeivette]

also your speedometer odometer is now off so that can account for some as well.

Oh ya, you have to multiply your trip to make it actual milegae before you do the math.

[Shaolin Crane]

Did that. Drove around using a GPS speedo and actual listed distances, no bueno.

Can't go back to the old ones, they're toast.

[enkeivette]

Walked the Golden Gate bridge yesterday. Its um... a bridge that was painted red. Cool?

Do not drive across it btw. I lucked out and saw a sign in a parking garage ten mins before I planned to do so, warning that its only electronic toll now. Meaning, if you dont have a fast track, theyll mail you a lovely $50+ ticket. Motherless cock suckers. Nice way to fuck your tourists after they dump all of their money into your city. Fucking local gov, Im sure theyre getting a piece of that action.

[Shaolin Crane]

So I have a quandary. I'm thinking about getting a small loan to get both cars running, if I get picked up by CHP having three Cars down will make things significantly more difficult logistics wise. That and trying to save for two cars with other bills will take years as opposed to the small monthly it would be for the loan. 4K is about 100t a month and would get both cars running, and finish one of them. What y'all think?

[Vettezuki]

So I have a quandary. I'm thinking about getting a small loan to get both cars running, if I get picked up by CHP having three Cars down will make things significantly more difficult logistics wise. That and trying to save for two cars with other bills will take years as opposed to the small monthly it would be for the loan. 4K is about 100t a month and would get both cars running, and finish one of them. What y'all think?

I have strong feelings about this. Do not loan for toys. If you need transportation, don't dick around and get one reliable car working. (Truck?) If you must borrow to do this, then so be it, you can't be without reliable transportation in SoCal. But don't borrow for play things. Who cares if it takes years. Irrelevant.

1st - Essentials
Food, Clothing, Shelter, Transportation, Current Medical, etc.

2nd - Saving and Investing
So you have money for lean times and build for a half decent future and so you can take care yourself when you're older if you make it that far. This should be around 10%+ of your income. (Being hardcore, some people actually put this No. 1, it's called "pay yourself first".)

3rd - Play
Then play things with whatever is left that you can waft off the top. Consumption comes AFTER production. Horse goes BEFORE cart.

[enkeivette]

I have strong feelings about this. Do not loan for toys. If you need transportation, don't dick around and get one reliable car working. (Truck?) If you must borrow to do this, then so be it, you can't be without reliable transportation in SoCal. But don't borrow for play things. Who cares if it takes years. Irrelevant.

1st - Essentials
Food, Clothing, Shelter, Transportation, Current Medical, etc.

2nd - Saving and Investing
So you have money for lean times and build for a half decent future and so you can take care yourself when you're older if you make it that far. This should be around 10%+ of your income. (Being hardcore, some people actually put this No. 1, it's called "pay yourself first".)

3rd - Play
Then play things with whatever is left that you can waft off the top. Consumption comes AFTER production. Horse goes BEFORE cart.

2nd that. Put your truck parts on a low interest credit card.

Although I would argue that hookers should also be under column one somewhere.

[enkeivette]

PS, Tapatalk hasnt been working the past few days...

[Shaolin Crane]

2nd that. Put your truck parts on a low interest credit card.

Although I would argue that hookers should also be under column one somewhere.

What truck parts? All the things done to the truck were essential repairs. Tires came with the rims, turbo was needed because the old one was trashed, etc. Everything else has been simple zero cost repairs. Less than1000 total.

years right now are very relevant. WhenI'm gone from the shop I'm gone, no more shop space, etc. I need at least one secondary vehicle. Right now I have none, its not the first loan I took, I took one for my trans I paid off in a year, one for the blue truck that I paid off in 8. I keep accruing credit, right now i'm 755m and only getting better. It's not something I'm think of doing so I can "enjoy my play cars" finished strret car is an easier sell than a broken one and the street car was meant to be another a-b car. Not a play car

[Vettezuki]

PS, Tapatalk hasnt been working the past few days...

That's cuz the whole damn thing wasn't working from Sunday morning to this morning.

[Vettezuki]

What truck parts? All the things done to the truck were essential repairs. Tires came with the rims, turbo was needed because the old one was trashed, etc. Everything else has been simple zero cost repairs. Less than1000 total.

years right now are very relevant. WhenI'm gone from the shop I'm gone, no more shop space, etc. I need at least one secondary vehicle. Right now I have none, its not the first loan I took, I took one for my trans I paid off in a year, one for the blue truck that I paid off in 8. I keep accruing credit, right now i'm 755m and only getting better. It's not something I'm think of doing so I can "enjoy my play cars" finished strret car is an easier sell than a broken one and the street car was meant to be another a-b car. Not a play car

You can build a shop out of garage or stick up a building on property, or borrow/rent one. They're not scarce. Adam painted a boat hung from a ceiling at an apartment. If you wanna get it done, you will.

The building credit thing is kind of a line of bullshit sold to you mostly by credit card companies. You come in with significant down payment on whatever that is secured by the asset itself and creditors will lend. Period. Interest is money spent on money, it is an opportunity cost. It is defensible when used for large capital purchases (house) or as leverage in business (powerful tool there for extending returns), beyond this it falls off to stupid in a hurry.

Oh, and psychoogy almost EVERYONE speds more than they would have (on principle alone) than they would paying cash. Throw in service on top of that you see why so few people actually have much in the way of working/living capital and get themselves into hand-to-mouth situations.

I know I'm being preachy. But you're young and this shit is dead serious. Get it right now and you'll be totally fine. But your perspective matters a lot. Don't bullshit yourself.

[Vettezuki]

Finishing a car to sell is a simple business calculation. If you can net more from the sale (reasonably estimated) then borrowing can be perfectly sensible in that case. You net some to the bottom line AND get a liability off your balance sheet (registrations fees, etc.). I don't know why anyone needs two commuter cars unless they just love sacks of shit.

[Shaolin Crane]

You can build a shop out of garage or stick up a building on property, or borrow/rent one. They're not scarce. Adam painted a boat hung from a ceiling at an apartment. If you wanna get it done, you will.

The building credit thing is kind of a line of bullshit sold to you mostly by credit card companies. You come in with significant down payment on whatever that is secured by the asset itself and creditors will lend. Period. Interest is money spent on money, it is an opportunity cost. It is defensible when used for large capital purchases (house) or as leverage in business (powerful tool there for extending returns), beyond this it falls off to stupid in a hurry.

Oh, and psychoogy almost EVERYONE speds more than they would have (on principle alone) than they would paying cash. Throw in service on top of that you see why so few people actually have much in the way of working/living capital and get themselves into hand-to-mouth situations.

I know I'm being preachy. But you're young and this shit is dead serious. Get it right now and you'll be totally fine. But your perspective matters a lot. Don't bullshit yourself.

I'll be at a live in academy for eight months, i doubt they'll let me make a makeshift shop in a dorm area. I'm building credit for a house, that's it, not another car, not toys, a house. I don't have a credit card now, and I never will.

when the blue car is finished, it will be worth 13-15k to the right buyer. It's not a hack job car, it was done right and will be finishe'd right. WhI

[Vettezuki]

If you have a 20%+ down (which admittedly is kind of a lot in SoCal even at a very entry level house) and CHP gig your credit ain't gonna matter. I'm sure they have their on CU with juicy first time buyer programs where that kind of down or particularly high credit wouldn't be necessary.

Borrowing to finish a car to sell, where the sale price is higher than P+I is straight forward. That makes sense.

[Shaolin Crane]

If you have a 20%+ down (which admittedly is kind of a lot in SoCal even at a very entry level house) and CHP gig your credit ain't gonna matter. I'm sure they have their on CU with juicy first time buyer programs where that kind of down or particularly high credit wouldn't be necessary.

Borrowing to finish a car to sell, where the sale price is higher than P+I is straight forward. That makes sense.

Don't have 20% down, that's part of the problem. Don't need 2 mustangs, I have mine, and the other is an extra in my eyes, perfect for getting towards that 20% Credit matters, I want a bitchen rate and a bitchen house first time around. If I can get both why not? Revolving credit isn't bad, sure it costs money but I have paid 36 months loans in 12 months or less

Pros are running cars, more room for flipping cars again, more time for side jobs. No more stressing about putting away hundreds a month towards a car instead of putting away hundreds a month in savings. Seems pretty straight forward to me, once car sell, loan is wiped and i'm out ahead.

[enkeivette]

I'll be at a live in academy for eight months, i doubt they'll let me make a makeshift shop in a dorm area. I'm building credit for a house, that's it, not another car, not toys, a house. I don't have a credit card now, and I never will.

when the blue car is finished, it will be worth 13-15k to the right buyer. It's not a hack job car, it was done right and will be finishe'd right. WhI

Police academy movies are really goofy. Based on what Ive learned from those movies, you could probably get away with it ;)

[94cobra69ss396]

If you go to the CHP academy you will not have time to do anything other than study. You will be going non stop for the full 6 months.

[Shaolin Crane]

Exactly. Any off time I do have will be spent sleeping and working out.

[enkeivette]

If you go to the CHP academy you will not have time to do anything other than study. You will be going non stop for the full 6 months.

Nah, you'll have weekends off. My Dad used to come home on the weekends... although, I dont know how frequently youll want to make that 8 hour drive... especially if your car isnt running. Haha

[fiveohwblow]

I like stuff

[Shaolin Crane]

Nah, you'll have weekends off. My Dad used to come home on the weekends... although, I dont know how frequently youll want to make that 8 hour drive... especially if your car isnt running. Haha

While you might have "liberty" on the weekends i'll be focusing on the academy. Not cars.

[enkeivette]

While you might have "liberty" on the weekends i'll be focusing on the academy. Not cars.

Its spelled H-O-O-K-E-R-S.

[enkeivette]

I like stuff

Its spelled H-O-O-K-E-R-S. This is not a repeat post.

[enkeivette]

If you go to the CHP academy you will not have time to do anything other than study. You will be going non stop for the full 6 months.

Now bar study, THAT is full fucking time. 12-14 hours a day studying. No sick days, no weekends, no holidays, no date nights with the gf, not even 2 hours to watch the new Batman movie or even a movie at home. For 3-4 months, following 6 months of studying for the bar part-time in school, and then 4-5 months waiting for your results.

Also, probably a whole hell of a lot less fun than training to shoot, drive fast, and kick ass. With no guaranteed job on the other end, a competitive market in a shitty economy, and a fuck load of law school debt. What was I thinking again?

[enkeivette]

I hate to stroke your already huge ego Guy, but I think youll kick ass at the academy. You can already fight and drive well, thatll be a huge advantage. Ill bet a lot of people wont like you, ha.

[Vettezuki]

I hate to stroke your already huge ego Guy, but I think youll kick ass at the academy. You can already fight and drive well, thatll be a huge advantage. Ill bet a lot more people wont like you, ha.

Fixed.

[enkeivette]

Fixed.

Lmao. You are my hero Ben

[Shaolin Crane]

Now bar study, THAT is full fucking time. 12-14 hours a day studying. No sick days, no weekends, no holidays, no date nights with the gf, not even 2 hours to watch the new Batman movie or even a movie at home. For 3-4 months, following 6 months of studying for the bar part-time in school, and then 4-5 months waiting for your results.

Also, probably a whole hell of a lot less fun than training to shoot, drive fast, and kick ass. With no guaranteed job on the other end, a competitive market in a shitty economy, and a fuck load of law school debt. What was I thinking again?
Job guaranteed in cali? Not likely. Have you seen what the CHP academy is like? Sorry but no part of that looks enjoyable.
I hate to stroke your already huge ego Guy, but I think youll kick ass at the academy. You can already fight and drive well, thatll be a huge advantage. Ill bet a lot of people wont like you, ha.
lol Sensei made a comment "Can you try not to fuck anyone up the first day of the academy?"
Fixed.
:clapping:

[enkeivette]

Job guaranteed in cali? Not likely. Have you seen what the CHP academy is like? Sorry but no part of that looks enjoyable.

lol Sensei made a comment "Can you try not to fuck anyone up the first day of the academy?"

:clapping:

Oh Im sure it wont be easy, Im not trying to downplay it or even compare it. Cop training in Sac is no joke. I just got hung up on talking about bar study as a full time commitment, and that it had NO redeeming factors.

Cuz while your 'boot camp' will suck, and getting sprayed in the face with mace is no picnic, at least some of it will make you smile :)

[Shaolin Crane]

Oh Im sure it wont be easy, Im not trying to downplay it or even compare it. Cop training in Sac is no joke. I just got hung up on talking about bar study as a full time commitment, and that it had NO redeeming factors.

Cuz while your 'boot camp' will suck, and getting sprayed in the face with mace is no picnic, at least some of it will make you smile :)

Mace isn't too bad actually, getting stabbed in the face was no picnic :smack:
I'll admit I wanted to smile when some of the officers were screaming in my face "oh, do I intimidate you boy?!"

[94cobra69ss396]

Nah, you'll have weekends off. My Dad used to come home on the weekends... although, I dont know how frequently youll want to make that 8 hour drive... especially if your car isnt running. Haha

Phil used to come down one weekend a month but he just studied. Guy will do great if he get's there. I think the part Guy will have the hardest time with just like my brother did is all the written stuff which is why Phil was always studying. Granted, Phil was 10 years older when he went in than Guy will be.

[Vettezuki]

. . I just got hung up on talking about bar study as a full time commitment, and that it had NO redeeming factors.

The higher end of the pay scale and potential challenges are pretty intense. But it might take you another 10 years of breaking your balls before you really start to move up, another 10 years with good fortune, but by mid late 40s, you could be hauling in very serious scratch.

The thing that is crazy hard, but has excellent opportunities, massive portability, and will be demanded almost no matter what the economy does is becoming an MD. That's the track my sister is on and it's pretty much continuous hard study and work for about 10 years including residency and you can easily have significant six figure debt. But "even" nursing pays well and is highly demanded and will be for the foreseeable future. Get your NP/PA level and you can make six figures full time, or into the 90s just part time.

[enkeivette]

The higher end of the pay scale and potential challenges are pretty intense. But it might take you another 10 years of breaking your balls before you really start to move up, another 10 years with good fortune, but by mid late 40s, you could be hauling in very serious scratch.

The thing that is crazy hard, but has excellent opportunities, massive portability, and will be demanded almost no matter what the economy does is becoming an MD. That's the track my sister is on and it's pretty much continuous hard study and work for about 10 years including residency and you can easily have significant six figure debt. But "even" nursing pays well and is highly demanded and will be for the foreseeable future. Get your NP/PA level and you can make six figures full time, or into the 90s just part time.

Thanks Ben :)

I have more respect for doctors and nurses than anyone. Very noble profession. I doubt anything is more intense or competitive than medical school.

I could never do something in the medical field. Guts and poop and smells gross me out too much. If someone even coughs walking past me Ill breathe through my shirt.

[enkeivette]

Ron, is your brother RidesMotoX?

[94cobra69ss396]

No, Throttle Crazy on here.

[Shaolin Crane]

Phil used to come down one weekend a month but he just studied. Guy will do great if he get's there. I think the part Guy will have the hardest time with just like my brother did is all the written stuff which is why Phil was always studying. Granted, Phil was 10 years older when he went in than Guy will be.

Yeah, not so hot with the written stuff, hand me a baton and tell me to subdue a man in a red man suit and I'll do some amazing things.

[Shaolin Crane]

Thanks Ben :)

I have more respect for doctors and nurses than anyone. Very noble profession. I doubt anything is more intense or competitive than medical school.

I could never do something in the medical field. Guts and poop and smells gross me out too much. If someone even coughs walking past me Ill breathe through my shirt.

I'm cool with blood and gorry things, but if another kid pukes on me I might lose it.

[Shaolin Crane]

So there's a company that the LS/LT guys rave about over on the SS forums. They're called LPP and they make a Stainless Steel 1 7/8" with a 3" collector for 199 shipped. For the money they could fit like complete shit but i'd have enough to mod them to fit my way and still be out ahead of the 1300 that the Kooks cost. Ordering now, race car is comin back...
http://lpparts.com/store/page17.html

[enkeivette]

In case anyone was wondering:

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/daftpunk/aroundtheworld.html

[enkeivette]

So there's a company that the LS/LT guys rave about over on the SS forums. They're called LPP and they make a Stainless Steel 1 7/8" with a 3" collector for 199 shipped. For the money they could fit like complete shit but i'd have enough to mod them to fit my way and still be out ahead of the 1300 that the Kooks cost. Ordering now, race car is comin back...
http://lpparts.com/store/page17.html

I thought you got rid of that LQ motor?

[enkeivette]

OIC, youre using the came company, not the LS headers

[Shaolin Crane]

Very good Adam.

[enkeivette]

Very good Adam.

Thank you, Guy. :p

Whenever I say your name I think of the South Park Saddam Hussein. 'Aw, c'mon guy! You know no one can pound your ass like I can'

[Shaolin Crane]

So when you think of me, you have gay thoughts? Great...

[enkeivette]

So when you think of me, you have gay thoughts? Great...

So obvious, I expected more from you. Haha, just the first part 'Aw, come on Guy!' I put the second in there to make the reference more apparent, Guy!

[Shaolin Crane]

Don't expect too much, I don't watch South Park

[Vettezuki]

So when you think of me, you have gay thoughts? Great...

You're not special. Don't worry about it. . .

[Vettezuki]

On business in Nashville the last several days, returning tomorrow. What a great town.

[enkeivette]

On business in Nashville the last several days, returning tomorrow. What a great town.

Sarcasm? Or why so?

[Vettezuki]

Sarcasm? Or why so?

Seriously. It's modern. Pretty clean and safe. About as good as it gets for a wide variety of live music. Increasingly a foody town on top of that. Cost of living aint so bad.

[BADDASSC6]

I met a Tyrannosaurus rex bitch in Nashville.

[Shaolin Crane]

I had a soda after my late night workout. Apparently I'm still sensitive to caffein because I stared at the wall all night. I feel amazaring

[enkeivette]

I met a Tyrannosaurus rex bitch in Nashville.

:huh:

[BADDASSC6]

Back in 04 I was driving across the country to va for work. We stopped in Nashville because it was supposed to be a great city to party. One of my good high school buddies made the trip with me and we decide to go grab some drinks. We go to a club and this very good looking blonde girl was dancing on top of the speakers. Well, chris and I decide to get her a drink. When I walked up to her and she turned around and it became apparent that she had withered arms. Lame.

[fiveohwblow]

Seriously. It's modern. Pretty clean and safe. About as good as it gets for a wide variety of live music. Increasingly a foody town on top of that. Cost of living aint so bad.

Completely agree. LOVE that town.

[enkeivette]

Back in 04 I was driving across the country to va for work. We stopped in Nashville because it was supposed to be a great city to party. One of my good high school buddies made the trip with me and we decide to go grab some drinks. We go to a club and this very good looking blonde girl was dancing on top of the speakers. Well, chris and I decide to get her a drink. When I walked up to her and she turned around and it became apparent that she had withered arms. Lame.

Aw, poor girl :(

I saw this girl Fri night walking across the street in Brea, she had an obvious 'problem' where her hips would dip way too much with every stride. As if her legs were bowed or her hip joints were malformed. So I say "poor girl!" I felt bad for her...

Then as she walked past the view of my car I could see that she wasnt disabled, she just had 6" hooker heels on and she couldn't walk in them!! Dumb twat.

[Vettezuki]

Aw, poor girl :(

I saw this girl Fri night walking across the street in Brea, she had an obvious 'problem' where her hips would dip way too much with every stride. As if her legs were bowed or her hip joints were malformed. So I say "poor girl!" I felt bad for her...

Then as she walked past the view of my car I could see that she wasnt disabled, she just had 6" hooker heels on and she couldn't walk in them!! Dumb twat.

http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMy1lZmQ5ZGE2NzA0NDU2OGJl.png

[Shaolin Crane]

I took an 6" shit today.

[enkeivette]

So that means... that you can take at least 6 inches? :p

[Vettezuki]

One of my Japanese colleagues is fix'n to buy himself a Porsche GT3. Little jelly, but he is about 15 years ahead of me and has been paying his dues on the front lines.

[enkeivette]

AWD turbo jelly bean, I love it. Buy your car a power adder, itll make you feel better

[Shaolin Crane]

Not with 11-1 compression.

need 22lr local, anyone know where?

[enkeivette]

Not with 11-1 compression.

need 22lr local, anyone know where?

Nitrous. Headers.

[blackax]

Not with 11-1 compression.

need 22lr local, anyone know where?

Just don't run crazy boost and it will be fine

[enkeivette]

Just don't run crazy boost and it will be fine

He was considering a Magna Charger back in the day. I think it was...

[Vettezuki]

Just don't run crazy boost and it will be fine

I already have to run what is effectively 93 on the hotter days in summer. Headers with an appropriate retune would probably fix this and I could always just run 91 (i.e., no torco), but I don't think even with good headers and retune that I could run any boost really. Maybe 3lbs? But what's the point of that.

Probably I'll just do headers (maybe gucci rockers and lifters) and a retune. This would take me to 430WHP on an N/A 346ci and pump gas still passing smog. That's probably about as good as it's going to get. and in a car that is 3,100lbs full wet, plenty of of power for the street. My clutch and trans would still handle it, and as long as I don't get too sticky of street tires, the diff would still handle that. If I went with a boost engine, I'm not going to dick around, but decompress and go for an intercooled one atmosphere tuned for pump gas. that's going to be more like 550whp and then clutch would be "underpowered" and trans and diff would be ticking time bombs.

[enkeivette]

Nitrous. Or cry?

[Vettezuki]

Nitrous. Or cry?

Do I look like a cast member of "Fast N' Furious"?

[Shaolin Crane]

Do I look like a cast member of "Fast N' Furious"?

Yes.

[Vettezuki]

Yes.

:gtfo:

[blackax]

I already have to run what is effectively 93 on the hotter days in summer. Headers with an appropriate retune would probably fix this and I could always just run 91 (i.e., no torco), but I don't think even with good headers and retune that I could run any boost really. Maybe 3lbs? But what's the point of that.

Probably I'll just do headers (maybe gucci rockers and lifters) and a retune. This would take me to 430WHP on an N/A 346ci and pump gas still passing smog. That's probably about as good as it's going to get. and in a car that is 3,100lbs full wet, plenty of of power for the street. My clutch and trans would still handle it, and as long as I don't get too sticky of street tires, the diff would still handle that. If I went with a boost engine, I'm not going to dick around, but decompress and go for an intercooled one atmosphere tuned for pump gas. that's going to be more like 550whp and then clutch would be "underpowered" and trans and diff would be ticking time bombs.

First you would make way more then 550 with one bar. And why do you need so much Octane in a mostly stock LS1? People run 7 psi on stock stuff all day long with only 91. Hell I only run 91 with 10.5:1 and 5.5 psi

[Vettezuki]

First you would make way more then 550 with one bar. And why do you need so much Octane in a mostly stock LS1? People run 7 psi on stock stuff all day long with only 91. Hell I only run 91 with 10.5:1 and 5.5 psi

Cuz it's not mostly stock. They're heavily ported and decked 4.8L heads and a moderate cam (compression was advertised as 11:1, but maybe a little more, but with with stock manifolds so there is a fuck ton of back pressure, 3 psi measured at WOT. It's only if it gets hotter in the summer and I push, it pings a little. The 93~ is just for a safety margin and to maintain timing, it's not strictly necessary. And in many parts of the country 93 out of the pump is still very common, it's not really exotic.

The 550WHP on one bar intercooled on a H&C 346 is conservative/safe, but it wouldn't be a lot more. Who knows for sure unless it was done and dynoed.

I know for a fact with my exact current setup that I made 391 on a Mutang dyno. Getting it to breath on the back side would help a lot.

[enkeivette]

Guy, lol.

Ben, lol.

Blackax: His LS is about as stock as Sharon Stone is a virgin. Its H&C. And 15 lbs is a lot of boost on a street V8, even for a centri blower.

Also Ben, nitrous is no different than anything else. Its just a chemical supercharger. Cylinder pressure is cylinder pressure. If I ever run the Vette as a drag car, Id seriously consider nitrous for 3rd and 4th gear.

[enkeivette]

Also, its not like the movies. The car I drove with nitrous had a WOT setup, so you leave the switch on and it injects only at WOT.

[Vettezuki]

Guy, lol.

Ben, lol.

Blackax: His LS is about as stock as Sharon Stone is a virgin. Its H&C. And 15 lbs is a lot of boost on a street V8, even for a centri blower.

Also Ben, nitrous is no different than anything else. Its just a chemical supercharger. Cylinder pressure is cylinder pressure. If I ever run the Vette as a drag car, Id seriously consider nitrous for 3rd and 4th gear.

I'm not doing nitrous in a street car setup. I'm not maintaining shit with refills, etc., and not going ot have something that can run out independently of fuel. Car+fuel = done.

[enkeivette]

I'm not doing nitrous in a street car setup. I'm not maintaining shit with refills, etc., and not going ot have something that can run out independently of fuel. Car+fuel = done.

When nitrous runs out, the condition is overly rich. Safe for the engine. I <3 nitrous

[Vettezuki]

When nitrous runs out, the condition is overly rich. Safe for the engine. I <3 Nitrous

Does a blower run out?

Listen, ain't hat'n on nitrous, just ain't gonna do it. Frankly, more inclined to really refining the NA motor than even FI. That's the gentlemen's game and I'm nothing if not a fucking gentlemen.

[enkeivette]

Does a blower run out?

Listen, ain't hat'n on nitrous, just ain't gonna do it. Frankly, more inclined to really refining the NA motor than even FI. That's the gentlemen's game and I'm nothing if not a fucking gentlemen.

Haha

Hey... hey... ... .......nitrous.

[94cobra69ss396]

The Chevelle runs good on nitrous! Like Adam said, if you run out of nitrous you just end up running rich. I have two fuel pumps on the Chevelle, one for the engine and the other is for the nitrous system. The engine one is a Holley black pump that's rated at 130gph and the one for the nitrous system is a Holley red pump rated at 87gph. I'm using the factory 3/8 line for the black pump and ran a seperate 3/8 aluminum line for the red pump. When I wired up my nitrous system I used one toggle switch for the red pump and then another to arm the nitrous system. I have the power for the nitrous system from the red fuel pump switch so if I accidently arm the system without turning on it's fuel pump the system won't come on. That way I can't accidently inject nitrous without fuel. I also run a full throttle switch that is triggered by the carb linkage so as some as I go full throttle the nitrous system activates but some people use a button so they can activate it when they want.

[Vettezuki]

The Chevelle runs good on nitrous! Like Adam said, if you run out of nitrous you just end up running rich. I have two fuel pumps on the Chevelle, one for the engine and the other is for the nitrous system. The engine one is a Holley black pump that's rated at 130gph and the one for the nitrous system is a Holley red pump rated at 87gph. I'm using the factory 3/8 line for the black pump and ran a seperate 3/8 aluminum line for the red pump. When I wired up my nitrous system I used one toggle switch for the red pump and then another to arm the nitrous system. I have the power for the nitrous system from the red fuel pump switch so if I accidently arm the system without turning on it's fuel pump the system won't come on. That way I can't accidently inject nitrous without fuel. I also run a full throttle switch that is triggered by the carb linkage so as some as I go full throttle the nitrous system activates but some people use a button so they can activate it when they want.

Nitrous works, that's for sure. But you don't run it in your car you put heavy street miles on. That's got a blower yo!

[blackax]

Nitrous works, that's for sure. But you don't run it in your car you put heavy street miles on. That's got a blower yo!

But you could....(im for the blower option just felt like trolling you ben)

[94cobra69ss396]

Nitrous works, that's for sure. But you don't run it in your car you put heavy street miles on. That's got a blower yo!

That is correct. However, if you are happy with the way your engine performs now on the street but want it to be faster in the quarter mile you could add a nitrous system for around $500 and pick up a full second. With a 150 shot of nitrous, a ten pound bottle and mid to high 10 second runs you could get around 8 passes on a bottle. Depending on where you fill it a bottle fill cost around $35.

[enkeivette]

And for regular street use a bottle usually lasts about 2 months in my uncles car.

Face it Ben, you are now a nitrous man... its happened... the only thing left for you to do is buy the bottle :p

[Vettezuki]

No.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18dttruxz4yvojpg/ku-medium.jpg

[enkeivette]

No.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18dttruxz4yvojpg/ku-medium.jpg

Lol. I didnt say you had to get a boyfriend too

[enkeivette]

I remember this kid came on CF a few years back, with a bone stock smog C3. He asked, instead of wasting money on intake and exhaust, wouldnt it make more sense just to buy a nitrous kit?

The fiscal racer.

[Vettezuki]

I remember this kid came on CF a few years back, with a bone stock smog C3. He asked, instead of wasting money on intake and exhaust, wouldnt it make more sense just to buy a nitrous kit?

The fiscal racer.

I'm at the spend zero dollars or don't fuck around stage of life. . . boy racer. :smack:

[enkeivette]

I'm at the spend zero dollars or don't fuck around stage of life. . . boy racer. :smack:

You and me both buddy. Ive sent out hundreds of targeted resumes, had 6 interviews, and nada. Im about ready to kick this solo thing into high gear.

[enkeivette]

One was Thursday though, so cross your fingers for me!

[94cobra69ss396]

Good luck!

[enkeivette]

Thanks Ron!

[Vettezuki]

Remember who the real enemy is.

http://movies.yahoo.com/video/hunger-games-catching-fire-trailer-021017530.html

[enkeivette]

The government. Id hate to see your face every year as you do your taxes. :leaving:

Looks cool btw!

[Vettezuki]

The government. Id hate to see your face every year as you do your taxes. :leaving:

Looks cool btw!

I automate that process and keep it as far out of my mind as possible. As a business owner, some of the extra taxes get really fucking stupid. My personal favorite is the "business property" tax. Let's say you've invested $100k in fixtures, machines, whatever. CA levies a 1% tax on that. Why? Because they can. Simple takings. No value return. You kill yourself to build your business and provide something to the public, and the mafia (aka, government) just helps themselves to whatever they want. My brother in his business recently discovered one I didn't even know about. The labor tax. Yes labor tax. If he builds something on spec for someone (he designs and fabricates furniture and stuff) he has to withhold basically a sales tax on his labor.

[Ryridesmotox]

I automate that process and keep it as far out of my mind as possible. As a business owner, some of the extra taxes get really fucking stupid. My personal favorite is the "business property" tax. Let's say you've invested $100k in fixtures, machines, whatever. CA levies a 1% tax on that. Why? Because they can. Simple takings. No value return. You kill yourself to build your business and provide something to the public, and the mafia (aka, government) just helps themselves to whatever they want. My brother in his business recently discovered one I didn't even know about. The labor tax. Yes labor tax. If he builds something on spec for someone (he designs and fabricates furniture and stuff) he has to withhold basically a sales tax on his labor.

There needs to be a flat tax (some call it fair tax) across the board... do away with the IRS and we can all pay the same, people, coprorations large and small, no loopholes, no favors, just a fair shot across the board. Seems fair to me anyways. Start at like 17% maybe, and imprison all of the politicians in D.C. for Treason and pejury becuase they all SWORE an oath to the constitution and they ALL (well 99% of them) would rather line their pockets by sending GOV contracts to friends and family (conflict of interest anyone) rather than SERVE the country.

Sorry in a bad mood today. gotta vent real quick to the guys. I'm sure ALL of you have come across this at some point so you may understand... My fiancee an I are driving... she stops in the middle of a lane to turn left, no blinker, just stops, "I say hey babe, blinker? I don't want some idiot to hit us" and then she pulls into a spot where some IDIOT has parked on the line, and their car is just completely destroyed on that side, literally they must have hit a pole and just drug their car along it until they passed completely. I said, in a semi joking manner, "babe can you move one spot over so that person doesn't bash our car with their door cuz clearly they don't give fuck about thier piece of shit vehicle" (the very next spot over was open). And it turns into her freaking out and demanding that I apologize for saying something SO effed up to her that it almost made her cry. REALLY?!?!?!? wtf? so I apologize cuz its not worth it. But come on, I'm trying to help her be a better driver and take into account how HORRIBLE the average motorist is at operating their vehicle, and be safe WITH OUR KID IN THE CAR so no terrible accidents befall her when I am not in the car. I guess I really am an asshat or something. /vent

thanks for listening, though you really don't have a choice.

[enkeivette]

You probably said it in a way that made her feel stupid. Not that you said it in a bad way necessarily. No one likes side seat driving, and she is probably a bit overly sensitive as well. She needs to work on not taking it personally, and you should either offer to drive or bite your tongue.

Flat tax, seems fair. But, dont you think a business, like Apple, eating a larger piece of the pie, should pay more of a tip/ tax?

I think if we charged Billy Joe the same amount of tax that we charge Exxon Mobil, the economy would suffer.

[Ryridesmotox]

You probably said it in a way that made her feel stupid. Not that you said it in a bad way necessarily. No one likes side seat driving, and she is probably a bit overly sensitive as well. She needs to work on not taking it personally, and you should either offer to drive or bite your tongue.

Flat tax, seems fair. But, dont you think a business, like Apple, eating a larger piece of the pie, should pay more of a tip/ tax?

I think if we charged Billy Joe the same amount of tax that we charge Exxon Mobil, the economy would suffer.

The thing is though, that it seems like the large corporations and their high level emploees seem to be able to find some kind of shleter to get around taxes. I doubt Apple pays more than 17%. Though, I'm not sure what they do pay, is that even public record? I'm not really sure to be honest. It seems like they have charitable ways to get around it. For example, I remember a few months ago everyone was tripping about how Obama was paying like 14% (can't remember exactly) in taxes... really? come on, I pay in the upper 20%. How is a guy making 5x what I make paying less than me? That seems REAL fair. There really isn't a good solution here I don't think. It's kind of like do the least jacked up thing possible.

[BADDASSC6]

You probably said it in a way that made her feel stupid. Not that you said it in a bad way necessarily. No one likes side seat driving, and she is probably a bit overly sensitive as well. She needs to work on not taking it personally, and you should either offer to drive or bite your tongue.

Flat tax, seems fair. But, dont you think a business, like Apple, eating a larger piece of the pie, should pay more of a tip/ tax?

I think if we charged Billy Joe the same amount of tax that we charge Exxon Mobil, the economy would suffer.

Corporations don't pay taxes they pay tax lawyers to enure they don't have to pay taxes. I could do my taxes myself for free or pay H & R block $100 to get my taxes done. I choose to pay my CPA a fuck whack to do my taxes, but my returns are fucking awesome. I pay a lot in taxes, but not percentage wise.

[enkeivette]

Lol, they pay lawyers who know every loop hole in the book to save probably millions in taxes. But they are still pay millions in taxes, just a lot less than they would.

[enkeivette]

The thing is though, that it seems like the large corporations and their high level emploees seem to be able to find some kind of shleter to get around taxes. I doubt Apple pays more than 17%. Though, I'm not sure what they do pay, is that even public record? I'm not really sure to be honest. It seems like they have charitable ways to get around it. For example, I remember a few months ago everyone was tripping about how Obama was paying like 14% (can't remember exactly) in taxes... really? come on, I pay in the upper 20%. How is a guy making 5x what I make paying less than me? That seems REAL fair. There really isn't a good solution here I don't think. It's kind of like do the least jacked up thing possible.

Ya, its not fair. The complexity of the tax code is unjust, but its not going to help the governments income to make it easier for people.

[Vettezuki]

Corporations don't pay taxes they pay tax lawyers to enure they don't have to pay taxes. I could do my taxes myself for free or pay H & R block $100 to get my taxes done. I choose to pay my CPA a fuck whack to do my taxes, but my returns are fucking awesome. I pay a lot in taxes, but not percentage wise.

Private corporations DO pay net taxes if they have net profit. Unless they're a start up they need net profit if they're going to attract investment capital or commercial loans. How much they pay varies of course, and gets weird in the cases of corporations who get subsidies. The US technically has one of the highest corporate tax rates.

OTOH, nobody who works for government actually pays anything in taxes. :D

[Vettezuki]

Flat tax, seems fair. But, dont you think a business, like Apple, eating a larger piece of the pie, should pay more of a tip/ tax?


What pie is Apple eating exactly?

They are a net benefactor to society. A great giver. An engine of progress. A base for civilization and society. Apple never took a thing from me. The only thing that pisses me off about Apple is they are notorious patent trolls. Fuck them for that. Otherwise, eternal peace and light upon them. They don't owe me shit.

[Shaolin Crane]

What pie is Apple eating exactly?

They are a net benefactor to society. A great giver. An engine of progress. A base for civilization and society. Apple never took a thing from me. The only thing that pisses me off about Apple is they are notorious patent trolls. Fuck them for that. Otherwise, eternal peace and light upon them. They don't owe me shit.

Apple pie?

[enkeivette]

Apple pie?

Haha

The pie thats in all of our wallets.

[Vettezuki]

Haha

The pie thats in all of our wallets.

Their existence is a benefit, not a cost to everyone. They trade what they make for what's in you wallet and don't owe anything extra for doing a damn fine job of making what people actually want. Don't want it, don't buy it. Try that with your taxes.

[enkeivette]

Their existence is a benefit, not a cost to everyone. They trade what they make for what's in you wallet and don't owe anything extra for doing a damn fine job of making what people actually want. Don't want it, don't buy it. Try that with your taxes.

Im on your side breh. Just making an analogy. The pie is the economy, and the government is the waitress insisting on a tip. The more pie you eat, the more tip she expects.

[Vettezuki]

Im on your side breh. Just making an analogy. The pie is the economy, and the government is the waitress insisting on a tip. The more pie you eat, the more tip she expects.

She doesn't deserve a bigger tip! She's just been standing there bitching the whole time.

What I'm balking at is the "fixed pie fallacy". Though no one has stated it explicitly that's what I'm feel'n is being hinted towards.

[enkeivette]

She doesn't deserve a bigger tip! She's just been standing there bitching the whole time.

What I'm balking at is the "fixed pie fallacy". Though no one has stated it explicitly that's what I'm feel'n is being hinted towards.

Actually she's taunting you with a prison jumpsuit.

[Vettezuki]

Actually she's taunting you with a prison jumpsuit.

She starts with the guilt trips before going to the threats.

[enkeivette]

What a cunt. Haha

[Shaolin Crane]

All women.

[enkeivette]

All women.

When youre 23, ya. Itll get better.

[Vettezuki]

When youre 23, ya. Itll get better.

That's still adolescent territory (guys are still total idiots in that range too). Around 30 is a big change.

[fiveohwblow]

That's still adolescent territory (guys are still total idiots in that range too). Around 30 is a big change.

Truth

[enkeivette]

Its probably because girls that are worthwhile in that age bracket are dating older guys, the ones willing to date guys their own age are immature.

[enkeivette]

I heart road vengeance

[Vettezuki]

Here ya go Adam. Can you handle it?

Riddick - Debut Trailer - YouTube

[Shaolin Crane]

That's still adolescent territory (guys are still total idiots in that range too). Around 30 is a big change.

All women, 19, 29, 39 all of dem. First hand.

FTR, not 23.

[Shaolin Crane]

Oh hai
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/IMG_20130722_220521_647.jpg

[enkeivette]

Here ya go Adam. Can you handle it?

Riddick - Debut Trailer - YouTube

Hahahaha :) Ive seen it. I was a fan back when Pitch Black was a direct to VHS, B movie. The sequels started to get kind weird, with strange aliens who have old English accents. Hopefully this one is more normal.

[Vettezuki]

All women, 19, 29, 39 all of dem. First hand.

FTR, not 23.

Nonsense.

[Vettezuki]

Hahahaha :) Ive seen it. I was a fan back when Pitch Black was a direct to VHS, B movie. The sequels started to get kind weird, with strange aliens who have old English accents. Hopefully this one is more normal.

Never saw "Pitch Black". Kind of liked "The Chronicles of Riddick."

You keep what you kill!

[94cobra69ss396]

Oh hai
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/IMG_20130722_220521_647.jpg

I'm very jealous! :drool2:

[Shaolin Crane]

Nonsense.

SRS, tried broad age range. All crazy.

[enkeivette]

Never saw "Pitch Black". Kind of liked "The Chronicles of Riddick."

You keep what you kill!

The Chronicles was the sequel to pitch black, itll make more sense if you watch pitch black.

[fiveohwblow]

The Chronicles was the sequel to pitch black, itll make more sense if you watch pitch black.

I love the series and think its some of Vin's best work. I'm excited to see riddick. What's confusing to me, is this before or after chronicles? The trailer looked like a nechromonger (sp) was firing at riddick...

[Shaolin Crane]

Just got back from pacific engine.

[enkeivette]

I love the series and think its some of Vin's best work. I'm excited to see riddick. What's confusing to me, is this before or after chronicles? The trailer looked like a nechromonger (sp) was firing at riddick...

I dunno

[enkeivette]

Just got back from pacific engine.

Is that what that Ford racing thing was? New block?

[Vettezuki]

SRS, tried broad age range. All crazy.

That's because only the crazy ones are interested in you.

[Vettezuki]

I love the series and think its some of Vin's best work. I'm excited to see riddick. What's confusing to me, is this before or after chronicles? The trailer looked like a nechromonger (sp) was firing at riddick...

I'm guessing before because at the end of Chronicles he's like the big cheese.

[fiveohwblow]

I'm guessing before because at the end of Chronicles he's like the big cheese.

Kind of what I was thinking as well.

[94cobra69ss396]

Is that what that Ford racing thing was? New block?

Yes, he picked up a Ford Racing Boss block last night. It's so nice! The bad news is that the forged crank he thought he had to put in it is a cast crank.

[Shaolin Crane]

That's because only the crazy ones are interested in you.

This man might be onto something

[enkeivette]

This man might be onto something

x2.

Its probably because girls that are worthwhile in that age bracket are dating older guys, the ones willing to date guys their own age are immature.

[Shaolin Crane]

Who wants to see some porn?

[fiveohwblow]

Who wants to see some porn?

Not sure how to answer this...