Derailers Anonymous

[94cobra69ss396]

Picture?

[Shaolin Crane]

http://www.atiracing.com/products/dampers/ATI-Damper-Parts-1000.jpg

[94cobra69ss396]

So do you just remove the inertia weight and then it fits back together?

[Shaolin Crane]

yeah. But the outer shell has to come off to get to the intertia weight bolts.

[Shaolin Crane]

so after reading ATI's website there is a special Torx bit to use with their fasteners. I found out they also use loctite and its safe to heat the hub so i'll try that after picking up the hardened Torx bit.

[Shaolin Crane]

What are y'all doin friday night?
http://www.marqueelasvegas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/8-30NC.jpg

[enkeivette]

What's that?

[enkeivette]

The fact that I was able to break traction at the 1000' mark was a bonus. Badass, sure. Still would be if I had a place to put my lift to fix it, since I don't, just another paper weight.


Proof that Guy thinks breaking traction is cool. Which means that he can enjoy power beyond purpose. Which means that he loves my Vette.

[Shaolin Crane]

Proof that Guy thinks breaking traction is cool. Which means that he can enjoy power beyond purpose. Which means that he loves my Vette.

Do it and tell me how awesome it is when you start going towards the wall at over 100mph. Not the business. Power, awesome, almost wrecking, not.

Besides, I should be making as much power as you are soon.

[enkeivette]

Do it and tell me how awesome it is when you start going towards the wall at over 100mph. Not the business. Power, awesome, almost wrecking, not.

Besides, I should be making as much power as you are soon.

Aw, I'm sorry, then your car won't be 'balanced' and everyone will start dissing you. :rolleyes:

I raced a Charger on the freeway. I wasn't going to but he wouldn't leave me alone. So I put it in 3rd to give him a quick blast, but I lost traction, haha. Eek.

[Vettezuki]

Aw, I'm sorry, then your car won't be 'balanced' and everyone will start dissing you. :rolleyes:

I raced a Charger on the freeway. I wasn't going to but he wouldn't leave me alone. So I put it in 3rd to give him a quick blast, but I lost traction, haha. Eek.

Have you considered getting traction. :huh:

[Shaolin Crane]

Aw, I'm sorry, then your car won't be 'balanced' and everyone will start dissing you. :rolleyes:

I raced a Charger on the freeway. I wasn't going to but he wouldn't leave me alone. So I put it in 3rd to give him a quick blast, but I lost traction, haha. Eek.

Difference, no sandy vag, will race with slicks.

[fiveohwblow]

What are y'all doin friday night?
http://www.marqueelasvegas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/8-30NC.jpg

Fuck. Yes.

[enkeivette]

Have you considered getting traction. :huh:

For the record I do have z rated 275 tires, which I run everyday at 17 psi.

I will buy some slicks when I have some more discretionary income. I figure I put so few miles on it I don't give a shit. I'll just daily drive it with slicks.

[Shaolin Crane]

For the record I do have z rated 275 tires, which I run everyday at 17 psi.

I will buy some slicks when I have some more discretionary income. I figure I put so few miles on it I don't give a shit. I'll just daily drive it with slicks.

Which will accomplish nothing BTW. Better off leaving your street tires.

[Vettezuki]

For the record I do have z rated 275 tires, which I run everyday at 17 psi.

I will buy some slicks when I have some more discretionary income. I figure I put so few miles on it I don't give a shit. I'll just daily drive it with slicks.

NT01 is probably among your best high performance street tires as far as I can tell.

[enkeivette]

Which will accomplish nothing BTW. Better off leaving your street tires.

Huh?

[Shaolin Crane]

driving around on slicks isn't going to help you with traction on the street.

[enkeivette]

You know what I mean, not track tires but those super super sticky street ones. With like 100 tread wear

[Shaolin Crane]

yeah those would be A6's, NT01's, etc.

[enkeivette]

yeah those would be A6's, NT01's, etc.

Ya, thats what I meant. Oops

[Shaolin Crane]

Finally got the damper apart. Had to put it in the mill. Once the bolts were off it was a snap to take apart, it's really a bad ass piece, definitely a one time purchase thing.

[Vettezuki]

http://img8.joyreactor.com/pics/post/funny-pictures-auto-837548.jpeg

[Shaolin Crane]

Cause I got snipped, thats why.

[enkeivette]

Cause I got snipped, thats why.

If your wife did get pregnant, would you believe that your body repaired itself. Or would you leave her for sure? If she sounded completely honest and sweet and you had absolutely no other reason to doubt her.

[Shaolin Crane]

My doctor assured me I was probably already steryl to begin with with all the scar tissue down there, then the way he had to do the operation as a result he assured me it can never be reversed. 7 days after I was confirmed completely done, not even dead sperm, nothing completely seed free.

So no, I wouldn't believe her. Plus i'll never have a wife so we can get that piece out of the way too. Long lesson learned, all women are liars and cheaters. If I do get a call i'm gonna laugh and tell her to check the other wangs that traversed the area.

[Vettezuki]

. . Long lesson learned, all women are liars and cheaters. . .

Just had my 17th anniversary. My wife is the rock in my life. I'm guessing Amy is for Ron, and so on. All women aren't liars and cheaters anymore than all men are.

[Shaolin Crane]

You're right. All people are liars and cheaters, special exclusions apply. No wife for me thanks, Huge garage, small house and a handfull of cars will do just fine.

[enkeivette]

Just had my 17th anniversary. My wife is the rock in my life. I'm guessing Amy is for Ron, and so on. All women aren't liars and cheaters anymore than all men are.

Congrats!! Your wife does seem awesome

[enkeivette]

You're right. All people are liars and cheaters, special exclusions apply. No wife for me thanks, Huge garage, small house and a handfull of cars will do just fine.

You were stabbed. It's going to take a long time for that scar to fade enough for you to forget about it. And until it does, everyday you stroll through the hood you will expect to get stabbed again.

Even when you meet an awesome girl you will be skeptical and cautious.

And hopefully, you will find one who will chip away at the wall you've put up, and who will make you realize that the awesome thing you thought you had before... wasn't so awesome.

[blackax]

I think guy needs a little pussy in his life.. So here you go.

http://i.imgur.com/oQxeVws.jpg

[Shaolin Crane]

You were stabbed. It's going to take a long time for that scar to fade enough for you to forget about it. And until it does, everyday you stroll through the hood you will expect to get stabbed again.

Even when you meet an awesome girl you will be skeptical and cautious.

And hopefully, you will find one who will chip away at the wall you've put up, and who will make you realize that the awesome thing you thought you had before... wasn't so awesome.

I've been stabbed 3 times(once was my fault though), for what it's worth. Martial artists will always expect something to happen, that road has been paved.

They're all awesome, in their own ways but I'll never forget this saying, for everything.

"Never rely on someone else for anything, for even your shadow leaves you when the darkness comes"
I actually don't have much of a wall anymore, I just don't accept that any of them are permanent chapters, just temporary distractions

[Shaolin Crane]

I think guy needs a little pussy in his life.. So here you go.

http://i.imgur.com/oQxeVws.jpg

http://www.p0lecat.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1129&g2_serialNumber=1

[enkeivette]

Ug, got a ticket. Have to pay the road tax again... unless I fight it, which might be difficult with the big boy job.

Cops who catch murderers and rapists, good guys. But cops who give tickets for going 5mph over, and claim it was 10... heroes? Mmm, nope.

[Vettezuki]

Ug, got a ticket. Have to pay the road tax again... unless I fight it, which might be difficult with the big boy job.

Cops who catch murderers and rapists, good guys. But cops who give tickets for going 5mph over, and claim it was 10... heroes? Mmm, nope.

That fat pension ain't gonna pay for itself pumpkin.

[Shaolin Crane]

Ug, got a ticket. Have to pay the road tax again... unless I fight it, which might be difficult with the big boy job.

Cops who catch murderers and rapists, good guys. But cops who give tickets for going 5mph over, and claim it was 10... heroes? Mmm, nope.

Those are the same cops that catch the rapists and molester by pulling people over for going over even by 5mph and write you the ticket because of the oath the swore to and wouldn't risk their job for anything with the amount of work it takes to get a badge.

[Vettezuki]

Those are the same cops that catch the rapists and molester by pulling people over for going over even by 5mph and write you the ticket because of the oath the swore to and wouldn't risk their job for anything with the amount of work it takes to get a badge.

That doesn't make any sense at all.

[enkeivette]

Those are the same cops that catch the rapists and molester by pulling people over for going over even by 5mph and write you the ticket because of the oath the swore to and wouldn't risk their job for anything with the amount of work it takes to get a badge.

What the fuck? Cops let me go all the time. And for pulling someone over for doing 50 in a 45? Fuck him, he should be ashamed of himself. If you plan to fuck honest people over who are not being reckless, fuck you too. I'll give you this guys contact info, you can jerk each-other off.

[Shaolin Crane]

That doesn't make any sense at all.

How does that not make any sense? They're still cops, they still have a target on their forehead every day. Most busts are made off simple speeding tickets, vehicle infractions and the like. He wrote a ticket cause that's his job, just cause other cops let you off doesn't mean he will. Just like the legal defense of "well other people do it too" doesn't hold up worth a shit.

I don't plan on "fucking" people over, I do however intend to preform my job to the best extent possible. If me swearing to an oath and me holding true to my word ruffles peoples panties then y'all can fuck yourselves.

[Vettezuki]

How does that not make any sense? They're still cops, they still have a target on their forehead every day. Most busts are made off simple speeding tickets, vehicle infractions and the like. He wrote a ticket cause that's his job, just cause other cops let you off doesn't mean he will. Just like the legal defense of "well other people do it too" doesn't hold up worth a shit.

I don't plan on "fucking" people over, I do however intend to preform my job to the best extent possible. If me swearing to an oath and me holding true to my word ruffles peoples panties then y'all can fuck yourselves.

Being a cop isn't even in the top 10 of most dangerous jobs.

Speed limits are ostensibly about public safety. When cops get dangerous drivers off the road, clear roads, investigate real crime, etc., good. The rest is bullshit.

Cops, and all public servants for that matter need to be put in their place; servants, accountable for the production of public goods, that's it.

[enkeivette]

How does that not make any sense? They're still cops, they still have a target on their forehead every day. Most busts are made off simple speeding tickets, vehicle infractions and the like. He wrote a ticket cause that's his job, just cause other cops let you off doesn't mean he will. Just like the legal defense of "well other people do it too" doesn't hold up worth a shit.

I don't plan on "fucking" people over, I do however intend to preform my job to the best extent possible. If me swearing to an oath and me holding true to my word ruffles peoples panties then y'all can fuck yourselves.

I didnt understand what you wrote, neither did Ben, neither does my girlfriend. Sorry buddy, youre on the outs.

Do good Guy, catch bad guys. Dont fuck over good guys. Protect and serve, dont annoy and harass. The end.

[enkeivette]

I think guy needs a little pussy in his life.. So here you go.

http://i.imgur.com/oQxeVws.jpg

It's already wet too.

[enkeivette]

http://www.p0lecat.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1129&g2_serialNumber=1

That's awful that someone would take the time to do that.

[fiveohwblow]

That's awful that someone would take the time to do that.

You can't be serious

[Shaolin Crane]

Being a cop isn't even in the top 10 of most dangerous jobs.

Speed limits are ostensibly about public safety. When cops get dangerous drivers off the road, clear roads, investigate real crime, etc., good. The rest is bullshit.

Cops, and all public servants for that matter need to be put in their place; servants, accountable for the production of public goods, that's it.

That's legislative's job, until that happens, he's just doing his job. Just like a construction worker, banker etc.

I wasn't aware that being LEO wasn't dangerous, I'll make sure I tell that to all my buddies on patrol in Lenox, Watts and Inglewood.

[Vettezuki]

. . . he's just doing his job.

Befehl ist Befehl.

You should work on your German. It's the appropriate language for this line of thinking.

But the reality is LEO have discretion. They let off other officers off all the time. (Ask Nate) Hell even just applicants driving like total idiots get it relatively easy. (Ask yourself.) Meanwhile, the working man, the tax base from which they draw their salaries, not so much. (Ask anyone who is not a cop or closely affiliated. Like Adam, or me.)

They are NOT under legal obligation to site everything they observe. Show me the legislated code of which you seem fond. It should take you some time. Cuz it doesn't exist. Though to be fair, cops can be remarkably ignorant of even basic law and broad concepts, let alone line by line code.

I wasn't aware that being LEO wasn't dangerous, I'll make sure I tell that to all my buddies on patrol in Lenox, Watts and Inglewood.

I said it wasn't in the Top 10. Because it isn't.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics' National Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries shows that there were a total of 4,383 fatal injuries on the job in the U.S. in 2012, down from 4,693 in 2011. The data also tell us what are the most dangerous professions in America. The top spot goes to logging workers, who lost their lives at a rate of 127.8 per 100,000 full-time workers. Here are the 10 deadliest jobs of all.


1. Logging workers
2. Fishers and related fishing workers
3. Aircraft pilot and flight engineers
4. Roofers
5. Structural iron and steel workers
6. Refuse and recyclable material collectors
7. Electrical power-line installers and repairers
8. Drivers/sales workers and truck drivers
9. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers
10. Construction laborers

[enkeivette]

That's legislative's job, until that happens, he's just doing his job. Just like a construction worker, banker etc.

I wasn't aware that being LEO wasn't dangerous, I'll make sure I tell that to all my buddies on patrol in Lenox, Watts and Inglewood.

If you have buddies who are cops in LA, you know they dont waste their time with bullshit, because they have real police work to do. LA cops and NY cops are the only ones Ive found who I like.

If you are CHP and a guy flys by you at 71 on the radar, technically he is breaking the maximum speed law. So if you rely exclusively on legislation to make your decision, that's your cut off point. Actually 70.1. But obviously, cops don't do that. So it is up to you where you draw the line.

The basis for all laws is, and well... should be, that we live in a free country, but our freedoms cease when they begin to infringe upon the freedoms of others. Thus, if you drive recklessly, you endanger other drivers, infringing upon their freedom to be safe on the road. If you felt that someone is being reckless, in the SPIRIT of the law, yes, it would be your duty to uphold it.

On the other hand, if you give someone a ticket for going 71 mph. You are a fucking douchebag, and I'll bet everyone on this forum including Rons brother would agree.

[94cobra69ss396]

Most of the CHP officers have a set speed above the speed limit that they allow before they will write you a speeding ticket. Assuming you are not driving like an ass. For my brother's department that seems to be about 80. If you're under that they won't bother with you but above that or again if you're driving like an ass then they'll write you up. On the freeway I will usually do about 5 mph above the posted speed limit but on city streets I do the speed limit.

[enkeivette]

You can't be serious

Yup. You prob cant tell from this forum, but Im actually a pretty nice guy. A dead animal on the side of the road is triste.

[enkeivette]

Most of the CHP officers have a set speed above the speed limit that they allow before they will write you a speeding ticket. Assuming you are not driving like an ass. For my brother's department that seems to be about 80. If you're under that they won't bother with you but above that or again if you're driving like an ass then they'll write you up. On the freeway I will usually do about 5 mph above the posted speed limit but on city streets I do the speed limit.

Well lets hope you dont drive by Guy or the douchebag cop I drove past yesterday.

Btw, I drive 4mph above the speed limit on the freeway, because the maximum speed law is more strict than the city speed limit.

[enkeivette]

I've never been pulled over by the CHP either, and I usually cruise in the Vette at just under 80 so it doesnt bog. The four times Ive been ticketed it has been by a city cop, in a nice area (probably because they dont have any real work to do). And for something stupid, that I didnt even realize until they explained it to me.

One got me as I was accelerating through a yellow.

The next one claimed I crossed over a right turn only line before turning right.

The next gave me a ticket for not treating a school bus like a stop sign, when it was parked on the other side of a solid double yellow line, on a mountain road, with no schools or children present, and NO FUCKING SIDEWALK on the mountain road for children to cross. Just a road barrier.

And yesterday, for accelerating to merge as a lane ended. Doing 50 in a 45.

I do some reckless shit, no doubt, but Ive never been ticketed for it. Ive only been ticketed for stupid shit, by chubby rich city cops with nothing better to do. And Im sure it will happen again in 3-4 years, and I wont realize why until Im pulled over. Ya, justice.

[enkeivette]

They are NOT under legal obligation to site everything they observe. Show me the legislated code of which you seem fond. It should take you some time. Cuz it doesn't exist.

And actually, the law under which I was cited, the city speed limit and not the freeway maximum speed, does not state that you are in violation for driving faster than the posted limit. It says you are in violation for driving at a speed faster than is reasonable for the conditions. VC 22350 I think. So it was ENTIRELY within that cops discretion. No pointing the finger at legislation here, the law itself is subjective.

[fiveohwblow]

Yup. You prob cant tell from this forum, but Im actually a pretty nice guy. A dead animal on the side of the road is triste.

There's definitely a larger argument at play here but I am a little surprised by this so I can't let it go... Are you to assume the same person who killed it made the sign? If so I can see your point. Otherwise, I assume most people including yourself don't stop to make flapjacks of road kill every time. It boils down to different humor. A dead cat already exists. You don't want to touch it, neither do I. Someone makes a sign in jest, I laugh and go about my business. I don't find it terrible one iota.

[enkeivette]

There's definitely a larger argument at play here but I am a little surprised by this so I can't let it go... Are you to assume the same person who killed it made the sign? If so I can see your point. Otherwise, I assume most people including yourself don't stop to make flapjacks of road kill every time. It boils down to different humor. A dead cat already exists. You don't want to touch it, neither do I. Someone makes a sign in jest, I laugh and go about my business. I don't find it terrible one iota.

Its funny no doubt. But so are dead baby jokes. Doesnt mean it isnt sad.

[Shaolin Crane]

Befehl ist Befehl.

You should work on your German. It's the appropriate language for this line of thinking.

But the reality is LEO have discretion. They let off other officers off all the time. (Ask Nate) Hell even just applicants driving like total idiots get it relatively easy. (Ask yourself.) Meanwhile, the working man, the tax base from which they draw their salaries, not so much. (Ask anyone who is not a cop or closely affiliated. Like Adam, or me.)

They are NOT under legal obligation to site everything they observe. Show me the legislated code of which you seem fond. It should take you some time. Cuz it doesn't exist. Though to be fair, cops can be remarkably ignorant of even basic law and broad concepts, let alone line by line code.



I said it wasn't in the Top 10. Because it isn't.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics' National Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries shows that there were a total of 4,383 fatal injuries on the job in the U.S. in 2012, down from 4,693 in 2011. The data also tell us what are the most dangerous professions in America. The top spot goes to logging workers, who lost their lives at a rate of 127.8 per 100,000 full-time workers. Here are the 10 deadliest jobs of all.


1. Logging workers
2. Fishers and related fishing workers
3. Aircraft pilot and flight engineers
4. Roofers
5. Structural iron and steel workers
6. Refuse and recyclable material collectors
7. Electrical power-line installers and repairers
8. Drivers/sales workers and truck drivers
9. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers
10. Construction laborers

I get it, I've been let off before, Nate also hasn't been let off by other officers. I also said legislative, not code. Officer A gets told by his CO that he is not allowed to let anyone off with a warning, so he does that. Not gonna fault him for being an officer where they require that sort of thing.

[Shaolin Crane]

Its funny no doubt. But so are dead baby jokes. Doesnt mean it isnt sad.

Jokes are funny because they're offensive. Also no one crys when's they see rats get run over, why are cats different?

[Vettezuki]

. . . Ya, justice.

Yeah . . . I think one area of accessible improvement, since most cities are incorporated entities is to decouple public services from the municipalities. The physical structures would remain assets of the municipalities, but staffing would all be done essentially on a contract basis with private firms that could be regularly evaluated for performance and cost in something more like a competitive market. As it is, the entitlements and incentives are pretty stupid.

[blackax]

Jokes are funny because they're offensive. Also no one crys when's they see rats get run over, why are cats different?

I don't want to kill anything, cat/dog/rat. But I still find the picture funny as hell.

I think guy has used that image before when I was jesting him with other cute cat photos. sO i'm going to call repost on you guy.

[Vettezuki]

Jokes are funny because they're offensive.

False. Irony is the heart of humor. This qualifies.

Also no one crys when's they see rats get run over

False. blackax cries.

, why are cats different?

Rats are generally, if unfairly, regarded as vermin (though they have been highly efficient disease vectors in the past), and cats as beloved pets (by people other than you.).

[Vettezuki]

Justice!

http://blog.motorists.org/police-officer-raise-stop-sign-tickets/

[enkeivette]

I get it, I've been let off before, Nate also hasn't been let off by other officers. I also said legislative, not code. Officer A gets told by his CO that he is not allowed to let anyone off with a warning, so he does that. Not gonna fault him for being an officer where they require that sort of thing.

The legislature... legislates the code. And if you thought it was different why did you state following it as a justification to my post in the first place.

Second, you just inserted a hypothetical into my argument. You dont know that his supervisor told him to do anything. I've been let go by cops in my city before while driving the Vette.

Third, supervisor instruction or not the law is subjective as I explained. Meaning, this cop was just a douche bag.

[enkeivette]

Yeah . . . I think one area of accessible improvement, since most cities are incorporated entities is to decouple public services from the municipalities. The physical structures would remain assets of the municipalities, but staffing would all be done essentially on a contract basis with private firms that could be regularly evaluated for performance and cost in something more like a competitive market. As it is, the entitlements and incentives are pretty stupid.

I think while the robbery, rape, murder, and arson statistics are still above zero, cops should spend more time patrolling high crime streets and less time parked on the sidewalk with a radar.

[Vettezuki]

I think while the robbery, rape, murder, and arson statistics are still above zero, cops should spend more time patrolling high crime streets and less time parked on the sidewalk with a radar.

Exactly. That's what I'm talking about for incentives. If Acme Cop Corp. demonstrates lowering a crime rate, successfully investigating crime and finding criminals, WHILE not getting a bunch of complaints from the public about Gestapo tactics, they get their contract renewed. If they get a bunch of complaints, etc., they get fired. You'd also have a lot more flexibility in staffing up or down based on needs. You know, like pretty much everywhere else.

To be fair to CHP, I think they are explicitly evaluated on accident and fatality rates, and have worked to set up things like the MSF, etc.

Some wealthy/safe areas, like Irvine, don't hardly need cops at all.

[enkeivette]

Agree. There is no accountability.

Which is also why concealed carry permits are not getting signed in LA. The sheriff doesn't want any liability so he just refuses all of them.

Which is why some people just say fuck it and carry anyways. You know, if we were allowed to carry guns, random school and theater shootings would not happen. Because people like me would shoot those mother fuckers in the face. And whats worse, the people who cause crime with guns ignore the gun laws anyways.

[Shaolin Crane]

False. Irony is the heart of humor. This qualifies.
Rats are generally, if unfairly, regarded as vermin (though they have been highly efficient disease vectors in the past), and cats as beloved pets (by people other than you.).
Offensive jokes are funnier than clean ones.

Cats are vermin as well. If you don't believe me come down to the shop and you'll see they run amuck just as much as other varmint too.

I had a pet rat once, rats are beloved pets by many as well, and yet I do not find it terrible when one dies.

[fiveohwblow]

Too fucking srs in here. Beautiful la night

[enkeivette]

SRS?

I usually hate cats, but my brothers cat Nives is awesome. He's like a dog, he comes when you call him, he makes eye contact (dont even get that from whores), likes to be pet, and he head butts me. I love that cat, Id be sad if he died.

[enkeivette]

Hey 5.0 blow, dont you commute into downtown LA? I'm planning to take the 57 to the 10 to the 110S. How many hours do you think I'll need to get in there? I'm at Figueroa and 3rd.

Or am I thinking of blackax?

[Shaolin Crane]

Hey 5.0 blow, dont you commute into downtown LA? I'm planning to take the 57 to the 10 to the 110S. How many hours do you think I'll need to get in there? I'm at Figueroa and 3rd.

Or am I thinking of blackax?

That's Blackaxe, Justin lives in Portland.

FWIW 57-60-101

[blackax]

Hey 5.0 blow, dont you commute into downtown LA? I'm planning to take the 57 to the 10 to the 110S. How many hours do you think I'll need to get in there? I'm at Figueroa and 3rd.

Or am I thinking of blackax?

Ya I got to hollywood everyday.

first what time of the day?

The 60 and the 10 will both be as fast from where you are. Both slow down before the 605 and clear up after for some reason. and both will take you to the 101/110

I can leave my house in riverside at 8:15 and be at work at 9:50, but you will run into issues when somedays every freeway is fucked.

I would say it should take you an hour from the 57 to get to downtown.

[enkeivette]

That's Blackaxe, Justin lives in Portland.

FWIW 57-60-101

Oregon?

The 10 looks better than the 60 in the morning. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/31/9e2a5a8u.jpg

[enkeivette]

Ya I got to hollywood everyday.

first what time of the day?

The 60 and the 10 will both be as fast from where you are. Both slow down before the 605 and clear up after for some reason. and both will take you to the 101/110

I can leave my house in riverside at 8:15 and be at work at 9:50, but you will run into issues when somedays every freeway is fucked.

I would say it should take you an hour from the 57 to get to downtown.

That makes me feel better, thanks man. Im in Placentia/ Brea/ Fullerton area. So I think I'll leave 2-2.5 hours early and eat breakfast up there.

Traffic doesnt look so bad via satellite around 7, so if I can hit LA traffic at 7 hopefully it wont be too bad. I start at 830, I think I'll leave at 6 my first day just to be cautious.

[fiveohwblow]

Fucking 110 traffic yesterday was a beast.

[fiveohwblow]

Oregon?

The 10 looks better than the 60 in the morning. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/31/9e2a5a8u.jpg

Yes unfortunately.

[94cobra69ss396]

Having the Cobra smogged right now. This new cam better do better than the old one!

[BRUTAL64]

Having the Cobra smogged right now. This new cam better do better than the old one!

Good Luck. Hope it works out.:motorsmile::motorsmile:

[enkeivette]

Having the Cobra smogged right now. This new cam better do better than the old one!

Eek, fingers crossed for you buddy

[enkeivette]

Fucking 110 traffic yesterday was a beast.

How do you know how 110 traffic is if youre in OR?

[fiveohwblow]

How do you know how 110 traffic is if youre in OR?

I live in Oregon, but have been in LA all week.

[enkeivette]

Why?

[fiveohwblow]

Why?

Because in Oregon we've never seen the sun.

[enkeivette]

Cool?

[94cobra69ss396]

It didn't pass. It was high on everything on the 15 mph test and high on HC on the 25 mph test. I need to replace the MSD box because it died last week and then I'm getting a stock 4 cat h-pipe for it to replace the 2 cat one that on there now. I talked to Phill about it and told him what the numbers were and he said it wasn't far off from passing. He said if the guy would have run the engine at around 3000 rpms for about 3 minutes before the test that it probably would have passed but that replacing the h pipe should make it pass.

[fiveohwblow]

Cool?

No. I've decided I hate the sun and will stick to my liquid sunshine.

[kdracer73]

I have never followed this thread before....Not sure why though:rolleyes: I was working late one night and needed a break. Checked in here while looking in on the Aveo thread. Wasted a hour and a half reading the bi-polar ranting here:lmfao:

[enkeivette]

Bi-polar ranting equals me and Guy arguing.

Don't worry about the topic, just post about what you want to talk about. Ben and I were talking about politics while 5-0-blow chimes in with dead cats :)

[fiveohwblow]

Bi-polar ranting equals me and Guy arguing.

Don't worry about the topic, just post about what you want to talk about. Ben and I were talking about politics while 5-0-blow chimes in with dead cats :)

Lol that was guy that posted it. I just responded.

[Shaolin Crane]

Fucking. Wrecked.

[fiveohwblow]

Fucking. Wrecked.

Hell yes! It was worth it!!!

[94cobra69ss396]

Hell yes! It was worth it!!!

Was that you that was with Guy yesterday when he stopped by my house?

[fiveohwblow]

Was that you that was with Guy yesterday when he stopped by my house?

Sure was! A terribly tattered and still partially drunk me haha

[94cobra69ss396]

It was nice sort of meeting you, lol. By the way I burnt my eggs.

[fiveohwblow]

It was nice sort of meeting you, lol. By the way I burnt my eggs.

Haha it was nice meeting you as well. I was not quite myself so I apologize for that. Going without sleep for a few days and all that driving and Vegas... Took its toll. Sorry about the eggs, guy never shuts up :P

[Shaolin Crane]

I'm down, if Rons old setup can take you down I should be good.

[Shaolin Crane]

So I had a tire blow out today on the freeway. Absolutely destroyed the bed, bumper, tail light and tailgate.

[BADDASSC6]

I'm down, if Rons old setup can take you down I should be good.

Ron's old what did what?

[BADDASSC6]

So I raced Ron in the vette with my old motor. I was on Goodyears, he was on ET streets. He got me off the tree. In the end I ran a low 12 to his high 11, but I had 3-4 mph on him. I was pretty happy considering the HUGE advantage he had with the Mickey Thompsons. He refused to run me on a street tire so i knew there was little hope. I have a set of drag radials and a lot more power and you are not Ron.

[Shaolin Crane]

So I raced Ron in the vette with my old motor. I was on Goodyears, he was on ET streets. He got me off the tree. In the end I ran a low 12 to his high 11, but I had 3-4 mph on him. I was pretty happy considering the HUGE advantage he had with the Mickey Thompsons. He refused to run me on a street tire so i knew there was little hope. I have a set of drag radials and a lot more power and you are not Ron.

I don't blame him for not running on street tires, no reason to if it can be avoided. And you're right, i'm not Ron. :boggled:

[Vettezuki]

What I'd like to see are some Ron vs. Carlos road course track data breakdowns in the same car (not theirs). Zero mouth, all data. :jester:

[BADDASSC6]

I matched Rons time at the roval in my stock 5.0. Between the NT05s and the Vortech I think it's safe to say he had an advantage. We will be going to the track at some point. I have taken a lot of weight out of the car, added massive brakes, aero and a lot of cooling. I'm going hard with NASA in spring.

[Shaolin Crane]

I matched Rons time at the roval in my stock 5.0. Between the NT05s and the Vortech I think it's safe to say he had an advantage. We will be going to the track at some point. I have taken a lot of weight out of the car, added massive brakes, aero and a lot of cooling. I'm going hard with NASA in spring.

How did he have an advantage? Similar power, weight, gearing, yet your 5.0 has a MUCH better suspension design.
390rwhp vs 417rwhp is not much of an advantage.

[Vettezuki]

I matched Rons time at the roval in my stock 5.0. Between the NT05s and the Vortech I think it's safe to say he had an advantage. We will be going to the track at some point. I have taken a lot of weight out of the car, added massive brakes, aero and a lot of cooling. I'm going hard with NASA in spring.

I'd be surprised if you didn't beat him. You both have talent, but you've had radically more training and track time. But I'd be curious to see a more objective comparison, not a bunch of proxies, that's all.

[Vettezuki]

How did he have an advantage? Similar power, weight, gearing, yet your 5.0 has a MUCH better suspension design.
390rwhp vs 417rwhp is not much of an advantage.

Probably quite a bit more power under the curve. :huh: And tires, tires, tires. However, I think Ron had only the front brakes that day AIR. So that's a big debit. Anyone, this is kinda silly to compare these for anything other than a passing judgement if the intent is to isolate the driver parameter.

[BADDASSC6]

How did he have an advantage? Similar power, weight, gearing, yet your 5.0 has a MUCH better suspension design.
390rwhp vs 417rwhp is not much of an advantage.

Your facts are all false. Ron's old motor had 460 rwhp. That's an advantage. Stock 5.0 are in the 360-370 range. NT05 are sticker than the Pirellis that came on my car. Have you ever driven the roval? I didn't think so. It's fast and 100 rwhp will go a long way there. I had a 96 with a procharger on it. The 5.0 has better suspension, but its not really that much better. I know you've read it on the Internet and probably watch some YouTube videos gassing it up, but its still a mustang with a live axle. You would know if you drove it.

[BRUTAL64]

So I had a tire blow out today on the freeway. Absolutely destroyed the bed, bumper, tail light and tailgate.

Sorry to hear that.

[Shaolin Crane]

Probably quite a bit more power under the curve. :huh: And tires, tires, tires. However, I think Ron had only the front brakes that day AIR. So that's a big debit. Anyone, this is kinda silly to compare these for anything other than a passing judgement if the intent is to isolate the driver parameter.

Doubt it, Variable timing makes them pretty even.

[BADDASSC6]

Of course variable timing is like VTEC sure he has 100 rwhp more, but its all over when my VTEC kicks in! LOL. Guy, let me know when your ready to stop Internet bench racing for Ron and your ready to get with me on the track. :inout:

Ben, get off your ass and get a nut swinger smiley.

[Shaolin Crane]

Your facts are all false. Ron's old motor had 460 rwhp. That's an advantage. Stock 5.0 are in the 360-370 range. NT05 are sticker than the Pirellis that came on my car. Have you ever driven the roval? I didn't think so. It's fast and 100 rwhp will go a long way there. I had a 96 with a procharger on it. The 5.0 has better suspension, but its not really that much better. I know you've read it on the Internet and probably watch some YouTube videos gassing it up, but its still a mustang with a live axle. You would know if you drove it.
Yeah, completely forget the fact that I drove an 07 every day for 3 years. I know those are WILDLY different though :rolleyes:

The S197 chassis is better in every way, but sure lets compare only the back end of the car to a chassis designed in the 70's. You can completely forget the better k-member design, steering rack, a-arms, McPherson setup, weight distribution, blah blah blah. All parts I have personally worked on, upgraded and raced on.

Frankly I'm fucking tired of your holier than though attitude when it comes to what I know, I build my shit, race my shit, and don't ever brag about what i've accomplished or what not. I give a hard time but you've brought it up more than once that what I have done and know is all based off the google search theory. Google is free, and yes I spend a lot of time reading but i'm also out there running my stuff. I just don't feel the need to get online and post about it.

So for the record, google built my engines, painted my cars, powdercoated my parts, did my interior, wired the cars, installed my stereo, did my axle, etc etc. I'll make sure I remember that

[Shaolin Crane]

Of course variable timing is like VTEC sure he has 100 rwhp more, but its all over when my VTEC kicks in! LOL. Guy, let me know when your ready to stop Internet bench racing for Ron and your ready to get with me on the track. :inout:

Ben, get off your ass and get a but swinger smiley.
Who's the ass swinger here? Every time I post you make a comment about my work being based off of google.

I'm done getting into it with you, when my bottom of the barrel priority of racing a car that I don't give a shit about comes to fruition I hope that your new technology takes out my $8200 budget build. Until then I will enjoy the build and focus on shit in my life that really matters.

[Shaolin Crane]

Sorry to hear that.

Shit happens, things could be worse. I'm not injured.

[Vettezuki]

. . . Frankly I'm fucking tired of your holier than though attitude

Note his title. .

I build my shit, race my shit . . .

Carlos is a show me the money kind of guy.

[Shaolin Crane]

Note his title. .



Carlos is a show me the money kind of guy.

Moved because it was fucking up my thread.

My build threads can't be any more of "show me the money" Since I do majority of the work and ALWAYS show gratitude where it's due. I guess every time I work on a car I'll make a thread about it to appease Carlos :rolleyes:

Either way i'm done with it, I was always humble with light razzing and NEVER made claims. I even, on more than one occasion offered to have all three of us drive the gray car for a true driver comparison and have always given credit to Ron and Carlos as better drivers. I don't post to brag, I post to have a record of what was done and when.

Carlos, Since you insist on my mustangs being crap, and my car being built by google don't worry about driving it. I'd hate to disgust you in any way.

[Vettezuki]

Moved because it was fucking up my thread.

My build threads can't be any more of "show me the money"

Bluntly, he means timing and scoring race data as soon as anyone starts talking about racing. If you say, "race my shit" it doesn't mean much to him without data backup because it largely eliminates opinions. (Though race drivers are gifted at explaining why they weren't as fast as they "might" have been. :))

[blackax]

Shit happens, things could be worse. I'm not injured.

Do you know why the tire went? And glad to hear you are ok.

[fiveohwblow]

Bluntly, he means timing and scoring race data as soon as anyone starts talking about racing. If you say, "race my shit" it doesn't mean much to him without data backup because it largely eliminates opinions. (Though race drivers are gifted at explaining why they weren't as fast as they "might" have been. :))

I don't know if you know this or not, but his car isn't running yet.... Quite practically impossible. I think it was hypothetical for the future. Pretty easy for me to interpret.

[Shaolin Crane]

Don't care, in fact I'll never post anything about horsepower numbers, track times, or even events. If he wants to know he can ask by word of mouth. I will make sure that my posts are documentive for records sake and everything else will be blatant trolling as usual. I've also placed him on my ignore list.

Now that i have said that. I miss vegasVegas and want to go back

[Shaolin Crane]

Do you know why the tire went? And glad to hear you are ok.

Nope, plenty of tread, checked the tire pressure this week in the event I had to use it for Vegas. My luck I guess, let's hope insurance covers it.

[Vettezuki]

I don't know if you know this or not, but his car isn't running yet.... Quite practically impossible. I think it was hypothetical for the future. Pretty easy for me to interpret.

I don't want to make this more than it is, but only pointing out where the things people say get interpreted and read differently. Guy mentioned build AND RACE his stuff in general terms, and has before. Racing means something very specific, quasi-religious to Carlos. :jester:

[Shaolin Crane]

I'm sick of talking about it. I like this forum and there is a reason I post here, but if it becomes to me what the other forums have, I have no issue letting it go. I certainly don't need the internet to keep in touch with people here, I have a phone for that.

[fiveohwblow]

Don't care, in fact I'll never post anything about horsepower numbers, track times, or even events. If he wants to know he can ask by word of mouth. I will make sure that my posts are documentive for records sake and everything else will be blatant trolling as usual. I've also placed him on my ignore list.

Now that i have said that. I miss vegasVegas and want to go back

As do I friend.

[Vettezuki]

Let's talk about cats.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30714633.jpg

[Shaolin Crane]

As do I friend.

If I can control my mouth, I may have a reason to go every weekend :crutches:

[fiveohwblow]

If I can control my mouth, I may have a reason to go every weekend :crutches:

LMFAO if I lived there I would

[Shaolin Crane]

Need wingman. Not shuffleman

[fiveohwblow]

Need wingman. Not shuffleman

Gfy

[enkeivette]

Shit happens, things could be worse. I'm not injured.

Very true. My ex asked me if Id be mad at her if she wrecked my Vette. I said Id be sad, but not mad at her if it was an accident. Id just build another one.

[enkeivette]

I was always humble...


Hahahahahahahahaha!! :P


I don't post to brag...


:leaving:

[94cobra69ss396]

I matched Rons time at the roval in my stock 5.0. Between the NT05s and the Vortech I think it's safe to say he had an advantage. We will be going to the track at some point. I have taken a lot of weight out of the car, added massive brakes, aero and a lot of cooling. I'm going hard with NASA in spring.

I know Guy's done with this but I'm not. First, the Cobra made 429rwhp and 387rwtq on the pump gas tune I was running. It made 471rwhp on the race tune but I could only run it on the pump gas tune or it would detonate. I also had to run straight VP110 with the pump gas tune. Second, I was running 245/45/17 NT01s all the way around so I did have a tire advantage but I was also running with me and a passenger and we were both over 200 lbs back then. My car weighed just under 3900lbs. Lastly, as Ben mentioned my rear brakes were not working so I was running on just front brakes and you know how important braking is on the Roval. Let's see what kind of time you run without your rear brakes in your Mustang. Speaking of your times, when did you match my 2:02? I pulled up the Sunday that you said you ran your Mustang with Speed Ventures (the day after you broke your Vette) and I see a 2:03 as your fastest.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/Carlos_100712.jpg

So technically you are just a little slower than a '94 Cobra without rear brakes. Once I get new tires, the methanol kit, brakes and can afford (I have a morgage and family to support so extra money is hard to come by on my income) to go run the Roval I will be going back. I know I will be running faster than my old 2:02.

[Shaolin Crane]

Hahahahahahahahaha!! :P



:leaving:

It's true. I've never bragged about anything. Sure, I give you shit, because, I can. and troll quite a bit, At the end of the day though, have I ever been an asshole when you sent me a text or asked me a question? Nope,

[Shaolin Crane]

Very true. My ex asked me if Id be mad at her if she wrecked my Vette. I said Id be sad, but not mad at her if it was an accident. Id just build another one.

I told my ex the same thing, the blue car was supposed to be hers, if she wrecked it, no big deal. Just fix it and rag on it again. Easy to replace cars, people not so much.

[94cobra69ss396]

Let's talk about cats.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30714633.jpg

Okay, this is ours.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/20130902_112603.jpg

[enkeivette]

It's true. I've never bragged about anything. Sure, I give you shit, because, I can. and troll quite a bit, At the end of the day though, have I ever been an asshole when you sent me a text or asked me a question? Nope,

True true. But dude, you have to admit, and I think Justin would have my back on this one, humble is not a word anyone would use to describe your self-confidence :P

[enkeivette]

929

Nives, the dog trapped in a cats body, licking his balls.

[BADDASSC6]

I know Guy's done with this but I'm not. First, the Cobra made 429rwhp and 387rwtq on the pump gas tune I was running. It made 471rwhp on the race tune but I could only run it on the pump gas tune or it would detonate. I also had to run straight VP110 with the pump gas tune. Second, I was running 245/45/17 NT01s all the way around so I did have a tire advantage but I was also running with me and a passenger and we were both over 200 lbs back then. My car weighed just under 3900lbs. Lastly, as Ben mentioned my rear brakes were not working so I was running on just front brakes and you know how important braking is on the Roval. Let's see what kind of time you run without your rear brakes in your Mustang. Speaking of your times, when did you match my 2:02? I pulled up the Sunday that you said you ran your Mustang with Speed Ventures (the day after you broke your Vette) and I see a 2:03 as your fastest.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/Carlos_100712.jpg

So technically you are just a little slower than a '94 Cobra without rear brakes. Once I get new tires, the methanol kit, brakes and can afford (I have a morgage and family to support so extra money is hard to come by on my income) to go run the Roval I will be going back. I know I will be running faster than my old 2:02.

Ron, I had a passenger the entire time he's a big dude like me 220-250. Not having rear brakes is me dragging you with a street tire, just an excuse. I'm checking the results because you only posted on session. The Vette didn't brake I put it away because I flat spotted the tires and it was hazardous. It's working now. It's still going to be faster than you Mustang.

[BADDASSC6]

I know Guy's done with this but I'm not. First, the Cobra made 429rwhp and 387rwtq on the pump gas tune I was running. It made 471rwhp on the race tune but I could only run it on the pump gas tune or it would detonate. I also had to run straight VP110 with the pump gas tune. Second, I was running 245/45/17 NT01s all the way around so I did have a tire advantage but I was also running with me and a passenger and we were both over 200 lbs back then. My car weighed just under 3900lbs. Lastly, as Ben mentioned my rear brakes were not working so I was running on just front brakes and you know how important braking is on the Roval. Let's see what kind of time you run without your rear brakes in your Mustang. Speaking of your times, when did you match my 2:02? I pulled up the Sunday that you said you ran your Mustang with Speed Ventures (the day after you broke your Vette) and I see a 2:03 as your fastest.

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/500/Carlos_100712.jpg

So technically you are just a little slower than a '94 Cobra without rear brakes. Once I get new tires, the methanol kit, brakes and can afford (I have a morgage and family to support so extra money is hard to come by on my income) to go run the Roval I will be going back. I know I will be running faster than my old 2:02.

SOrry missed the last part. Let me know when you are ready. I will either bring the vette or the stang whichever makes you happy.

[BADDASSC6]

Moved because it was fucking up my thread.

My build threads can't be any more of "show me the money" Since I do majority of the work and ALWAYS show gratitude where it's due. I guess every time I work on a car I'll make a thread about it to appease Carlos :rolleyes:

Either way i'm done with it, I was always humble with light razzing and NEVER made claims. I even, on more than one occasion offered to have all three of us drive the gray car for a true driver comparison and have always given credit to Ron and Carlos as better drivers. I don't post to brag, I post to have a record of what was done and when.

Carlos, Since you insist on my mustangs being crap, and my car being built by google don't worry about driving it. I'd hate to disgust you in any way.

You should think before you type and get a grip on you emotions. I did know you moved this thread here until Ben told me. You have a lot of big opinions that you don't mind sharing. If I think you full of shit I will let you know it. Trust me I have been sugar coating it.

I don't think that google built your car. I have never said that. I think that you quote a lot of shit on the internet about performance and handling like it fact. How are you going to tell me the difference in handling between two cars (Mustang and Corvette) that I own and have driven at the track? Because you saw some shit on youtube doesn't mean shit.

I take money out of my checking account every month to pay Ford for a Mustang that I ordered just the way I wanted it. It's money that I could use for other things including my vette because I wanted another Mustang. No typo, another Mustang. Second time down the Mustang road for this guy. Your "Carlos hates Mustangs" theory is generated to discredit anything I have to say about the Mustang that is not positive.

I don't know why you would think that I wanted to drive your car. I think I will survive not having the honor. Please enjoy it, you worked hard for it.

[Shaolin Crane]

You should think before you type and get a grip on you emotions. I did know you moved this thread here until Ben told me. You have a lot of big opinions that you don't mind sharing. If I think you full of shit I will let you know it. Trust me I have been sugar coating it.

I don't think that google built your car. I have never said that. I think that you quote a lot of shit on the internet about performance and handling like it fact. How are you going to tell me the difference in handling between two cars (Mustang and Corvette) that I own and have driven at the track? Because you saw some shit on youtube doesn't mean shit.

I take money out of my checking account every month to pay Ford for a Mustang that I ordered just the way I wanted it. It's money that I could use for other things including my vette because I wanted another Mustang. No typo, another Mustang. Second time down the Mustang road for this guy. Your "Carlos hates Mustangs" theory is generated to discredit anything I have to say about the Mustang that is not positive.

I don't know why you would think that I wanted to drive your car. I think I will survive not having the honor. Please enjoy it, you worked hard for it.
My emotions are fine, and my response was limited. Don't sugar coat things, we're all adults here and shit like that is annoying

I'd love to watch youtube as much as you make it out to be that I do, but being home for about 4-5 hours a day, total, doesn't leave me with much time for anything other than sleeping.

We could spend weeks nit picking each others responses, and while it's tempting, This is the last of it, i'm going to go back into my room, watch a bunch of you tube videos, play some forza, and pay someone to finish my car, if it gets brought up again I will move it all to the drunken brawl.

[94cobra69ss396]

Ron, I had a passenger the entire time he's a big dude like me 220-250. Not having rear brakes is me dragging you with a street tire, just an excuse. I'm checking the results because you only posted on session. The Vette didn't brake I put it away because I flat spotted the tires and it was hazardous. It's working now. It's still going to be faster than you Mustang.

I know your Corvette is faster than my Cobra on a road course, I never said it wasn't. That would be like you trying to say your Corvette could beat the Chevelle on the dragstrip. You have way more done to your Vette than I do to the Cobra. All the Cobra really has is a PHB and a set of lower control arms. Other than that it's pretty much stock. The issue I have is that you said that you could beat me in my Cobra and Guy in his Mustang (you never said which one of his Mustangs) in your Mustang because you are so much better of a driver than we are. I know you think so but I have to disagree. I've never had a driving lesson but my brother did when he went through the CHP academy. He was also the best driver in his class and when it comes to times Phil and I are very close in anything we drive. Here's a video of us both running the Cobra at a Speed Venture autocross. I ran a 37.46 and Phil ran a 37.54.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L6VBLP3pJI

[BADDASSC6]

Let me clarify. If I bring my Mustang out to play it will be ready.

[Shaolin Crane]

Seriously now? I had a blowout on the same side with the spare tire, fucked the side of the truck even more. Had it towed to the body shop to see the verdict

[94cobra69ss396]

Let me clarify. If I bring my Mustang out to play it will be ready.

Wait, so proving you are a better driver than me by beating me in my Cobra with your stock Mustang is no longer the case? What are your plans for it then? You already said you added big brakes and since I have stock brakes you will have a braking advantage but then again according to you brakes are just an excuse. What else do you have planned for it?

[Vettezuki]

Wait, so proving you are a better driver than me by beating me in my Cobra with your stock Mustang is no longer the case? What are your plans for it then? You already said you added big brakes and since I have stock brakes you will have a braking advantage but then again according to you brakes are just an excuse. What else do you have planned for it?

If the intent is to isolate driver, it has to be the same car, same track, same conditions. Other than that is kind of silly, too many "buts". An option is to swap cars, so each drive your own AND the other's car. With timing and scoring data, the picture would be pretty clear.

[94cobra69ss396]

No offense to Carlos but with how he drives on the rev limiter I wouldn't want him driving the Cobra. I drive it hard but I don't over run the engine. My rev limiter is set to the factory 6250 and I shift it at 5800-6000. Just watch the video of me and Phil running the Cobra on the autocross and you can hear how much easier I am on the engine than even Phil is and he never hit the rev limiter.

[Vettezuki]

Fair point. I only mean to say that if the driver is not isolated/controlled for as a parameter, there won't be any "conclusion".

[94cobra69ss396]

I agree but he did say that he could beat us in his stock Mustang and now has plans to change it. That would have been like him saying he could beat the Cobra in a drag race in his Vette back when we raced and then changed to a drag race suspension and tubed his Vette for the race.

[Shaolin Crane]

So I just got a call from the body shop. It's 90% certain the truck is totalled. KBB Shows value of 8000-8500 for that truck.

Checked values for a 1999-2000 f250 and they are only 6500-8500.

Checked value for my 08, its 12000-13000.

So here's my quandry, use the money to buy another 99-00 Superduty and call it a day. Cheap insurance, cheap registration, cheap smog, done and paid for. Continue trying to sell the 08, or give it away at a loss.

Use money to fix the 08, justify the truck payment, still owe 7k but have a new truck basically, new trans and engine.

Buy another 97 Powerstroke.

[Vettezuki]

So I just got a call from the body shop. It's 90% certain the truck is totalled. KBB Shows value of 8000-8500 for that truck.

Checked values for a 1999-2000 f250 and they are only 6500-8500.

Checked value for my 08, its 12000-13000.

So here's my quandry, use the money to buy another 99-00 Superduty and call it a day. Cheap insurance, cheap registration, cheap smog, done and paid for. Continue trying to sell the 08, or give it away at a loss.

Use money to fix the 08, justify the truck payment, still owe 7k but have a new truck basically, new trans and engine.

Buy another 97 Powerstroke.

If you're fundamentally trying to build ahead to buying a house and stuff like that, then all decisions need to be oriented towards accumulating money. (That's the opposite of spending.)

I'd opt for another 99-00 SuperDuty free and clear. I'd seriously consider just giving the 08 away, just to get it out of your hair.

That must have been the biggest cluster fuck blowout of all time. I had a tire completely self-destroy in the loaded Dodge on the trip to Milwaukee, nothing other than the tire was hurt.

[Shaolin Crane]

If you're fundamentally trying to build ahead to buying a house and stuff like that, then all decisions need to be oriented towards accumulating money. (That's the opposite of spending.)

I'd opt for another 99-00 SuperDuty free and clear. I'd seriously consider just giving the 08 away, just to get it out of your hair.

That must have been the biggest cluster fuck blowout of all time. I had a tire completely self-destroy in the loaded Dodge on the trip to Milwaukee, nothing other than the tire was hurt.

Well, two tires in a row didnt help, the entire bed is bent inward. Hard to close the tail gate and now it hangs about 2" off the passenger side of the truck.

I'm leaning towards the Superduty as well. I'm thinking of dropping the 08 to what I owe and letting it go. If they give me the worth, and my mods back then i'll do that. It would be nice to be free and clear again, minus the small loan I took out, but that can be paid quickly.

[BADDASSC6]

Wait, so proving you are a better driver than me by beating me in my Cobra with your stock Mustang is no longer the case? What are your plans for it then? You already said you added big brakes and since I have stock brakes you will have a braking advantage but then again according to you brakes are just an excuse. What else do you have planned for it?

Frist, the Mustang is 100% factory stock including the brakes. I only took the air pressure down and it had the factory alignment.

Second, I think I am a better driver than you are at the Roval. I'm sure if we went to the bullshit Adams track you would be faster since I have never driven it. I think it's a little ridicoulous to think I wouldn't be faster based on the fast that I have been there a whole bunch of times. I wouldn't have thought you to be the kind of person to think you have mastered a track after ONE DAY.

WHat difference does it make what my Stang has done to it. It's stock now. The roval is open this weekend. But you are at a disadvantage because you're 500+rwhp (460 rwhp is what you told me it made when we raced) doesn't have meth, tires, brakes...............

Roval is open this weekend

[BADDASSC6]

No offense to Carlos but with how he drives on the rev limiter I wouldn't want him driving the Cobra. I drive it hard but I don't over run the engine. My rev limiter is set to the factory 6250 and I shift it at 5800-6000. Just watch the video of me and Phil running the Cobra on the autocross and you can hear how much easier I am on the engine than even Phil is and he never hit the rev limiter.

Hmm, so I'm not one of the guys claiming that his race car is a DD so I drive it about as hard as it can be driven. That's why I have a big truck and a trailer. My ls2 lasted 3 years of racing just about every month like that. It was actually killed by heat. I shifted it at 7200.

[94cobra69ss396]

I'm sure if we went to the bullshit Adams track you would be faster since I have never driven it.

That's the first time you have ever said that someone might be faster than you on anything other than a drag strip!

My Cobra is definately not ready to run on a road course but when it is I want to run you in your Mustang on the Roval. Your Mustang in factory trim with the Track Package is basically the same as the Cobra is set up now except for the power. I also have more time in the alignment as I'm only running -2 degrees of camber and the car pushes. I will be realigning it at -3 degrees for the track and will run the -2 on the street.

I never said I had the Roval mastered but I do think I can run a good time there even with only going once. Especially since I will have rear brakes when I go again.

The Cobra made 450rwhp on the race tune when I raced you at the drag strip. It made 471 after I installed the UPR intake tube. It's the Chevelle that made 460rwhp.

[BADDASSC6]

Sure, this will be like our drag race where I'm on street tire your on a significantly modified car. It however will be much closer than if you raced the vette. I am standing by.

[94cobra69ss396]

I thought you had plans for the Mustang?

[94cobra69ss396]

Hmm, so I'm not one of the guys claiming that his race car is a DD so I drive it about as hard as it can be driven. That's why I have a big truck and a trailer. My ls2 lasted 3 years of racing just about every month like that. It was actually killed by heat. I shifted it at 7200.

I'm not sure how GM handles this but I'm assuming it's like Ford and cuts fuel. That means that every time you hit the limiter your running a cylinder lean. That will take it's toll. I guess since I build my engines and don't have money to drop into it if I break it that I'm easier on it. Like I said I shift the Cobra at 5800 - 6000 and kept the factory rev limiter because that is all the cam is good for. On the Chevelle I have a 7000 RPM limiter chip in MSD box but I shift at 6500. I've hit valve float in it once at 7200 RPM during a burnout when I didn't have a chip in the box. That is why it has a 7000 chip now.

[BADDASSC6]

I'm not sure how GM handles this but I'm assuming it's like Ford and cuts fuel. That means that every time you hit the limiter your running a cylinder lean. That will take it's toll. I guess since I build my engines and don't have money to drop into it if I break it that I'm easier on it. Like I said I shift the Cobra at 5800 - 6000 and kept the factory rev limiter because that is all the cam is good for. On the Chevelle I have a 7000 RPM limiter chip in MSD box but I shift at 6500. I've hit valve float in it once at 7200 RPM during a burnout when I didn't have a chip in the box. That is why it has a 7000 chip now.

Yup cut fuel or spark. Yup I drive it hard. Yup parts are expensive so I pay shops that build a lot of motors to ensure that I get the most out of my dollars. Racing is hard and expensive. The new motor doesn't get rev'd as hard as the old one only because it doesn't continue to make power at 7K+ like the old one. I do actually make pretty good money, but I also have a fund that I don't touch for catastrophic failure. Even with all the abuse the LS2 with the ETP heads lasted 3 years of of racing. That is very very very good considering the heat of the California desert the revs and the times it posted.

[BADDASSC6]

I thought you had plans for the Mustang?

I do. I plan on the Hellion single turbo kit with the FR CJ intake. The goal is to run 9's. There is an older post discussing whether the FR SC is better than the Turbo kit. What is your timeline to get your car ready?

[BADDASSC6]

That's the first time you have ever said that someone might be faster than you on anything other than a drag strip!

Your Mustang in factory trim with the Track Package is basically the same as the Cobra is set up now except for the power.

Faster driver. I think that if we went to Adams and I brought the vette I could beat you by the end of the night. Mainly because I would use my Traqmate.

Except the power is an understatement ~370 to mid 500's with the meth. You would also be running NT05s to my factory Pirellis.

I cannot concur that 150-200 rwhp+ Tire advantage is about the same. I ran my 1:49.8 with the factory calipers on the vette. So big brakes are nice, but if you are going for one flying lap then they are not an advantage. I know because it was a hat-trick that I did for years.

[Shaolin Crane]

insurance tried to screw me by filing the claim under collision. After quoting my binder and proving to them that a tire blow out is a comprehensive coverage claim she says ''your adjuster will make that decision''

So I have a feeling that they're gonna jerk me around big time.

[enkeivette]

insurance tried to screw me by filing the claim under collision. After quoting my binder and proving to them that a tire blow out is a comprehensive coverage claim she says ''your adjuster will make that decision''

So I have a feeling that they're gonna jerk me around big time.

If they do, sue them. $35 to file in small claims court, bring that binder and your contract, read it to the judge, pow! ...Pow! :judge: ...Pow!

[enkeivette]

And if you win, ask the judge for your $35 back, you will likely get it.

[94cobra69ss396]

Except the power is an understatement ~370 to mid 500's with the meth. You would also be running NT05s to my factory Pirellis.

It won't be mid 500s with the meth. I will actually lose a little power because I won't be changing the tune. I will also be running the pump gas tune which only put down 467rwhp. I put down 497rwhp on the race gas tune.

I do. I plan on the Hellion single turbo kit with the FR CJ intake. The goal is to run 9's. There is an older post discussing whether the FR SC is better than the Turbo kit. What is your timeline to get your car ready?

I won't be able to get anything until next year. I'm hoping that I'll be able to get everything when I get my tax return next year. So you will probably already have the turbo setup on your car and will be making a lot more HP than me.

[BADDASSC6]

So 100-150 RWHP advantage + a tire advantage is about the same then?

I have some extra capital this fall and next spring. My #1 priority is the vette. The Mustang is awesome, it's so awesome that my Father in law wants to by it. He was actually going to by a Boss, but the dealership wanted $20k over sticker. Sarah wants me to sell it because she wants the new C7. I am trying to resist the MOD bug until the Z07 comes out so see if it's worth a shit.

When we race I will be ready. Don't worry about me.

[94cobra69ss396]

I meant the suspension and brakes. If you don't have turbos by then, then yes I will have about 100rwhp more but somehow I don't see you showing up without a stickier tire. Besides, you did say "I will rape both of you in my wife's car. I will do a flying lap in the stang. Then we will see if you can match it."

[Shaolin Crane]

If they do, sue them. $35 to file in small claims court, bring that binder and your contract, read it to the judge, pow! ...Pow! :judge: ...Pow!

I though small claims was 5k maximum? the truck carries a value of around 8k

[blackax]

I though small claims was 5k maximum? the truck carries a value of around 8k


But its not going to total the whole truck is it?

[Shaolin Crane]

But its not going to total the whole truck is it?

Yeah, probably is.

[Vettezuki]

. . .. I am trying to resist the MOD bug until the Z07 comes out so see if it's worth a shit. . . .

Preliminary indications for ZO7, unless I heard wrong is 600HP NA from the factory on a smaller displacement.

[Shaolin Crane]

Preliminary indications for ZO7, unless I heard wrong is 600HP NA from the factory on a smaller displacement.
With or without new LT1 tech?

[BADDASSC6]

Preliminary indications for ZO7, unless I heard wrong is 600HP NA from the factory on a smaller displacement.

I don't think it's possible, but the base model ECU does have boost and waste gate tables.

[enkeivette]

I though small claims was 5k maximum? the truck carries a value of around 8k

Its 12 or 15 now, used to be 10.

[enkeivette]

Aw, Ron and Carlos are boyfriends again. When did that happen?

[fiveohwblow]

Aw, Ron and Carlos are boyfriends again. When did that happen?

Lol

[Shaolin Crane]

Very much want this truck
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/4043460065.html

[Vettezuki]

I don't think it's possible, but the base model ECU does have boost and waste gate tables.

I meant < 7L. It would have to spin and breath like a Ferarri, but that's a big bore short stroke, flat plane crank, crazy DOHC. Not sure that's in the cards, even with all the progress that has been made for OHV, but who knows considering how far they've come while still making them cleaner to boot.

[94cobra69ss396]

Aw, Ron and Carlos are boyfriends again. When did that happen?

I still won't give him any cuddle time though.

[enkeivette]

I meant < 7L. It would have to spin and breath like a Ferarri, but that's a big bore short stroke, flat plane crank, crazy DOHC. Not sure that's in the cards, even with all the progress that has been made for OHV, but who knows considering how far they've come while still making them cleaner to boot.

I want one of those DOHC mercruiser Corvette motors.

[enkeivette]

I still won't give him any cuddle time though.

Ha! Thank goodness

[enkeivette]

Very much want this truck
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/4043460065.html

May have been in an accident. Bumper gap looks very close, and why else would you replace steering components?

[blackax]

I want one of those DOHC mercruiser Corvette motors.

The LT5 wasn't bad for its time but I would only take on in a ZR1, I don't think I would ever swap it into anything.


But the new LT1 is a killer, no need for DOHC, we have VVT with our single cam and we have DI, and the fucker still gets 29 MPG EPA, (they could of said 30 MPG if they would of kept in eco all the time)

I really cant wait till people crack the new ECM and start to mess with it, I cant even think about how much power is just a tune away.

[Shaolin Crane]

May have been in an accident. Bumper gap looks very close, and why else would you replace steering components?

Steering box is sort of a common problem. Lifted truck often get new suspension components all the time. Stuff does wear out in 250k

[94cobra69ss396]

Steering box is sort of a common problem. Lifted truck often get new suspension components all the time. Stuff does wear out in 250k

I have put upper and lower ball joints and the Explorer twice now since doing the SAS. I've also replced the heims on the steering 3 times.

[blackax]

Just bought a new pair of glasses to replace my old (lost) SPY's

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NGOq6-NZqYg/UikFPyKROVI/AAAAAAAAJkI/KUA-IlvxD5Q/w958-h719-no/IMG_20130905_152650.jpg

[Shaolin Crane]

BRO, those are Ill BRO

[fiveohwblow]

BRO, those are Ill BRO

Possibly the illest bro bro

[blackax]

BRO, those are Ill BRO

I'm as much of a BRO as you are a hipster

[Shaolin Crane]

I'm as much of a BRO as you are a hipster

I was thinking about buying some low ride jeans

[BADDASSC6]

I want one of those DOHC mercruiser Corvette motors.

Nope not me.

[Vettezuki]

Holy Shit, a bird with a wingspan of >20ft was real? Nature, U-whack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentavis

[enkeivette]

Ben, fu-ckin-crazy

Tapatalk, fuck your mother.

[enkeivette]

Nope not me.

You prob couldnt really modify it very much, but at 400 hp stock it wouldnt take much. Plus I love it when people think Im an idiot, only to discover that they are just ignorant.

Like my neighbor, he comes up to me and says, what is that shiny thing behind your front bumper? A cold air intake? I say no, thats an intercooler, its supercharged. He says huh, and leaves.

He actually turns around down the block and comes back to say, but how could it be intercooled if its supercharged? As if I was lying, I showed him.

I would love to have an LT5 in an old hot rod, people walk over and say, what kinda motor is that? Id say, a DOHC corvette motor. Hmmmmm

[enkeivette]

Reminds me of Gumball 3000, kinda not really. They went to a car show and went up to the owner of a 2000 era V6 Mustang who went a little crazy with plastic chrome. He put a GTR logo on the back (before there was a GTR mustang concept).

They ask him, GTR huh? He says yup, special model. They say thats the rotary in there right? Yup. A rotary with pistons and everything ya? Ya huh.

[enkeivette]

http://youtu.be/hVlA1eBZ9Cg

Its turbo too! WITH headers!

[Vettezuki]

Some of these are epic. I love the videos at events like Coachella where you can pretty easily get people to say they love band so and so. . . which does not exist.

Or the "Sign this petition to end women's suffrage!" Or "Ban di-hydrogen monoxide."

[BADDASSC6]

You prob couldnt really modify it very much, but at 400 hp stock it wouldnt take much. Plus I love it when people think Im an idiot, only to discover that they are just ignorant.

Like my neighbor, he comes up to me and says, what is that shiny thing behind your front bumper? A cold air intake? I say no, thats an intercooler, its supercharged. He says huh, and leaves.

He actually turns around down the block and comes back to say, but how could it be intercooled if its supercharged? As if I was lying, I showed him.

I would love to have an LT5 in an old hot rod, people walk over and say, what kinda motor is that? Id say, a DOHC corvette motor. Hmmmmm

That's my thought. They tried it and went back to the good old push rods. I love the coyote in my stang, but even with VVTI its no match down low for an LS. It will scream past 7k though.

[BADDASSC6]

I do think the coyote is the only DOHC V8 where the packaging was done right.

[Vettezuki]

I do think the coyote is the only DOHC V8 where the packaging was done right.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Ferrari_458_Italia_engine.jpg

:huh:

[BADDASSC6]

Nope that thing is monstrous. It takes a lot of room.

[Vettezuki]

Nope that thing is monstrous. It takes a lot of room.

Maybe I'll look up dimensions later.

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/ferrari-458-italia-engine-build-process_100357699_m.jpg

Cuz this ain't exactly petite.

http://image.hotrod.com/f/feature_stories/hrdp_1306_ford_coyote_engine_swap_guide/46473472+w640/hrdp-1306-01+ford-coyote-engine-swap-guide+coyote-engine-install.jpg

[BADDASSC6]

Maybe I'll look up dimensions later.

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/ferrari-458-italia-engine-build-process_100357699_m.jpg

Cuz this ain't exactly petite.

http://image.hotrod.com/f/feature_stories/hrdp_1306_ford_coyote_engine_swap_guide/46473472+w640/hrdp-1306-01+ford-coyote-engine-swap-guide+coyote-engine-install.jpg

Right, it's not the LS motors are probably the best packaged motors out there. The Ferrari photo lacked the huge aluminum intake manifold, the 5.0 was complete. That's really why I don't car for DOHC motors. The heads are too fat.

[Vettezuki]

Right, it's not the LS motors are probably the best packaged motors out there. The Ferrari photo lacked the huge aluminum intake manifold, the 5.0 was complete. That's really why I don't car for DOHC motors. The heads are too fat.

Total form factor of the Ferrari motor is pretty tight in my estimation, the high rise of the intake under the back of a F458 is just fine. No DOHC is going to fit anything like an OHV ever. For real tiny, can't be a rotary. You can fit those just about literally in your lap. But yeah, no argument here, the best value, packaging performance motor is clearly the LS series. They kind of knocked it out of the park and keep on trucking.

[enkeivette]

I saw some guy going 10mph over the limit... rapist scum. Where's an orange county rich city cop when you need one?

[Shaolin Crane]

I saw some guy going 10mph over the limit... rapist scum. Where's an orange county rich city cop when you need one?

Probably following you around.

[fiveohwblow]

Oh lawd let me jack off all over to the beat of the mighty LS Drum

[Vettezuki]

Oh lawd let me jack off all over to the beat of the mighty LS Drum

You can't handle the truth! (Jack Nicholson) - YouTube

[enkeivette]

Probably following you around.

Haha

[enkeivette]

Probably following you around.

Speaking of cops with real work to do, I asked an LA cop a question yesterday. There are a lot of one way streets where you can make a left from the left corner, staying near the sidewalk. A lot of people treat this like a right hand turn and make the turn at a red light. I see people do it A LOT. But you cant apparently. Its technically running a red light, $700 ticket.

[Shaolin Crane]

Speaking of cops with real work to do, I asked an LA cop a question yesterday. There are a lot of one way streets where you can make a left from the left corner, staying near the sidewalk. A lot of people treat this like a right hand turn and make the turn at a red light. I see people do it A LOT. But you cant apparently. Its technically running a red light, $700 ticket.

Yep. If there's no sign permitting it, not allowed to happen.

[enkeivette]

False, its never allowed to happen.

[Shaolin Crane]

False, its never allowed to happen.

False. There are streets with signs permitting them on red lights.

[fiveohwblow]

I did it many times in downtown. Who cares.

[enkeivette]

False. There are streets with signs permitting them on red lights.

Sure ;)

[enkeivette]

I did it many times in downtown. Who cares.

HOPEFULLY no one.

[Shaolin Crane]

Favorite picture of my car I never posted, soon, real soon.
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/Mobile%20uploads/IMG_20130112_141802_632.jpg

[enkeivette]

Favorite picture of my car I never posted, soon, real soon.
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/ShaolinCrane/Dedicated%20Service/Mobile%20uploads/IMG_20130112_141802_632.jpg

Who makes a body kit for the Le Baron? :p

[enkeivette]

In all seriousness, I generally dont like Fox bodies, but I do like yours. Color, wheels, clear lights, all look cool.

You have amber lights in those clear lenses dont you? You criminal piece of shit

[Shaolin Crane]

Yeah I do, though technically not a change since the factory corner markers are half clear and half yellow and still have amber bulbs

[fiveohwblow]

*fart*

[Shaolin Crane]

AAA is sending me a $4100 check for the damages. Valued it at 10k, so no new truck. Gonna list the truck as-is for 5k and see if I get any bites

[enkeivette]

AAA is sending me a $4100 check for the damages. Valued it at 10k, so no new truck. Gonna list the truck as-is for 5k and see if I get any bites

Is it that hard to find a new fender/ bed for an old Ford?

[enkeivette]

I dont understand how people like watching/ care so much about sports. Its so boring. Why would you want to watch someone else play a game?

[Shaolin Crane]

Is it that hard to find a new fender/ bed for an old Ford?

Nope, a bed from the yard is about $250. Painter said $550 to paint it. I did not know however it was worth so much. I only paid 3k for it. So I listed it for 5k as-is and will see if anyone bites.

[Shaolin Crane]

I dont understand how people like watching/ care so much about sports. Its so boring. Why would you want to watch someone else play a game?
I don't either, i'd rather play the sport than watch it, with the Exception of the UFC. Completely different event. I do however LOVE sports season, the gym is fucking empty.

[blackax]

I don't either, i'd rather play the sport than watch it, with the Exception of the UFC. Completely different event. I do however LOVE sports season, the gym is fucking empty.

I agree with most sports, with the exception of auto raceing, For one thing I dont have the money to race let alone the skill, (or for the fact that im not in shape.)

[Shaolin Crane]

Listed the truck, with the damage for $5500 and I already have someone who wants it.

[Shaolin Crane]

Now I remember why I don't take my vehicles to shops. Since I am opting for self repair the shop is trying to ding me $811 in storage fees. Guess i'm gonna piss some people off.

[Shaolin Crane]

Might have a buyer lined up for the truck, if it goes through i'll be going to look at this bad boy and make him an offer he'll likely refuse
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4020038578.html

[enkeivette]

Might have a buyer lined up for the truck, if it goes through i'll be going to look at this bad boy and make him an offer he'll likely refuse
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4020038578.html

Haha, nice.

Let me know how you get the truck back, sounds like it will be fun.

[Shaolin Crane]

Disagree, he doesnt like Supras or Corvettes, but he has dreams of Fords rip off of the Le Baron.

Next he'll be talking about how boobs are disgusting, chocolate is gross, and Scarlett Johansen is ugly.

Chocolate is gross

[Vettezuki]

What most people think of as chocolate is some sort of burnt chemical sugar concoction, not chocolate. The good shit is awesome (and healthy).

[Shaolin Crane]

I have had "good" expensive chocolate and I do not like. Not a sweets fan, however beef jerkey is the business.

[Vettezuki]

I have had "good" expensive chocolate and I do not like. Not a sweets fan, however beef jerkey is the business.

The fact you use "sweets" and chocolate in the same sentence indicates you probably haven't had good chocolate. I'm not saying you'd like the real deal anyway, but it ain't sweets, or candy. And no, price by itself don't matter too much. That's a perceived value and marketing thing.

I like jerky too. When I was a kid growing up in the inland empire there was a nice old lady who ran this little store all by herself. Among other things she sold her own homemade jerky. It was great. I never had any other jerky quite like it. It was on the thick side and she left some fat trimmings on it, which amazingly weren't rancid or nasty, mixed with just the right blend of pepper and spices. Feeling nostalgic.

[enkeivette]

HAHHAHA I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers but I also wouldn't trade her for my wife.


Also, I don't like chocolate much because I don't bleed out of my mid section monthly. Boobs are in the top 3 things God invented. Also you missed where I sold the fox. I'm still bummed about it asshole.

Lastly, I've never liked them aesthetically and have always acknowledged their performance. I was just rustling some jimmies. Whenever you tell a car guy you don't like their choices it's almost equal to being caught in bed when their wife. I find it rather humorous.

I know you sold it, but you still jerk off to your avatar.

[enkeivette]

I like jerky too. When I was a kid growing up in the inland empire there was a nice ...lady who ran... all by herself. Among other things ...It was great. I never had any other jerky quite like it. Feeling nostalgic.

...

[fiveohwblow]

I know you sold it, but you still jerk off to your avatar.

Should I change it to 3200 lbs of plastic just for you?

[fiveohwblow]

I have had "good" expensive chocolate and I do not like. Not a sweets fan, however beef jerkey is the business.

This.

[Shaolin Crane]

The fact you use "sweets" and chocolate in the same sentence indicates you probably haven't had good chocolate. I'm not saying you'd like the real deal anyway, but it ain't sweets, or candy. And no, price by itself don't matter too much. That's a perceived value and marketing thing.

I like jerky too. When I was a kid growing up in the inland empire there was a nice old lady who ran this little store all by herself. Among other things she sold her own homemade jerky. It was great. I never had any other jerky quite like it. It was on the thick side and she left some fat trimmings on it, which amazingly weren't rancid or nasty, mixed with just the right blend of pepper and spices. Feeling nostalgic.

I have had the same conversation with other people about chocolate "you haven't had good stuff, try this" and I don't care for it. Jerkey on the other hand, we make at least 10-20 pounds of our own each month, man I love it.

[Vettezuki]

I have had the same conversation with other people about chocolate "you haven't had good stuff, try this" and I don't care for it. Jerkey on the other hand, we make at least 10-20 pounds of our own each month, man I love it.

You'll note my usage of the phrase, " I'm not saying you'd like the real deal anyway."

[Shaolin Crane]

You'll note my usage of the phrase, " I'm not saying you'd like the real deal anyway."

I saw it, preemptive to additional posts

[enkeivette]

I have had the same conversation with other people about chocolate "you haven't had good stuff, try this" and I don't care for it. Jerkey on the other hand, we make at least 10-20 pounds of our own each month, man I love it.

I say you prob havent had it... I fuckin love chocolate, heard of the real stuff and even I havent had the opp.

But nevertheless I supersize with your point. People say the same thing to me about Sushi. Oh thats cuz youve never had the good stuff from my place... False. All sushi is gross.

[fiveohwblow]

I say you prob havent had it... I fuckin love chocolate, heard of the real stuff and even I havent had the opp.

But nevertheless I supersize with your point. People say the same thing to me about Sushi. Oh thats cuz youve never had the good stuff from my place... False. All sushi is gross.

I'd just tell you it's because you have shitty taste.

[Vettezuki]

I say you prob havent had it... I fuckin love chocolate, heard of the real stuff and even I havent had the opp.

But nevertheless I supersize with your point. People say the same thing to me about Sushi. Oh thats cuz youve never had the good stuff from my place... False. All sushi is gross.

There are reasonable questions of quality within something, like chocolate or sushi. There's nothing meaningful to say about whether chocolate or sushi in themselves are gross or not. It's like saying, "I don't like purple!" Uhh, ok. . .

[enkeivette]

There are reasonable questions of quality within something, like chocolate or sushi. There's nothing meaningful to say about whether chocolate or sushi in themselves are gross or not. It's like saying, "I don't like purple!" Uhh, ok. . .

Subjective, yes of course. But I dont care, Sushi is gross.

Justin, that doesnt mean much from the guy who dislikes 4th gen Supras and Z06s. :)

[fiveohwblow]

Subjective, yes of course. But I dont care, Sushi is gross.

Justin, that doesnt mean much from the guy who dislikes 4th gen Supras and Plastic fantastics. :)

FTFY

[enkeivette]

FTFY

Fuck that and fuck you. You have your own code, but I crack it. You cant keep me out of your tea parties motha fucka

[fiveohwblow]

Fuck that and fuck you. You have your own code, but I crack it. You cant keep me out of your tea parties motha fucka

ROFL!!

[Shaolin Crane]

Subjective, yes of course. But I dont care, Sushi is gross.

Justin, that doesnt mean much from the guy who dislikes 4th gen Supras and Z06s. :)

Concure about the supras

[Vettezuki]

One of the things I'm really interested in is a subject called Permaculture. Long story short it's basically a kind of system landscape design mixed with integrated biodynamics. Think of having a property and considering every aspect of every element, type of buildinging, orientation to the sun (winter and summer), water hydrology, on and on. I'm completing a course now, and worked up this rough Sketchup. I love deserts and the idea of sort of altering them into more productive/oasis type environments, which amazingly can be done with a handful of design principles and time. Anyway, here's my Sketchup export.

Sketchup Export v2 - YouTube

[Shaolin Crane]

My house will have no plants, concrete everything and a large wall all the way around. Likely a garage 5x the size of the house too.

[Vettezuki]

It's indicative of your numerous pathologies. :nutkick:

[enkeivette]

One of the things I'm really interested in is a subject called Permaculture. Long story short it's basically a kind of system landscape design mixed with integrated biodynamics. Think of having a property and considering every aspect of every element, type of buildinging, orientation to the sun (winter and summer), water hydrology, on and on. I'm completing a course now, and worked up this rough Sketchup. I love deserts and the idea of sort of altering them into more productive/oasis type environments, which amazingly can be done with a handful of design principles and time. Anyway, here's my Sketchup export.

Sketchup Export v2 - YouTube

Thats really cool, minus the fact that you forgot to include naked lady servants.

You think one windmill would produce enough electricity for a home? I could believe it, my mom used to have a solar powered water heater. How do you keep the spring water free of enough bacteria and organisms to land you in an interesting episode of House MD?