View Full Version : Getting ready for the Supercharger/ Install
enkeivette
01-02-2008, 08:35 PM
Today I started to remove my rubber hose fuel line, as I will have thrice the pressure under boost and I don't trust a rubber hose to handle high pressure fuel. I started by grinding the barb off of the BG dual feed fuel line, I slipped a brass fitting over the end and flared the pipe. There was just barely enough room to do this. The new screw in type fuel filter may not fit where I intended it to go. It looks like the alternator (which I am moving to the passenger side to make room for the Procharger) might get into the way.
Then I removed the alternator and the power steering pump and the crank pulleys. Then I installed the supercharger pulley, it sits very close to the front cross member, it's too tight to fit the v-belt in there so I will have to install a shorter trans mount to tilt the motor back.
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Vettezuki
01-02-2008, 09:23 PM
Ah, the joys of doing something different. If you get the chance, some pics would help make your special hell live. :dancenana:
enkeivette
01-03-2008, 10:52 PM
Did my pics not show up here?
Well I tried mounting the alternator today only to realize that the passenger side mount that I bought will not work with my water pump. I am going to call ATI tomorrow to see if I can do this with a short water pump setup, otherwise I will have to buy a long water pump.
Vettezuki
01-03-2008, 11:09 PM
Did my pics not show up here?
You're cool, I was connected to a vpn that blocked the source.
enkeivette
01-13-2008, 04:43 PM
OK... I bent and flared my own 3/8" hardline, if that's too small the next step is garden hose. :D I had to move the filter down because after I moved the alternator to the passenger side I had no room for it.
So you can also see the alternator on the passenger side in these pics along with my new long water pump. You can also see (red arrow) the fitting I installed for a boost reference port on my fuel pump. (This is so that fuel will increase 1 psi for every pound of boost).
I discovered that I needed offset pulleys from ATI for the water pump and the alternator to line up with the 12 rib pulley. They are in the mail.
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Lots of o-rings and silicone, I hope it seals. :o We'll find out when my pulleys get here.
enkeivette
01-16-2008, 07:08 PM
Test fit today, I'm going to have to move the hood prop to the passenger side and cut away some of the hood support, and possibly some of the hood. ;) I have a jet ski hood prop on order. I also lengthened the alternator wires and got some of the hoses back on, including the boost reference port. And I removed all of my power steering components, except for the control valve which I will probably change to a manual link when I get the chance.
I'm thinking that I might clock the supercharger face down more, so that the outlet is blowing on the valve cover. If it clears the valve cover and I can fit a flex joint in there, I may get away without having to cut my hood. Knock on wood. I will also be cutting the lower corner of the SC bracket off, as it sits too close to the control arm for my liking.
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enkeivette
01-17-2008, 11:46 PM
I installed the alternator and water pump pulleys today, found the right length belt and fired up the motor. No fuel leaks, no coolant leaks. :D I also polished the alterntor, check out the difference. I noticed that the alternator doesn't charge at idle anymore, probably because the ATI pulley underdrives it. Oh well... I also blew air into the boost reference hose, the fuel pressure increased from 6psi to 8 psi. Good thing I bought the SC, my lungs only put out a wimpy 2 psi. :laugh:
I also chased and found an electrical demon, but that's another story.
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Vettezuki
01-18-2008, 01:15 AM
. . . I also blew air into the boost reference hose, the fuel pressure increased from 6psi to 8 psi.
Holy crap. I sometimes forget how little pressure is needed for carburation.
enkeivette
01-18-2008, 09:48 PM
Clocked the supercharger forward today, so that the outlet shoots over the valve cover but doesn't hit the hood. Then I removed my hood prop and cut some of the support away, believe it or not I am able to close my hood. The SC pulley rattles on the hood when the engine is running, so tomorrow I'm going to shave some of the thickness of the hood down. If that doesn't work, solid motor mounts?
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Check out my sweet hood prop.
enkeivette
01-22-2008, 06:54 PM
Works better than a broom stick. :bigthumbsup: $20 shipped, for a waverunner. I epoxied a metal angle under the fiberglass lip that the prop bolts to. Prob didn't need it, but it couldn't hurt.
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No more progress for now, waiting on parts in the mail.
enkeivette
01-27-2008, 04:39 PM
Well I installed the solid motor mount and the engine sits too high. The pulley once again touches the hood, even put a little tiny crack in the hood when I closed it. So I'm going to cut the ears off of the other mount and have my friend weld them 1/2" higher to lower the motor. Hopefully that will solve the problem, if it sits too low I might have to cut more of the SC bracket off.
BTW I installed the mount today, outside, on my back... in the rain. Someone tell me how cool I am. :D
Vettezuki
01-27-2008, 04:50 PM
. . . BTW I installed the mount today, outside, on my back... in the rain. Someone tell me how cool I am. :D
Can cool be considered a euphemism for developmentally challenged . . . ?
:p
[EDIT] No sooner had I posted this then enkeivette (totally independently) posted this:
I'm on the right
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enkeivette
01-27-2008, 05:52 PM
Can cool be considered a euphemism for developmentally challenged . . . ?
:p
[EDIT] No sooner had I posted this then enkeivette (totally independently) posted this:
Hey, I'll have you know our collective IQ is practically in the triple digits!
enkeivette
01-29-2008, 08:54 PM
Here's the offset mount. Moved the motor down about 3/8" The SC pulley no longer touches the hood, but it's still real close. So I might lengthen two (sets) of the bolt holes on the SC bracket to allow it to pivot off of the inner most bolt and swing down a bit.
Not sure if the pulley is going to move around and hit the hood. I can't start the motor because I started one of those "while I'm at it..." projects. When I was under the car I noticed that my clutch master bracket had a crack in it as it had rusted. So I took it out and I'm in the process of making a much thicker one out of 3/16" stainless steel. Stuff is hard to bend by hand.
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enkeivette
02-03-2008, 11:03 PM
Thanks to Ben's awesome welding skills (my clutch master bracket is done) I can start working on the SC again. :)
enkeivette
02-08-2008, 10:02 PM
Well my camera broke which is why I haven't uploaded any pics recently. So I'll tell you what I've done. I took the secondary jets out (78s) and used them to replace my primary jets (69s). Then I installed 88s as the new secondary jets. And this is an annular carb which is why the jets are smaller than you'd think.
I swapped sides with the crankcase breather and the PCV. The PCV gets suction from the intake tube as under boost... well there's boost, no vacuum. I hooked up all of the vacuum fittings, putting a hose clamp on every single one of them. The boost guage is not yet mounted, it's just sitting on my passenger seat with the vacuum hose trailing in from the window.
I installed the air filter and the carb bonnet (check out how close the filter is to the MC) and found that there was no room for the BOV. So I got a flexible plumbing pipe and routed it underneath the boost pipe. (I think that this is causing a loss of boost as it's flexing, I plan to have the BOV pipe cut off and welded to the other side.
Installed the belt. Tension for the D1SC was set according to advise from an ATI tech: Grab the longest strech of belt with two fingers, pull up, it should move 1/2"
The video kinda sucks, the audio is delayed and it ends short. But I'll get a video of it in action as soon as I get someone stupid enough to jump in the car with me that will hold the camera.
Video at idle (http://www.youtube.com/v/A6usnTkbTBI&rel=1)
Here are some still shots.
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Specs:
383ci SBC. 9.4:1 Forged Scat Crank & Forged Scat 6" Rods, Forged Aluminum SRP Pistons, AFR 195cc Aluminum Angle Plug Heads w/8032 Upgrade, Comp Hyd Roller Cam & Lifters .520 in .540 ex Lift, 236in 242ex Duration @ .05, Comp Chromeoly Pushrods, Full Roller Rockers, Edelbrock Victor Jr, MSD Pro Billet HEI and a Mighty Demon 750 Annular, Procharger D1SC 4" pulley, T56, Spec Kevlar Clutch, Centerforce Flywheel, Long Tube Headers and Dual 3" Pipes, 3.55 LSD
Vettezuki
02-08-2008, 10:28 PM
Dude, we need to take some peyote, go on a Vision Quest and figure out how to get some nice air to your intake.
PS I need some pics or come and visit to see how your headers fit. I've got a mad Jones for American Racing Headers, which look like they'll fit, but I'm not 100% sure.
We can also help you make some swing'n vids.
enkeivette
02-08-2008, 10:44 PM
Yeah tell me about it, this setup wasn't very accommodating to my air filter. Which in turn is not very accommodating of my BOV.
enkeivette
02-12-2008, 03:42 AM
I found a U shaped 1 1/2" PCV pipe that I used to replace that rubber BOV joint. Works much better. It feels a little stronger and the BOV is louder, which means probably that the rubber hose is absorbing less of the boost impact.
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