RX-Snake: Body, Paint, Name, Logos

[enkeivette]

BTW, you might want to try a pressure washer to remove all of that rubber coating. Get up close with it and I'll bet you could blast it off.

[big2bird]

Posted on the autobody forums about this. I really think you don't know what you're getting yourself into if you expect to sand the whole interior.

I would consider the following alternatives:
Lizard skin
Splatter paint/trunk paint
Satin black wrinkle paint
Battleship Gray enamel
Spray on Bedliner material

[big2bird]

I vote for lexan/ open/ or a net. It'll save time, weight, cost, and you can sell that top on e-bay for prob a decent amount.

After thinking about this, I would vote to weld it in, or lexan. The weight savings would be far negated by the loss of aerodynamics.

[Vettezuki]

BTW, you might want to try a pressure washer to remove all of that rubber coating. Get up close with it and I'll bet you could blast it off.

The rubberized coating is gone. What do you think I am, some kind of flake? ;)

[Vettezuki]

After thinking about this, I would vote to weld it in, or lexan. The weight savings would be far negated by the loss of aerodynamics.

Probably Lexan, or possibly bare carbon fiber as I think I'm going to begin exploring that material.

[Leedom]

Spray on Bedliner material

Exactly what I was thinking. It is very durable, helps to keep heat and sound out and in my mind fairly inexpensive. :thumbs_up:

[Vettezuki]

Exactly what I was thinking. It is very durable, helps to keep heat and sound out and in my mind fairly inexpensive. :thumbs_up:

No spray in bedliner. You're going to be assaulted by heat, sound, vibration, and generalized violence.

[Vettezuki]

My brother and I worked again no Friday for a while on the front bumper and still more stripping and cleaning. We also shaved the rear bumper a bit more and began thinking about some shaping. I'm pretty sure I'm going to cut out a relief for a diffuser. I also cleaned the old 13B and 5 Spd. more. It's almost presentable. I kinda want to keep it and use it in some other future weirdo death cart, but storage is an issue and some cash would be nice. Anywho, here's the time lapse (http://www.motorgen.com//vid/showphoto.php/photo/924)

This was using an actual quite high quality camera as opposed to futzing with video. Eventually I'll get the process dialed in to be fast and cool looking.

[enkeivette]

Bumper looks cool, I was thinking we'd cut off those lower quarter fenders and flare it out. Have you guys decided against that?

[Vettezuki]

Bumper looks cool, I was thinking we'd cut off those lower quarter fenders and flare it out. Have you guys decided against that?


Yes. We'll follow the stock line there. It's actually a good flow. The part when complete will in fact be a true bolt on.

[Vettezuki]

Any of you guys got a hook up on cardboard for modeling. You know, that single ply semi rigid stuff you use before going to harder stuff like wood. I'm gonna start mocking up the dash panel and gauge cluster.

[94cobra69ss396]

Any of you guys got a hook up on cardboard for modeling. You know, that single ply semi rigid stuff you use before going to harder stuff like wood. I'm gonna start mocking up the dash panel and gauge cluster.

I have a thin piece of aluminm that I'll bring you tomorrow when I come by that you can use. I don't remember what the thickness is but it is what the NHRA required as a minimum for my rear deck and back. I also used it to make my door panels and instrument panel.

[Vettezuki]

I have a thin piece of aluminm that I'll bring you tomorrow when I come by that you can use. I don't remember what the thickness is but it is what the NHRA required as a minimum for my rear deck and back. I also used it to make my door panels and instrument panel.

Great. If you have a current NHRA rule book bring it too and we'll ponder a few questions. At present I'm thinking to use Carbon Fiber for the instrument panel, roof cutout and a diffuser under the bumper.

[94cobra69ss396]

Great. If you have a current NHRA rule book bring it too and we'll ponder a few questions. At present I'm thinking to use Carbon Fiber for the instrument panel, roof cutout and a diffuser under the bumper.

I do not have one. I got the spec from the Tech guy at Fontana when he told me I had to install one for the N2O.

[Vettezuki]

I do not have one. I got the spec from the Tech guy at Fontana when he told me I had to install one for the N2O.

No sweat. What time you thinking to roll by? I'm basically here all day.

[94cobra69ss396]

No sweat. What time you thinking to roll by? I'm basically here all day.

Not sure. It depends on how busy work is. I'll give you a call before I head out of here.

[Vettezuki]

Not sure. It depends on how busy work is. I'll give you a call before I head out of here.

If it makes any difference, noonish to mid/late afternoon is slightly preferable for me (cuz I be sleep'n in) but heading back out to Fontana in traffic would be Satanic for you. So, as you please.

[94cobra69ss396]

If it makes any difference, noonish to mid/late afternoon is slightly preferable for me (cuz I be sleep'n in) but heading back out to Fontana in traffic would be Satanic for you. So, as you please.

It will definately be later afternoon.

[Leedom]

I have been thinking about this idea for a while now. I love it even more than when it was in my head. Designed with the current trend of reviving style and designs of yesteryear with a modern twist on it. Perfect for the project of old American with new"er" import car. What do you guys think?

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/639/RX-Snake-Paint-01.jpg

I am going to go to bed now!:nuts:

[Vettezuki]

I have been thinking about this idea for a while now. I love it even more than when it was in my head. Designed with the current trend of reviving style and designs of yesteryear with a modern twist on it. Perfect for the project of old American with new"er" import car. What do you guys think?

I am going to go to bed now!:nuts:

Thanks for your hard work.

The following is more along the lines of my thoughts/intention:

Where you have the "RX-SNAKE" insert the logo above the line, indentation, whatever you call that.

On the door, over the line insert Motorgen.com (the font we use) in candy orange.

Try some kind of dark grey / black snake skin pattern in the line/indentation

Give a blue pearl flavor to the white, if possible. (I'm pretty much settled on putting glow in the dark pigment in the blue pearl :toocool:).

Make the sun roof section carbon fiber.

The mirrors black.

Blend out the light flaps.

[BRUTAL64]

I have been thinking about this idea for a while now. I love it even more than when it was in my head. Designed with the current trend of reviving style and designs of yesteryear with a modern twist on it. Perfect for the project of old American with new"er" import car. What do you guys think?

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/639/RX-Snake-Paint-01.jpg

I am going to go to bed now!:nuts:


Hey, that is great.:bigthumbsup:

[enkeivette]

Looks too fem, blue stripes need to be darker and... metallic? Pearl? Candy? Baby blue just doesn't do it for me. Maybe black pin striping.

The front bumper looks sweet, and pics? Any progress on the rear? I'm in finals season right now... I forget my name sometimes, but I'll be out in a few weeks! And I'll come out to play. :D

I'd like to smooth out the front bumper fender transition, so don't waste all of that green filler. If you guys want, you can glue the front bumper in place and start grinding a groove.

You'll need metal to glass epoxy, scuff up mating surfaces with 80-120, glue the crap out of both sides, and quickly quickly racing the clock bolt it down snug. You will get messy and the glue dries fast. Don't worry about if it squeezes otu everywhere, that will all be taken down later when we prep it to be molded in.

[enkeivette]

Weld in those head light skins too Ben! Make it happen! Weld em to the hood.

[Vettezuki]

Weld in those head light skins too Ben! Make it happen! Weld em to the hood.

One of them is already done pumpkin.

[Vettezuki]

. . . Any progress on the rear?

What I want to do is finally crystalizing in my mind's eye. I made a template for the diffuser cutout yesterday, and I'm gonna keep pondering.

Not quit this elaborate, but something like:
http://www.autosavant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ferrari-f430-scuderia-rear.jpg

I'd like to smooth out the front bumper fender transition, so don't waste all of that green filler. If you guys want, you can glue the front bumper in place and start grinding a groove.

I'm not sure. So far, we've been making a bolt-on part and I kinda like it. Don't have to decide yet. If I'm compelled to think a seamless transition will look better, that's what we'll do.

[enkeivette]

I have been thinking about this idea for a while now. I love it even more than when it was in my head. Designed with the current trend of reviving style and designs of yesteryear with a modern twist on it. Perfect for the project of old American with new"er" import car. What do you guys think?

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/639/RX-Snake-Paint-01.jpg

I am going to go to bed now!:nuts:

She really needs something sticking out of the hood, or a big ass cowl or scoop. Yeah... big ass scoop.

And Ben, you are lame for not wanting to mold the bumper in. Lame. It's a race car, it has no future purpose or practicality. If I went to Del Taco and asked for some hot sauce as weak as Ben, they would say "nope, sorry, no sauce here that weak." Weak sauce.

[Vettezuki]

She really needs something sticking out of the hood, or a big ass cowl or scoop. Yeah... big ass scoop.

There will be.

And Ben, you are lame for not wanting to mold the bumper in. Lame. It's a race car, it has no future purpose or practicality. If I went to Del Taco and asked for some hot sauce as weak as Ben, they would say "nope, sorry, no sauce here that weak." Weak sauce.

Any knuckle-dragging mouth-breather can mold a part in. It takes skill to fabricate a new bolt-on part. :)

[joedls]

I have been thinking about this idea for a while now. I love it even more than when it was in my head. Designed with the current trend of reviving style and designs of yesteryear with a modern twist on it. Perfect for the project of old American with new"er" import car. What do you guys think?

http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/639/RX-Snake-Paint-01.jpg

I am going to go to bed now!:nuts:


Maybe something like this

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/joedls/bluestripes.jpg

[BRUTAL64]

Maybe something like this

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/joedls/bluestripes.jpg

Hey, Joe that looks good.:drink:

[Vettezuki]

Your guys' attempt at peer pressure is cute. :)

[Vettezuki]

Maybe something like this

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/joedls/bluestripes.jpg

Aha, the photo didn't show up at work. That's a pretty slick presentation of the racing stripe theme. Here's my basic problem with the stripes on the FC. The Mustangs you guys are showing for references, where it is admittedly pretty badd ass looking have a lot of dimensionality (for lack of a better word); lots of curves and angles creating visual interest. Such stripes never appealed to me that much on cars that have a lot more in the way of simple large flat surfaces.

[enkeivette]

I'm with Joe, stripes need to be bigger. I'm thinking intercoat candy blue... yeah. That would give it some dimension.

Ben, it may also be more difficult to date a 320lb 6' 2 dikey lesbian than your highschool prom queen, but just because something is more difficult to accomplish doesn't always mean that it's better.

[Vettezuki]

I'm with Joe, stripes need to be bigger. I'm thinking intercoat candy blue... yeah. That would give it some dimension.

Ben, it may also be more difficult to date a 320lb 6' 2 dikey lesbian than your highschool prom queen, but just because something is more difficult to accomplish doesn't always mean that it's better.

Category mistake :p

[enkeivette]

Category mistake :p

It was an analogy, don't see any category mistake.

Although one does require bolts in holes while the other requires pressing seems together.

[Vettezuki]

It was an analogy, don't see any category mistake.

Although one does require bolts in holes while the other requires pressing seems together.

In order for an analogy to be valid the objects/concept being compared need to share comparable properties for the purpose of drawing an inference, cognitively speaking. More properly, you made a joke in the form of a false analogy.

I still tend to think of it as a category mistake because "A category mistake, or category error, is a semantic or ontological error by which a property is ascribed to a thing that could not possibly have that property." Dating a 6'2" dikey lesbian does not inherently possess the property of being difficult, or requiring skill. The notion of being difficult or requiring skill doesn't apply in the same sense at all and furthermore is entirely dependent on the other person's perspective as they may be into that sort of thing. :)


Anywho, Leedom, how bout some new mock-ups with bigger bolder stripes a la enkei and joe, and my basic idea around the non-striped version (logos, snake skin, cf, etc.))?

[Leedom]

I have not been home in afew days. Work has been busy. I put a 11 hour day in yesterday in fact. I should have time this weekend to get some things mocked-up though.

[Vettezuki]

I have not been home in afew days. Work has been busy. I put a 11 hour day in yesterday in fact. I should have time this weekend to get some things mocked-up though.

:drink:

[enkeivette]

In order for an analogy to be valid the objects/concept being compared need to share comparable properties for the purpose of drawing an inference, cognitively speaking. ASSumption More properly, you made a joke in the form of a false analogy. False. Conclusion depends upon your assumption.

I still tend to think of it as a category mistake because "A category mistake, or category error, is a semantic or ontological error by which a property is ascribed to a thing that could not possibly have that property." Dating a 6'2" dikey lesbian does not inherently possess the property of being difficult, or requiring skill. So then, a male, attempting to date a lesbian... would have no difficulty? Do I need to find the Lewis Black url?

The notion of being difficult or requiring skill doesn't apply in the same sense at all and furthermore is entirely dependent on the other person's perspective as they may be into that sort of thing. :) Agreed!!! That was my point dick! :thumbs_up:


See:
Ben, it may also be more difficult to date a 320lb 6' 2 dikey lesbian than your highschool prom queen, but just because something is more difficult to accomplish doesn't always mean that it's better.

In case you forgot, this is what I was responding to.

Any knuckle-dragging mouth-breather can mold a part in. It takes skill to fabricate a new bolt-on part. :)


I'm talking about aesthetics, so your response to my artistic suggestion (having to do with skill) was inappropriate IMO, which I very appropriately displayed in my analogy. I see the labor having nothing to do with the beauty of the fruits. Does this one work for ya?

Don't even try to suggest that a molding has to do with anything other than aesthetics.

[Vettezuki]

. . .I'm talking about aesthetics, so your response to my artistic suggestion (having to do with skill) was inappropriate IMO, which I very appropriately displayed in my analogy. I see the labor having nothing to do with the beauty of the fruits. Does this one work for ya? . . .

Now we're reading from the same music sweet pea. :D In principle I have no objection to molding it in actually. It'll still be a bolt on part. What you see as the bumper now, is not even the mold. It's just the unfinished pattern for the mold. We're building skills and knowledge. :thumbs_up:

[Leedom]

Ok Kids, more late night fun. Please remember these are very rough and the colros are not perfect. I was thinking the glow in the dark pigment could go into the Blue Stripes.

Scheme 2A
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/639/RX-Snake-Paint-02.jpg

Scheme 2B (blue Snake Skin Stripes)
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/639/RX-Snake-Paint-02B.jpg

[big2bird]

Ok Kids, more late night fun. Please remember these are very rough and the colros are not perfect. I was thinking the glow in the dark pigment could go into the Blue Stripes.

Scheme 2A
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/639/RX-Snake-Paint-02.jpg

Scheme 2B (blue Snake Skin Stripes)
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/639/RX-Snake-Paint-02B.jpg

I like it, sans the wipers and mirrors of course.:hail::hail:

[enkeivette]

I'm with Bird. Mirrors need to go, seams need to go, door handles need to go.

I'm no airbrush artist, so those reptile stripes need to be vinyls. Don't know how successfully we can clear over vinyls that large. Def would want to try a test panel.

[Leedom]

The vinyl that it would be printed on would not be than thick. We could try it. I think the snake skin could add a nice subtle look to the paint. I am voting on filling in the grove on the side of the car where that plastic pice was. I can agree with the Mirrors and wipers but I like the idea of having door handles just in case.

[enkeivette]

The vinyl that it would be printed on would not be than thick. We could try it. I think the snake skin could add a nice subtle look to the paint. I am voting on filling in the grove on the side of the car where that plastic pice was. I can agree with the Mirrors and wipers but I like the idea of having door handles just in case.

Another vote to fill the molding.

The issue with the vinyl is not the thickness, I'm worried about clear adhesion. With a small vinyl, or lots of holes in a vinyl design, the clear doesn't need to support itself over such a huge area. With smaller stuff, or more points of contact, kinda sticks to itself.

This thing still has wipers? Thought we were building a race car. When do we install the subs?

[enkeivette]

http://i41.tinypic.com/xlk03q.jpg

[enkeivette]

Adam, make the stripes bigger. I need to study and I'm incompetent w/ paint.

[Vettezuki]

Questions:
- Uh, how does one get in the car without door handles of some kind? :huh:
- What about using a vinyl as a stencil for airbrushing the snakeskin pattern?

Statements:
- wipers will be gone for sure
- no real objection to filling the section where the molding was
- not sure about mirrors, I actually kind of like them, but I'm not married to them
- no real objection to blending in the front/rear bumpers and I can see enkei is gonna whine incessantly if we don't, sow he's volunteered himself for that task

Suggestions:
- try one large straight stripe with snake pattern
- try one large wavy stripe with snake pattern (like a snake moving)
- for striping on side, don't care for words RX-SNAKE with logo directly above. If it were purely a graphic logo, wouldn't mind (a la Cobras), but both start with RX

[enkeivette]

Think we'd need something called "sign painters mask"? Like stickey paper. We draw out the pattern, two or three hours afters after spraying the base we lay it on, shoot intercoat, before it dries, peel it off, spray clear.

Ben, so far it's mainly your dime and Joes, so if you want to paint the car pink I'll spray it. But I'll give you my thoughts on what that suggests about your sexuality while I'm doing it. It's your call, but I reserve the right to express my opinion expressly. So suck it. :)

I have no problem molding in the bumpers by myself, that shit is fun. I don't enjoy doing tedious sanding especially in tight places like molding recesses, door jambs, or the entire interior. :o

I'll lay the glass, form the bumper and mold the shit all by myself if you want, no problem with that.

[Vettezuki]

. . . But I'll give you my thoughts on what that suggests about your sexuality while I'm doing it. It's your call, but I reserve the right to express my opinion expressly.

If you didn't I'd never listen to you. And aren't you the one with the Costco size jar of Vaseline next to your computer and many questionable pics on your MySpace page . . . you know, before your account was deleted.

I have no problem molding in the bumpers by myself, that shit is fun.

I'll be delighted to provide as much fun as possible.

I'll lay the glass, form the bumper and mold the shit all by myself if you want, no problem with that.

The front bumper will be a bolt-on level part. You can mold it in. I'll do what I can with the rear bumper until you're free from all that fancy book learning.

[enkeivette]

Foam that shit up sucka!

[enkeivette]

Ben, I'll be around this weedkend if you want to do some glassin. If you want to get it prepared, take some 2x4s and stand them up near the rear bumper to get an idea of how much to foam it. Then foam it so it'll be ready for us to shape.

[Vettezuki]

Ben, I'll be around this weedkend if you want to do some glassin. If you want to get it prepared, take some 2x4s and stand them up near the rear bumper to get an idea of how much to foam it. Then foam it so it'll be ready for us to shape.

We're deep into it homeslice. I'll take a picture later tonight, but this weekend is a bit shot for me.

[enkeivette]

We're deep into it homeslice. I'll take a picture later tonight, but this weekend is a bit shot for me.

Things gonna be painted before I know it! :beer: I'm in NY next week, then after that I'll be free as a bee if you need mee. Don't forget, I know how to do mechanical shtuff too.

[Vettezuki]

Things gonna be painted before I know it! :beer: I'm in NY next week, then after that I'll be free as a bee if you need mee. Don't forget, I know how to do mechanical shtuff too.

There will be plenty to do. Looking forward to your return ;)

[enkeivette]

There will be plenty to do. Looking forward to your return ;)

Is that red white and blue respirator still over there? Be nice with it, I need to plastic weld that strap and return it to Eric's dad.

[Vettezuki]

Is that red white and blue respirator still over there? Be nice with it, I need to plastic weld that strap and return it to Eric's dad.

Yes.

[SeanPlunk]

After Angeles Crest I'll be ready to dive back in too. I miss working on it.

[Vettezuki]

After Angeles Crest I'll be ready to dive back in too. I miss working on it.

Good to hear. I've tried to kick the ball down the field as best I can on various parts while keeping some good old fashioned knuckle-dragger work ready for a group day.

[Vettezuki]

Just a few pics of the front and rear bumper fab status. These are still just the bucks (patterns) in a fairly rough status. The molds will be cast from these and finally the parts from the molds.

Front Bumper:
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/771/060709_5.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/771/060709_1.JPG


Rear bumper: You can see the basic shape and the space made for the diffuser. Yes. We're going to have a slick under carriage diffuser.


http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/771/060709_4.JPG

The spare tire well will be cut out and a piece of square tubing welded in to replace what was the rear bumper structural member.
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/771/060709_3.JPG
http://www.motorgen.com/pic/data/771/060709_2.JPG

[enkeivette]

You guys rock! :hail:

Not sure if you guys have an action plan for the flanges. I was going to cut a groove around the foam, and dip the edge of the glass into the groove, pop it off, then lay pieces from the back side and use pieces of wood to get the right angle.

:thumbs_up::thumbs_up::thumbs_up:



So are you guys going to run that wooden plastic glass bundle as the front bumper or just use it as a mold?

[Vettezuki]

You guys rock! :hail:

Not sure if you guys have an action plan for the flanges. I was going to cut a groove around the foam, and dip the edge of the glass into the groove, pop it off, then lay pieces from the back side and use pieces of wood to get the right angle.

:thumbs_up::thumbs_up::thumbs_up:



So are you guys going to run that wooden plastic glass bundle as the front bumper or just use it as a mold?

The front and back above is just a buck, not even the mold. We'll cast the mold off these "patterns".

Thanks for the suggestion on the flanges.

Flares:
We're considering not using any flares. My research indicates a 28x10 on a 9.5x15 is about the biggest wheel/tire comb we can get under there. I'm thinking a full 10" slick is enough for our modest 450~whp. I'd actually like this better, keeping the stock front and rear "flaring".

[Leedom]

Ben,

You and your brother are doing a great job! :thumbs_up: The pieces look good.

Flares:

Go big or go home!!! Flare those things and stick a fat tire under there. :smack:

[eric97srad]

bump:

I just read through this whole thread - I'm trying to catch up on everything with the project - I love all the ideas everyone has come up with. The body work looks great so far too :hail:

Any projection as far as paint time? I'll be back state-side in November and would really like to contribute with some of the "knuckle-dragger" work. I'll have nothing but time on my hands for at least a couple of months.

[Vettezuki]

bump:

I just read through this whole thread - I'm trying to catch up on everything with the project - I love all the ideas everyone has come up with. The body work looks great so far too :hail:

Any projection as far as paint time? I'll be back state-side in November and would really like to contribute with some of the "knuckle-dragger" work. I'll have nothing but time on my hands for at least a couple of months.

We'll see how things unfold over the summer and into the fall. I have limited control over my schedule and available funds are lean at the moment, so I'd say there's a decent chance there will still be something left to do around then. :thumbs_up:

[enkeivette]

Thought on the firewall. If you want it to look all pretty and special, rather than filling up those holes you should cut out a big piece, punch a hole for the steering and brakes and weld it or rivet it over or in place of the stock wall. Will look a lot more clean and save hours of welding and sanding and body work.

[Vettezuki]

Thought on the firewall. If you want it to look all pretty and special, rather than filling up those holes you should cut out a big piece, punch a hole for the steering and brakes and weld it or rivet it over or in place of the stock wall. Will look a lot more clean and save hours of welding and sanding and body work.

Don't think it'd blend with the many contours, studs and holes of the rest of the engine compartment. :huh: But I know where you're coming from.

[enkeivette]

That rear bumper is 5 mins away from being glass ready, have you guys done anything to it?

[Vettezuki]

That rear bumper is 5 mins away from being glass ready, have you guys done anything to it?

No. The rear bumper is your ball game. So when you coming over to cast a mold?

[big2bird]

Thought on the firewall. If you want it to look all pretty and special, rather than filling up those holes you should cut out a big piece, punch a hole for the steering and brakes and weld it or rivet it over or in place of the stock wall. Will look a lot more clean and save hours of welding and sanding and body work.

Good call Adam.:thumbs_up:

[kameleongt]

Let me know if YOU guys need any other supplies part #'s work best I should be able to give you close to my price on everything.

[Vettezuki]

Let me know if YOU guys need any other supplies part #'s work best I should be able to give you close to my price on everything.


I've got you in mind home slice. ;) BTW, can you check the correct ratio of the reducer to that primer?

[kameleongt]

I usually do 1 part ep210 to 1 part ex21 to half 1 reducer

[enkeivette]

When we did sealer on my car, we thinned the epoxy out till it looked right. Think we used more reducer than epoxy.

[kameleongt]

When we did sealer on my car, we thinned the epoxy out till it looked right. Think we used more reducer than epoxy.


that could be the case if so let me know i'll drop off some more reducer just let me know what I gave you.

[enkeivette]

Ben, go outside and turn the heat lamp on high, then move it around every hour.

Laid out the mold today. The first layer looked awesome, no air bubbles that I could see. The second layer looked good too, but the third layer looks kinda ugly, lots of air bubbles. I ran out of catalyst and I had to go to Home Depot to buy some more. Then it got dark as I was finishing, so I did my best in the dark. But it looked like alot of air bubbles formed under there, although it won't matter because it's more structural. The first layer is what's important for the mold.

Sorry about the trash everywhere. I spilled Laquer thinner on my hand and that mixed with catalyzed resin equals BURNING PAIN. Had to drive home quickly and wash it off. It was too dark anyways.

[enkeivette]

But yeah, we need more MEKP (resin catalyst). The tube I bought at Home Depot was the biggest they had, but not enough for what we're doing.

[big2bird]

Sorry about the trash everywhere. I spilled Laquer thinner on my hand and that mixed with catalyzed resin equals BURNING PAIN. Had to drive home quickly and wash it off. It was too dark anyways.

Try getting liquid catalyst in your eyes. Building a fish tank at 14 years old. Thought I might go blind.:lmfao:
I know the pain bro. Been there, done that.

[BRUTAL64]

Try getting liquid catalyst in your eyes. Building a fish tank at 14 years old. Thought I might go blind.:lmfao:
I know the pain bro. Been there, done that.

Didn't get it in the eyes, but just about everywhere else. Don't forget the fiberglass itch the goes on for days.:rolleyes:

[enkeivette]

Three days of work and no pics? :huh:

[Vettezuki]

Three days of work and no pics? :huh:

Yeah, sorry. This is the only one of the work you've done recently that I go.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/DSC_0287.JPG

[enkeivette]

Yeah, sorry. This is the only one of the work you've done recently that I go.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/DSC_0287.JPG

Next we need that glue that bonds fiberglass to metal. The stuff I bought to do my car bonded SMC to metal, but I'm willing to bet if SEM or someone makes a glass to metal glue it would be cheaper than what I used.

Mine was $50 a tube, so you might want to get Kameleon to hook you up with a discount or maybe score some online if it's cheaper.

If you don't want to bond the bumper to the metal I might be able to make the edges nice enough after some finessing to just bolt on with a seam, but that will take alot more time.

[big2bird]

Next we need that glue that bonds fiberglass to metal. The stuff I bought to do my car bonded SMC to metal, but I'm willing to bet if SEM or someone makes a glass to metal glue it would be cheaper than what I used.


Will Fusor work for you?

[enkeivette]

Will Fusor work for you?

:huh:

[big2bird]

:huh:

I have some here. Used it on the Vette. I am convinced you could glue a bowling ball to a Mig29 wing and have it stick.

[enkeivette]

I have some here. Used it on the Vette. I am convinced you could glue a bowling ball to a Mig29 wing and have it stick.

If it worked on SMC it'll stick to metal and glue. Thanks Bird. :beer:

[big2bird]

If it worked on SMC it'll stick to metal and glue. Thanks Bird. :beer:

I'll be around tomarrow. I'll set you up. Give me a ring.

[enkeivette]

I'll be around tomarrow. I'll set you up. Give me a ring.

I'd love to, but I'm in SD for school again.

[enkeivette]

Which reminds me, you guys (namely Ben who wants the freakin interior and engine bay painted) can sand shit and get the car ready to shoot. I'm not sanding the interior or the engine bay. If no one else wants to we can try a self etching primer.

That rear bumper is basically done. Just need to glass the edges on it and screw it in place. After one more day we can prime it if the hood is worked out. We don't need to wait on the front bumper since it's not going to be molded in. Unless you changed your mind about that.

You can also sand off any rust and spot prime it. Even with a rattle can if you're afraid of the hvlp gun.

[Vettezuki]

I posted this out in the regular forums to attract people to the project, but it should be here too.

Motorgen - Videos - RX-Snake Bumper Fab@@AMEPARAM@@value="file=/vid/data/547/Bumper.flv&@@AMEPARAM@@547@@AMEPARAM@@Bumper.flv

[enkeivette]

We should spray the light(s) with candy white to make it blend in with the paint.

[Vettezuki]

We should spray the light(s) with candy white to make it blend in with the paint.

Uhh, what lights? :sm_up_there:

[enkeivette]

Uhh, what lights? :sm_up_there:

The third brake light above the key for the hatch. Prob not worth the $30 tint for that one light I guess.

You have PM! Write me back, feel free to say no if a month is too long.

[Death Cult Aaronmageddon]

I'm back. Hey so I'll be done with school for the semester as of tomorrow, so I'll be able to finish the bumper soon. I do have to work on my beastie (my truck) too though. :thumbs_up:

[Vettezuki]

I'm back. Hey so I'll be done with school for the semester as of tomorrow, so I'll be able to finish the bumper soon. I do have to work on my beastie (my truck) too though. :thumbs_up:

Let's do this shit esse. Find a place to buy fiberglass and stuff on line and tell me how much we need. Sherfab moved to Ontario and they were more for boats anyway; it was all pretty have stuff.

This is about the only place I've found:
http://www.fiberglasssupply.com/
http://www.fiberglasssite.com/servlet/StoreFront

[Vettezuki]

Cracked out a good day.

Lee (ZegEx) and Adam (LS1Adam84) came for the first time and burned it up.

Here's some pics.

The current stage of the chassis. Gotta engineer a replacement for the rear bumper (structure). Have some ideas.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_09.jpg

ZegEx

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_01.jpg

The second part of our two part mold for the front bumper.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_11.jpg

The very stripped interior. That's all just flash rust, no problem.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_10.jpg

Adam meet grinder. Grinder, Adam.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_23.jpg

Looking sleepy.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_26.jpg

Very sleepy.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_27.jpg

There. Better.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_281.jpg


Fire. Fire.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_31.jpg

I'm an artist.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_34.jpg

After Sasquatch (a.k.a., Adam) tore through 12 pairs of gloves, he gets the hang of it.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_52.jpg

Two hands one cup.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_41.jpg

[Shaolin Crane]

nice work

[enkeivette]

Lookin good! Let me know when the back is cut and welded shut and I'll come by and glue that bumper on and we can spray some primer.

[Vettezuki]

Lookin good! Let me know when the back is cut and welded shut and I'll come by and glue that bumper on and we can spray some primer.

Cool. Probably a week or two.

[enkeivette]

P.S. The primer you have is epoxy primer which is non-sanding primer. And since we won't be spraying paint after we spot prime, we will need to sand it.

Epoxy primer is a bitch to sand, it's hard. It's sort of like sanding, um, epoxy. It can be done, and I know the price is right, just fyi.

In the interest of saving time we should shoot the interior within 24 hours of spraying the primer, to prevent having to sand all of that.

[enkeivette]

Keep going, let's ditch all of those seams.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-06-16_23.jpg

[Vettezuki]

Keep going, let's ditch all of those seams.

I thought we remove the ones on the front and rear quarter panel, but keep the one on the side.

[Vettezuki]

Some work we did on July 1.


Motorgen - Videos - RX-Snake@@AMEPARAM@@value="file=/vid/data/547/10-07-01.flv&@@AMEPARAM@@547@@AMEPARAM@@10-07-01.flv

[Shaolin Crane]

Looks like fun, when i get some spare time and my car is all tightened up i'll see if i cant come out and lend a hand

[Vettezuki]

Looks like fun, when i get some spare time and my car is all tightened up i'll see if i cant come out and lend a hand

Always welcome. We're moving along, but have a long way to go still.

[Vettezuki]

Some pics from last Thursday.

Drilling out the spot welds to remove the "tub" for the spare tire.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_01.jpg

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_02.jpg

Cutting part of the front bumper mold in preparation for separating the mold from the buck (pattern).

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_09.jpg


Some sort of boat rigging Aaron concocted to keep things together.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_07.jpg

You have to be patient. Wedges are used to begin separating the mold from the pattern.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_10.jpg

Force comes in handy too.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_11.jpg

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_16.jpg

And pop, there it is.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_18.jpg

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_19.jpg

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-08_20.jpg

[Shaolin Crane]

sweet

[Vettezuki]

Here's the vid from that night.

Motorgen - Videos - RX-Snake July 8, 2010 Bumper Release@@AMEPARAM@@value="file=/vid/data/547/BumperRelease.flv&@@AMEPARAM@@547@@AMEPARAM@@BumperRelease.flv

[Vettezuki]

Here's a vid from earlier in the day, cutting out the wheel well.

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[Vettezuki]

After cutting out the wheel well, we welded in a 1x3 piece of box tube to replace the stock intrusion protection. This was necessary because we're make a whole different rear bumper and diffuser and the stock one made the lines I was after impossible.

Just a couple pics.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-26_05.jpg

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-26_06.jpg

Basically this is what was exposed on the ends of the frame rails (or whatever the end of a uniobdy is called) after pull off the mounting tabs for the OEM bumper. We cleaned this up before welding of course.

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-26_03.jpg

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-26_07.jpg

http://motorgen.com/pic/data/771/RX-Snake_10-07-26_10.jpg

[Shaolin Crane]

Nice

[enkeivette]

Hahaha, very nice.

[enkeivette]

I want to get that bumper on, lets do it after midterms, post oct 15th.

[enkeivette]

I want to get this bitch primered too, get your bro to bust out the media blaster and blow that rust off early oct!

[Vettezuki]

Alright, the only thing left for the rear is to cutout a piece of sheet metal and weld it in. The blaster is pretty easy to setup, just need to by some star media. Also, need to post pics of the hubs kdracer73 put back together.

[Shaolin Crane]

Instead of media blasting why not spray naval jelly on everything ?, would take less time and easier clean up too

[Vettezuki]

Instead of media blasting why not spray naval jelly on everything ?, would take less time and easier clean up too


Overall it will cost the same or more. Requires water to clean up, and has the potential for damaging the metal if you space out and leave it on too long. Properly selected media can't damage the metal and is dry, so you just vacuum it up and reuse.

It's not a bad suggestion at all, I just lean towards the dry stuff for these reasons.

[Shaolin Crane]

If there is food, i will help :)

[Shaolin Crane]

Overall it will cost the same or more. Requires water to clean up, and has the potential for damaging the metal if you space out and leave it on too long. Properly selected media can't damage the metal and is dry, so you just vacuum it up and reuse.

It's not a bad suggestion at all, I just lean towards the dry stuff for these reasons.

I've never heard of naval jelly harming metal, and ive left that stuff on overnight with no foul results.

[enkeivette]

There is so much interior surface rust he would need a loan to buy that much naval jelly. And someone with the patience to apply it and wash it off, then resand the metal. Blasting is what all the cool kids do anyways.

[Shaolin Crane]

There is so much interior surface rust he would need a loan to buy that much naval jelly. And someone with the patience to apply it and wash it off, then resand the metal. Blasting is what all the cool kids do anyways.

I used a single bottle of naval jelly on the inside of my car. cost 3.99. But yes, required much patience.

[Death Cult Aaronmageddon]

Just an update. I plan on finishing the front bumper in the near future. Then I'll pick away at the body work that we can do without spending to much cash.

[Vettezuki]

Just an update. I plan on finishing the front bumper in the near future. Then I'll pick away at the body work that we can do without spending to much cash.

Cool. Maybe enkeivette can finish up the rear bumper as well.

[joedls]

Just an update. I plan on finishing the front bumper in the near future. Then I'll pick away at the body work that we can do without spending to much cash.

How much cash is needed to finish the body work?

[Death Cult Aaronmageddon]

Well at the moment we just need some money for fiberglass. After that we have the materials we just need the free time.

[joedls]

Well at the moment we just need some money for fiberglass. After that we have the materials we just need the free time.

So how much is the fiberglass?

[Vettezuki]

How much cash is needed to finish the body work?

I'd have to talk to enkeivevette about reasonable paint options, that's what can easily get expensive. Let's say about $1k for what we had in mind, remaining fiberglass, paint, etc.

Likewise, finishing the engine, including some nice swap headers about $1k.

Wheels tires and brakes, fuel, and misc, probably around $2k.

Finishing the car, nicely has I had planned and will wait to do nicely, is around $4k and maybe 200 hours. :huh: This is all rough estimating and depends on if I can get deals on some stuff from Granny Speed for the solid/delron bushings, etc., but is probably a fairly accurate ball park estimate.

[joedls]

I'd have to talk to enkeivevette about reasonable paint options, that's what can easily get expensive. Let's say about $1k for what we had in mind, remaining fiberglass, paint, etc.

Likewise, finishing the engine, including some nice swap headers about $1k.

Wheels tires and brakes, fuel, and misc, probably around $2k.

Finishing the car, nicely has I had planned and will wait to do nicely, is around $4k and maybe 200 hours. :huh: This is all rough estimating and depends on if I can get deals on some stuff from Granny Speed for the solid/delron bushings, etc., but is probably a fairly accurate ball park estimate.

How much for the body work, not including paint? I think I can probably contribute some cash for that right now.

[Vettezuki]

How much for the body work, not including paint? I think I can probably contribute some cash for that right now.

Aaron, whattaya think?

The remaining fab, if we did everything we wanted would be scoop for blower, dash of some kind, piece to replace sun roof, and diffuser. $250 would go a long way :huh: Anything is appreciated and will be used to advance the cause.

[joedls]

Aaron, whattaya think?

The remaining fab, if we did everything we wanted would be scoop for blower, dash of some kind, piece to replace sun roof, and diffuser. $250 would go a long way :huh: Anything is appreciated and will be used to advance the cause.

Check your PayPal.

[enkeivette]

Check your PayPal.

Wow, generous! :beer:

I'm in town, I can get that rear bumper on there. Let's prime this fucker this month.

[Shaolin Crane]

Joe is a great dude. He gave me the mufflers i needed for the blue car. Still much appreciated.

[kameleongt]

Hey guys let me know what supplies is needed and what aall paint you guys needed I gave you guys some primer what seems like years and years ago for this project. Let me know what all you would like. I don't have any fiberglass but I can have it next week.

I don't come on here much feel free to email me. Kameleongt@Gmail.com

[Vettezuki]

Wow, generous! :beer:

I'm in town, I can get that rear bumper on there. Let's prime this fucker this month.

Shit. Thought I responded. If you're coming tomorrow night to Nick's we can talk schedule, etc.

[enkeivette]

Thow filler into the list if you email Art, if we're not out by now what we had is dry. And that rear bumper is going to need a lot.

[Shaolin Crane]

I have a gallon of filler y'all can have that i only ended up using about an ounce of.

[Vettezuki]

Thanks Guy and Kamelongt. I'll be in touch when I have a better idea of what's needed. Adam, when would you like to put in some time? Roughly what's your schedule like?

[joedls]

Joe is a great dude.

Who is this Joel you speak of?

[Shaolin Crane]

Woops, snuck an L in there. Your name is Joe correct?

[joedls]

Woops, snuck an L in there. Your name is Joe correct?

Yeah, my name is Joe.

People are always trying to change my name.

Joel
Jose
Joseph
Joey

No one ever believes that my name is just Joe. But that's what it is.

[Shaolin Crane]

Dunno how the l got in there :huh:

[joedls]

Dunno how the l got in there :huh:

:drink:

[Shaolin Crane]

I've not been known for my spelling, my mouth and lowballing yes, but not spelling. :smack:

[big2bird]

There are more posts about paint here than the car. Jamb the engine in there, and let's get her up and running. Paint it primer with a broom for God's sake. :smack:

[Vettezuki]

There are more posts about paint here than the car. Jamb the engine in there, and let's get her up and running. Paint it primer with a broom for God's sake. :smack:

We have a car on the fast and dirty track (The Lemons project, see sig). That's about cheap and get it done. This one, I don't care so much about time. I want it to be purdy .

[enkeivette]

There are more posts about paint here than the car. Jamb the engine in there, and let's get her up and running. Paint it primer with a broom for God's sake. :smack:

Yeaaa!!!

I wanna come get it primered but it's so hot, and I'm so lazy. It's a problem. What's up with that supercharger snout? Get it machined ever?

[Vettezuki]

Yeaaa!!!

I wanna come get it primered but it's so hot, and I'm so lazy. It's a problem. What's up with that supercharger snout? Get it machined ever?

It's about 80% done (and I have the seals kit and manual for reassembly). At least one alignment pin has to be made because it was bent to fuck. Don't recall what else is needed but my cousin's shop is slammed doing double shifts now for the next few weeks and I'm trying to get him to help me with my now defunct clutch pedal rod, hopefully this week. I'm tired of the Vette sitting. I've been driving it daily working out other issues and it was getting better, so this is kind of a piss off.

[Shaolin Crane]

You're welcome to pick up the filler on the way to john's house.

[Vettezuki]

enkeivette, can you work this coming Sunday? If so, what all do you need. Let's bang out at least a lil' someth'n someth'n if possible.

[Vettezuki]

Hey enkeivette, you still down for getting some shit done in August?

[Death Cult Aaronmageddon]

There are more posts about paint here than the car. Jamb the engine in there, and let's get her up and running. Paint it primer with a broom for God's sake. :smack:

I've got to cast the front bumper and I have body mods all over the car before we can even prime the Snake. It's gonna be good when it's done.

[enkeivette]

Hey enkeivette, you still down for getting some shit done in August?

Yes, sorry I've been working on the Vette. Haven't had a chance to put the fuel pump on in about 5 months and I'm tired of watching my rotors rust.

Not planning on doing anything in the 95 degree daytime though. Haha, what nights are you free?

[enkeivette]

Also, is the primer that we have epoxy primer? We NEED epoxy primer, because were not going to be able to get rid of all that 'surface rust,' and any other type of primer will lift.

[Vettezuki]

Basically I'm free in the nights and it's kind of nice out actually. I'll check to see what primer.

[Shaolin Crane]

We need a 2k epoxy primer. I'll see if I cant hit up one of my customers about some PCL Poly Primer.

And that surface rust will come right off with a little naval jelly

[enkeivette]

Feel free to prep it Guy ;) And ya, 2K, I'd say white epoxy since you want to paint it white. Kustom Shop makes some good stuff.

Ben, it was 95 degrees today. That's about as 'nice' as a motorcycle cop with hemeroids.

[Shaolin Crane]

Naval jelly comes in a spray form as well, spray on, hose off, blow dry and etch.

Color of the primer all depends what kind of white we use. PCL however makes the best primer on the market, hands down. I'll see what I can come up with.

[enkeivette]

I think about coming over to do some work on this car every so often. I want to get a coat of primer on it, but truth be told, I hate sanding, and I dont want to spend a day sanding all of that rust off. So if anyone wants to go down there and sand it, I'll come with the spray gun.

And if you can get some epoxy primer, we dont have to take all of the rust off. It can just be sanded and we can spray right over it. Epoxy primer stops the rust from spreading.

[Vettezuki]

I think about coming over to do some work on this car every so often. I want to get a coat of primer on it, but truth be told, I hate sanding, and I dont want to spend a day sanding all of that rust off. So if anyone wants to go down there and sand it, I'll come with the spray gun.

And if you can get some epoxy primer, we dont have to take all of the rust off. It can just be sanded and we can spray right over it. Epoxy primer stops the rust from spreading.

It's on the patio right now. I'm going to put it in the garage within a couple weeks. To be a little more convenient to work on. Touch base on this soon.

[Shaolin Crane]

I think about coming over to do some work on this car every so often. I want to get a coat of primer on it, but truth be told, I hate sanding, and I dont want to spend a day sanding all of that rust off. So if anyone wants to go down there and sand it, I'll come with the spray gun.

And if you can get some epoxy primer, we dont have to take all of the rust off. It can just be sanded and we can spray right over it. Epoxy primer stops the rust from spreading.

No one likes sanding. Unfortunately spraying don't happen without it.

[enkeivette]

No one likes sanding. Unfortunately spraying don't happen without it.

Informative, and helpful! :rolleyes: :p

[enkeivette]

And the car has been sanded, but where people burned through to the metal, and it sat... it started to rust.

[Shaolin Crane]

Informative, and helpful! :rolleyes: :p

Lol. Your post read to everyone else. "I don't feel like cooking but if someone wants to cook I'll come over and eat the food" :jester:

[enkeivette]

Lol. Your post read to everyone else. "I don't feel like cooking but if someone wants to cook I'll come over and eat the food" :jester:

Spraying isnt eating, its hard work. Im saying Ill spend a days worth of free labor on the car if someone else wants to prep, or at least help prep, OR get some epoxy so we dont have to waste time.

What the fuck is your problem recently? You being a dick because I called 5.0-blow out for saying something fucking stupid? I was defending a car that you like anyways. He insulted half the member's cars on this forum and expected me to keep my mouth shut.

[Vettezuki]

Spraying isnt eating, its hard work. Im saying Ill spend a days worth of free labor on the car if someone else wants to prep, or at least help prep, OR get some epoxy so we dont have to waste time.

What the fuck is your problem recently? You being a dick because I called 5.0-blow out for saying something fucking stupid? I was defending a car that you like anyways. He insulted half the member's cars on this forum and expected me to keep my mouth shut.

I think Guy is in normal dick mode, nothing special. :smack:

I'll help and keep you posted when I'm ready.

[enkeivette]

Tell you what Guy, since spraying is like eating, let me know when you are absolutely ready to mask it, clean it, and spray 3 coats of primer on it, and Ill come over 24 hours before and SAND the exterior. Ya? I want you to be well fed.

[Shaolin Crane]

Spraying isnt eating, its hard work. Im saying Ill spend a days worth of free labor on the car if someone else wants to prep, or at least help prep, OR get some epoxy so we dont have to waste time.

What the fuck is your problem recently? You being a dick because I called 5.0-blow out for saying something fucking stupid? I was defending a car that you like anyways. He insulted half the member's cars on this forum and expected me to keep my mouth shut.

I think your tampton might need changing since I was on your side about that whole argument, for YEARS Justin and I have never seen eye to eye on that subject and have gotten into more arguments than I can count about it. :rolleyes:

FTR the spraying is eating. Everyone enjoys the painting, no one enjoys the sanding, priming, blocking, priming, blocking, metal glaze, priming, sanding blah fuckin blah. I'd come over and spray the car too if someone already went through that work. I was being fecicious and you went all vagina over a joke.

[Shaolin Crane]

I think Guy is in normal dick mode, nothing special. :smack:

I'll help and keep you posted when I'm ready.

Yup. Extra dick mode is apparent. When I offend 20+ members in a single post is verge of extradickishness

[fiveohwblow]

Lol

[N8Dogg98]

Lol

Hello... Its u I'm looking for...

[94cobra69ss396]

What the fuck is your problem recently? You being a dick because I called 5.0-blow out for saying something fucking stupid? I was defending a car that you like anyways. He insulted half the member's cars on this forum and expected me to keep my mouth shut.

What did I miss?

[Shaolin Crane]

What did I miss?

Adam has amnesia or something and forgot who I was.

[94cobra69ss396]

What argument is he talking about?

[Vettezuki]

What argument is he talking about?

About hating on GM as a brand, more or less across the board, in the DA thread AIR.

[enkeivette]

Adam has amnesia or something and forgot who I was.

In the past week you've transitioned from factual arguments to personal attacks. I think from your lack of response to my text I hit the nail on the head. Sorry man, do laser tag next time.

[Vettezuki]

In the past week you've transitioned from factual arguments to personal attacks. I think from your lack of response to my text I hit the nail on the head. Sorry man, do laser tag next time.

The forum God requests specific link(s) to alleged personal attacks.

[Shaolin Crane]

In the past week you've transitioned from factual arguments to personal attacks. I think from your lack of response to my text I hit the nail on the head. Sorry man, do laser tag next time.

Not sure what you're talking about. Last text I got from you was on the 28th

[Shaolin Crane]

The forum God requests specific link(s) to alleged personal attacks.

Word. I'm confused as to what's happening here.

[enkeivette]

Sent it this morning, and scroll up.

[Shaolin Crane]

Every text I received today
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[Vettezuki]

Sent it this morning, and scroll up.

I see #409, #412, and #416 in this latest thread segment. Is there anything else? Seems normal Guy dickishness to me. :huh:

[enkeivette]

Marianne, Claudia, Pati and Erika huh? You go playa

[enkeivette]

883

[enkeivette]

The most girls I ever tried to date at once was 5. And it didnt work so well, I forgot about one of them for almost 2 weeks.

[Shaolin Crane]

883

Dude I couldn't give a shit if you felt like bowling or not, half of the people didn't show anyhow. We ended up going to a club anyhow. It would take significantly more than that to make me go all passive aggressive besides, homie don't play that shit. If I got a problem, the whole world knows.

[BRUTAL64]

The most girls I ever tried to date at once was 5. And it didnt work so well, I forgot about one of them for almost 2 weeks.

I tried to date 14 at once in the early 70s...yea that was.....well....interesting:lmfao:.

[enkeivette]

Dude I couldn't give a shit if you felt like bowling or not, half of the people didn't show anyhow. We ended up going to a club anyhow. It would take significantly more than that to make me go all passive aggressive besides, homie don't play that shit. If I got a problem, the whole world knows.

:beer:

[enkeivette]

I tried to date 14 at once in the early 70s...yea that was.....well....interesting:lmfao:.

:hail:

[Shaolin Crane]

My rule is, if it takes longer than 7 days to go out again. You're just dating one woman.

[enkeivette]

If anyone feels like power sanding the rust off of this bitch I will come down on a Sat or Sun, clean it, mask it, and spray it with the epoxy. Just give me notice.

[Vettezuki]

If anyone feels like power sanding the rust off of this bitch I will come down on a Sat or Sun, clean it, mask it, and spray it with the epoxy. Just give me notice.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to pull eject on this too. I just haven't had and am not likely going to have much discretionary income for the forseeable future and if I do I want to make the Vette nicer. It's been sitting on my patio for years and at least I could get my patio back.

[enkeivette]

Never got that blower piece machined?

[Vettezuki]

Never got that blower piece machined?

It is about 90% done, including machining of the mating surfaces, rebuild kit (for seals) and manual for assembly. AIR, it needs to have an alignment dowel made for it and a couple little things.