Home
Don't have an account? Create one now! It's always free!


Forgot Password
Ed's Auto Parts - Mention MOTORGEN for a Discount!
Motorgen Sponsor: McLeod Racing
Motorgen Sponsor: American Muscle - Add style and performance to your Stang
Motorgen Sponsor: Hall Fabrication & Racing
Motorgen Sponsor: Injectors Plus - Performance Fuel Delivery Systems
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-01-2012, 09:37 AM   #1
C5NatieC5Natie is offline
Senior Member
 
C5Natie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 624
Default Help Me Read These Plugs

The pics are Autolite 103's I had in my cam only LS3. I used them in my old high compression LS1 build but I think they're too cold for this setup (they're same as TR6's) I switched to Champion Copper 408's which are stock heat range plugs for an LS3. So do the plugs look too cold for you guys as well? The plugs were on the car about 1500 miles since I put the motor together. Ive since adjusted the timing (less of it, 28* wot) and fuel, 12.8-13.0afr wot. I don't drive long distances and I think the cooler weather as well made it worse, cold plugs couldn't burn off all the carbon.



__________________
YIYIYIYIYIYI, LIVE ACTION!
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2012, 09:37 AM   #2
C5NatieC5Natie is offline
Senior Member
 
C5Natie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 624
Default

Some info,
LS3, stock block and heads
TSP 231/236 114lsa
LS1 coils with Taylor 8.5mm LS3 plug wires

I was seeing 28* timing at wot so I know the ecu wasnt pulling any timing and I didnt see any knock retard either. No blowby, doesnt use oil and oil looks clean. Plugs were dry also when I pulled them.
__________________
YIYIYIYIYIYI, LIVE ACTION!
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2012, 02:07 PM   #3
DamianDamian is offline
Senior Member
 
Damian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,509
Default

http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/pontiac...Readplugs.html
__________________
93 GMC Typhoon: new money pit/PITA. Now GT3788R powered.

Boost, because sometimes atmospheric pressure just isn't enough.

"If it has tit's or tires, you can be pretty sure your going to have problems with them..."
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2012, 06:00 PM   #4
C5NatieC5Natie is offline
Senior Member
 
C5Natie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 624
Default

Many pictures on those type of charts are either vague, low resolution so you cant see, or extreme cases. The ones in the link posted are a bit better. I just wanted to see if others agreed that they seem like plugs that were too cold for the motor. Also think the orange brownish color is from running octane booster at the track.
__________________
YIYIYIYIYIYI, LIVE ACTION!
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2012, 06:03 PM   #5
94cobra69ss39694cobra69ss396 is offline
Fast & Filthy
 
94cobra69ss396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,840
Default

They look normal to me. What fuel are you running? This is one of the plugs I pulled from the Cobra with about 5,000 miles on them.



  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2012, 06:05 PM   #6
94cobra69ss39694cobra69ss396 is offline
Fast & Filthy
 
94cobra69ss396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,840
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by C5Natie View Post
Many pictures on those type of charts are either vague, low resolution so you cant see, or extreme cases. The ones in the link posted are a bit better. I just wanted to see if others agreed that they seem like plugs that were too cold for the motor. Also think the orange brownish color is from running octane booster at the track.
It's too hard to tell the heat range with that many miles on them. Put a new set in make a quick pass and them inspect them. The red/brown color is why I asked about the fuel. The additive would be the cause.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2012, 09:23 PM   #7
DamianDamian is offline
Senior Member
 
Damian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,509
Default

Use NGKs this time, heard too many horror stories with Autolites.
__________________
93 GMC Typhoon: new money pit/PITA. Now GT3788R powered.

Boost, because sometimes atmospheric pressure just isn't enough.

"If it has tit's or tires, you can be pretty sure your going to have problems with them..."
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2012, 09:52 PM   #8
C5NatieC5Natie is offline
Senior Member
 
C5Natie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 624
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 View Post
It's too hard to tell the heat range with that many miles on them. Put a new set in make a quick pass and them inspect them. The red/brown color is why I asked about the fuel. The additive would be the cause.
I used an octane booster before i fine tuned the car. I think that caused the orange color. Car only sees 91 now, mostly chevron. Ill do a quck wot run with the new plugs and then check them out.
__________________
YIYIYIYIYIYI, LIVE ACTION!
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2012, 09:54 PM   #9
C5NatieC5Natie is offline
Senior Member
 
C5Natie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 624
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian View Post
Use NGKs this time, heard too many horror stories with Autolites.
Thats all ive ever used with no issues. Theyve always looked like new after months of driving. We will see with the champions now.
__________________
YIYIYIYIYIYI, LIVE ACTION!
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2012, 10:15 PM   #10
enkeivetteenkeivette is offline
Super Moderator
 
enkeivette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,850
Default

I see red, what kinda fuel additives are you running?
__________________
I <3 forced induction.
  Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:40 AM.