My only thing is that American cars are heavy beasts and have to have a lot of horse power to compensate. Granted the Vette isn't heavy though. The Evo can make some great power out of a 4 banger, I made great power in my Eclipse with a V6 turbo (was slow stock). When you look at a bone stock car, not too many American cars are fast. And the new Mustang Cobras are not stock.
False. The C6 weighs as much as your Eclipse, maybe less.
When you look at American MUSCLE, they are all fast. They're all in the 12s and 13s nowadays. When you look at Jap sports cars, a few of them are fast, in the 13s, but I can think of only one that's faster. And unless you go AWD, the FWD ruins the car.
I mean, my mom's SRT4 is a fun car no doubt about it. And I had fun driving my friends turbo avenger this last weekend (FWD eclipse motor) but neither of them would ever be able to hang with anything RWD on a race track.
And I can't think of any Jap cars other than the Evo, STI, and the GTR that are anything but FWD.
And as far as a Civic being fast. It will never be as fast as an EQUIVALENTLY tuned muscle car. Why? Because thrice as much displacement is a good thing.
Sure, compare a trailered stripped down Civic with slicks on the front and a 10K race motor to a street/ strip muscle car and the Civic may be faster and in the 9s. But an equally ridiculous GNX or Nova will be in the 7s or 8s.
. . . What Civic on here is faster than Rons Chevelle? And is it street/ strip or strictly drag?
Strictly drag. Paul Ho's 1994 Civic. Runs 9s > 150mph. Saw it myself, though I didn't catch it on video. Here's a slow run. .
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No basis from one mans perspective, not another's. many don't care to go to a timed event and would rather just enjoy the butt dyno or risk a street competition. In no way does this designate a car slow or "not fast"
This is my only real objection, you're attempting an objective argument with subjective terms. Fast is an impression or experience of speed, not a measurement of speed. You're assuming we agree on the scope and nature of a subjective term. That no worky so good unless we happen to agree, which we kind of don't, but you seemed to have assumed we would maybe.
Basically you're telling us what you think, not "what is." The first clue is an interrogative sentence ending with an exclamation point!
Uhh, cuz they think it does . . .which is well understand by manufacturers and marketers.
I didn't know it was that Civic, i've seen it a ton of times, in my neighborhood too I think.
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