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Old 01-30-2009, 05:04 PM   #481
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Ben, Are you and Adam going to stop by tomorrow to check out the car? I'm going to work on the cage tomorrow and see if I can finish it up.
Tentatively yes. I need to confirm with the Adam.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:05 PM   #482
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Does fly cutting affect the balance, or as long as it's done consistently the difference will be too small?
Yes, it effects the balance. Welcome to engine building!
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:09 PM   #483
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Well, that is a tough question. Depends on how much you cut. But, any I did still in the engine, I didn't do a rebalance. But, if we do it on the SBF engine- cause I said it would be ok, it'll be too far out of balance.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:11 PM   #484
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Yes, it effects the balance. Welcome to engine building!
Well then, instead of spending money on the tool, perhaps it makes more sense to pull the whole assembly, have them fly cut and rebalanced? That's if it proves necessary after test fitting according to Glenn.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:16 PM   #485
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Well then, instead of spending money on the tool, perhaps it makes more sense to pull the whole assembly, have them fly cut and rebalanced? That's if it proves necessary after test fitting according to Glenn.

You just want to take that engine apart don't you? Come on, fess up.

If you want to take it apart then I can show you how to deburr the whole block.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:24 PM   #486
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You just want to take that engine apart don't you? Come on, fess up.

If you want to take it apart then I can show you how to deburr the whole block.
It's true actually.

I want to take the WHOLE thing apart and put it back together as a learning process. But I want to understand the pros and cons of doing it different ways. The only hesitation I have, though I don't think it's a problem with our schedule, is I don't want to go down a rabbit hole that ends up delaying the whole project for some peculiar reason. While there is no special event this must be done for, I'd kind of like to have something to show at some stage at Fabulous Fords Forever (April 19) and to be able to campaign the car all over SoCal from the Spring . . . since other than fun for us the point is exposure and promotion.
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Ok, a GOOD FORD guy can assemble a SBF in 5 hours with one helper. You want to take it apart, do it. It wouldn't hurt to inspect the piston skirts and crank for loading/wear issues. Then I'll come by and SHOW you how to deburr the block and do a few little things to insure the block will not get stress cracks. Kinda important with Forced Induction.

One small thing. Were the rod bolts done with pure torque, or done by bolt stretch?
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Ok, a GOOD FORD guy can assemble a SBF in 5 hours with one helper. You want to take it apart, do it. It wouldn't hurt to inspect the piston skirts and crank for loading/wear issues. Then I'll come by and SHOW you how to deburr the block and do a few little things to insure the block will not get stress cracks. Kinda important with Forced Induction.
OK. Cool. Any super important things I should be aware of when taking it apart, like order of removal, or (as it has been so far) pretty self evident?

I've got a book on SBC that details disassembly/assembly of OHV engines, I imagine the procedures are pretty much the same right? Or do you have any links I should study before continuing?
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OK. Cool. Any super important things I should be aware of when taking it apart, like order of removal, or (as it has been so far) pretty self evident?

I've got a book on SBC that details disassembly/assembly of OHV engines, I imagine the procedures are pretty much the same right? Or do you have any links I should study before continuing?
Just make sure you put something on the rod bolts BEFORE you push the pistons out ot the block. You can use 3/8 fuel line. Protect the crank at all costs. Don't hit the rod caps too hard to split them.

Keep the rods and pistons in order ( stamp them if you want ).

Carefull pulling the cam out, twist as you pull it out- easy as you go.


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Old 01-30-2009, 06:37 PM   #490
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Thanks Glenn.

You guys don't need it, but maybe if someone else asks you can check these videos out.

(Example) Removing Pistons:

The site
http://boxwrench.3dcartstores.com/Ba...DVD_p_0-8.html

Somebody put some pretty serious money into the production. All those animated fly-aways are expensive to produce. Very cool
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