Home
Don't have an account? Create one now! It's always free!


Forgot Password
Ed's Auto Parts - Mention MOTORGEN for a Discount!
Motorgen Sponsor: McLeod Racing
Motorgen Sponsor: American Muscle - Add style and performance to your Stang
Motorgen Sponsor: Hall Fabrication & Racing
Motorgen Sponsor: Injectors Plus - Performance Fuel Delivery Systems
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-14-2009, 12:22 PM   #21
94cobra69ss39694cobra69ss396 is offline
Fast & Filthy
 
94cobra69ss396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,840
Default

So I finished porting the heads on Saturday. Then on Sunday I cleaned the valves, lapped them and then installed the new valve springs. Here are some pictures of the completed work.

Glenn, I didn't shorten the valve guide because they are not very long and I was worried about how stable the large valve would be with the high spring pressures. I didn't want to compromise the stability of the valve and felt that the little bit of added cfm, if any, was worth the chance of the valve being able to rock in the seat. I'd rather have them last a long time.

Exhaust.









Seat before lapping.


Seat after lapping.


Cleaned valves.


Before lapping.


After lapping.


Intake.


Combustion chamber.


New springs.


During install.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 01:26 PM   #22
BRUTAL64BRUTAL64 is offline
Neanderthal
 
BRUTAL64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,320
Default

Only comment--your intake port needs to be a little bigger (.060 or so ) than your intake port. This helps revision. You are on the right track, just need to to clean up the outer intake port at the gasket (leave port rough).

The exhaust port looks OK, but could use a little clean up- the smoother it is the less carbon build up. Other wise a very nice job.
__________________
64 Vette Roadster 400 ci
1990 F150 351 ci SuperCharged
48 Harley Pan Head 76 ci
2016 Nissan Altma
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 01:41 PM   #23
VettezukiVettezuki is offline
I, Vettezuki
 
Vettezuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 14,754
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 View Post
. . . your intake port needs to be a little bigger (.060 or so ) than your intake port. . . .
Uhhh . . .
__________________
Motorgen on
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Motorgen on
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Motorgen Project Car
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
(active)
Motorgen Project Car
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
(back burner)
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 01:53 PM   #24
94cobra69ss39694cobra69ss396 is offline
Fast & Filthy
 
94cobra69ss396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,840
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vettezuki View Post
Uhhh . . .
Intake port on head vs. on intake manifold. Make the intake on the head larger than the intake on the intake manifold.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 02:57 PM   #25
VettezukiVettezuki is offline
I, Vettezuki
 
Vettezuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 14,754
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 View Post
Intake port on head vs. on intake manifold. Make the intake on the head larger than the intake on the intake manifold.
So you want the air/fuel mix to slow down and very slightly cool as it enters the head? Is there some other objective?
__________________
Motorgen on
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Motorgen on
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Motorgen Project Car
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
(active)
Motorgen Project Car
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
(back burner)
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 03:08 PM   #26
BRUTAL64BRUTAL64 is offline
Neanderthal
 
BRUTAL64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,320
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vettezuki View Post
So you want the air/fuel mix to slow down and very slightly cool as it enters the head? Is there some other objective?
Other objectives. See, I keep telling you, a head porting class.

The difference has more to do with reversion and port alignment.
__________________
64 Vette Roadster 400 ci
1990 F150 351 ci SuperCharged
48 Harley Pan Head 76 ci
2016 Nissan Altma
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2009, 06:27 PM   #27
enkeivetteenkeivette is offline
Super Moderator
 
enkeivette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,850
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 View Post
Intake port on head vs. on intake manifold. Make the intake on the head larger than the intake on the intake manifold.
I left my intake about a 1/16 smaller than my head port, all the way around.

Nice work!
__________________
I <3 forced induction.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 03:26 AM   #28
big2birdbig2bird is offline
Power's off.
 
big2bird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 673
Default

My only comment on this is the valve head/seat contact area. Last time I did a a valve job, a LONG time ago, when 3 angle seats were fairly new, it was desired to make the contact area as small as possible. Your lapped area looks rather large to me. Has the thinking been revised?
__________________
Chrome don't get you home.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 08:29 AM   #29
94cobra69ss39694cobra69ss396 is offline
Fast & Filthy
 
94cobra69ss396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,840
Default

These heads are only two years old and I haven't had a valve job done on them. The angles are what Edelbrock used. The heads are Performer RPM rectangular ports and the seats have 3 angles and the valves have one. I'm sure there is more power in a good multi angle valve job but I don't have the cash to spend on it right now and the valves and seats are in good shape so I just lapped them.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 11:40 AM   #30
BRUTAL64BRUTAL64 is offline
Neanderthal
 
BRUTAL64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,320
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 View Post
These heads are only two years old and I haven't had a valve job done on them. The angles are what Edelbrock used. The heads are Performer RPM rectangular ports and the seats have 3 angles and the valves have one. I'm sure there is more power in a good multi angle valve job but I don't have the cash to spend on it right now and the valves and seats are in good shape so I just lapped them.

A 30 degree back cut on a exhaust valve helps the low lift flow. If you going for every little bit of horse power this will help. If not leave it alone. If you have Manley valves, if I remember our conversation correctly, then they should already have all the correct valve angles. I've done SIX angle cuts on my own heads when I had all the gear. But, that's just over kill.
__________________
64 Vette Roadster 400 ci
1990 F150 351 ci SuperCharged
48 Harley Pan Head 76 ci
2016 Nissan Altma
  Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:42 AM.