[enkeivette]

I think the rings will be fine, if there's no scoring I'd run them. Youre already getting kicked in the balls having to get your crank welded up and machined back down, why kick yourself any harder?

New crank? new bearings? new cam? new rings... fuck. Take a page out of the book of Chiltons. NOTHING gets replaced unless it is out of spec. You're building a motor, not a china doll collection.

[BRUTAL64]

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396

My opinion is that if the crank is gone that you just pick up a cast 429 crank from Summit. They're a little over $350. If you decide to go with a stroker kit you will be into a minimum of $2000-$3000. Yes, it will make more power than the 429 but you haven't even driven it with the 429. Right now you're used to the misfiring 351C power.

Yea, stroker kits are not free. A STOCK 429 in my T-bird is 360 hp and 480 ft lbs of torque. Yes, it much more than the 351 Cleveland.

Darlene says I'm 61 going on 12. So I think like a kid with a short life span.

It's....just 502 cubic inches of BIG BLOCK FORD...I can dream



As far as the stock crank goes...I'm of this thought...if it was an auto trans vehicle than the thrust face on the crank is not as critical.

BUT...with a clutch.....you pushing a lot pressure against the clutch fingers that pushes the clutch fastened to the flywheel (bolted to the crank) that pushes against the thrust face of the crank. If that thrust face is NOT PERFECTLY smooth it will wear out the bearing adjacent to crank thrust face. This is just fact.

So looking at the thrust face on his crank....


With a stroker kit you could assemble your self....460 up to 502....all you would need extra is a crank-----pistons----and a re-balance. It just has to be decided cost vs cubic inches....


Yea...I know 61 going on 12.

[enkeivette]

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64

Yea, stroker kits are not free. A STOCK 429 in my T-bird is 360 hp and 480 ft lbs of torque. Yes, it much more than the 351 Cleveland.

Darlene says I'm 61 going on 12. So I think like a kid with a short life span.

It's....just 502 cubic inches of BIG BLOCK FORD...I can dream



As far as the stock crank goes...I'm of this thought...if it was an auto trans vehicle than the thrust face on the crank is not as critical.

BUT...with a clutch.....you pushing a lot pressure against the clutch fingers that pushes the clutch fastened to the flywheel (bolted to the crank) that pushes against the thrust face of the crank. If that thrust face is NOT PERFECTLY smooth it will wear out the bearing adjacent to crank thrust face. This is just fact.

So looking at the thrust face on his crank....


With a stroker kit you could assemble your self....460 up to 502....all you would need extra is a crank-----pistons----and a re-balance. It just has to be decided cost vs cubic inches....


Yea...I know 61 going on 12.

Despite my cheapness however, I would factor the cost of refurbishing the 429 crank with the cost of a comparable 460 crank. Those have got to be pretty common.

But anyways, I had to draw the line somewhere. When I was building mine I had to decide between a 383 and a 396, for $300 more. Now, yeah I want more more more, and I think it would have been cool to have built the 396.

But at the time, I just had to draw the line somewhere. Another 30hp for $300, not a bad deal. But that's the redneck in me. Did I really need that extra displacement? Haha, no. In fact! I probably should have saved even more money and gone with a 350.

[BRUTAL64]

Originally Posted by enkeivette

Despite my cheapness however, I would factor the cost of refurbishing the 429 crank with the cost of a comparable 460 crank. Those have got to be pretty common.

But anyways, I had to draw the line somewhere. When I was building mine I had to decide between a 383 and a 396, for $300 more. Now, yeah I want more more more, and I think it would have been cool to have built the 396.

But at the time, I just had to draw the line somewhere. Another 30hp for $300, not a bad deal. But that's the redneck in me. Did I really need that extra displacement? Haha, no. In fact! I probably should have saved even more money and gone with a 350.

There it is....you will always want more...so why not build the more now....and save the wants and wish I dids for something else.

[BRUTAL64]

Originally Posted by enkeivette

I think the rings will be fine, if there's no scoring I'd run them. Youre already getting kicked in the balls having to get your crank welded up and machined back down, why kick yourself any harder?

New crank? new bearings? new cam? new rings... fuck. Take a page out of the book of Chiltons. NOTHING gets replaced unless it is out of spec. You're building a motor, not a china doll collection.

I see you took my rebuttal for these less than true/helpful statements out...but left this........in.


I thought we were through with 1984....

[Mach1Daddy]

Glen, I can certainly identify with a lot of what you are saying. I am probably doing today what I would like to have done when I was 19, 50 years ago and couldn't - that makes me 8 years older than you.

I think that I will stick with the 429 and forget all of the other stuff. I'm going from the 351C - approx. 240hp & 360ft/lbs of torque to probably 400+hp and 500+ft/lbs of torque. That's probably enough for an old guy to handle. No point in getting too greedy.

[BRUTAL64]

Originally Posted by Mach1Daddy

Glen, I can certainly identify with a lot of what you are saying. I am probably doing today what I would like to have done when I was 19, 50 years ago and couldn't - that makes me 8 years older than you.

I think that I will stick with the 429 and forget all of the other stuff. I'm going from the 351C - approx. 240hp & 360ft/lbs of torque to probably 400+hp and 500+ft/lbs of torque. That's probably enough for an old guy to handle. No point in getting too greedy.

You are older than me.....I did not know that.

Greedy can be cool sometimes...doing what you think is right ......IS always cool

[BRUTAL64]

So...how is it going with the 429.

[Mach1Daddy]

Nothing new yet. Will not know anything till be get the main bearing.

[enkeivette]

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64

I see you took my rebuttal for these less than true/helpful statements out...but left this........in.


I thought we were through with 1984....

Cry? I left your opinion about the 429 here, and I left my opinion about the 429 here. Every rebuttal that came after I moved.

Here it is, for all who are curious.

Rebuilding an Engine that doesnt need a rebuild.
http://motorgen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48777


Didnt see that you need new pistons for the 460 crank. That sucks, why is that? Piston height in relation to crank stroke Im assuming? I wonder if anyone has thought of a way around that with a slightly shorter rod.