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Old 12-04-2009, 05:02 PM   #51
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Well, I have updated all the software and the tune for my XCal3. Gonna go fill her up with gas re-tune and flogger her and see if I am still getting a knock. Wish me luck!!

Update: Still knocking!! Starts at heavy to WOT around 4K.
So it's either got too much timing or the afr is too lean. How much timing is the ecu pulling? Does the tuner allow you to make adjustments to the timing or afr? If so, pull 2 degrees starting at 3600 rpms up and see if it helps. If you knew how much the ecu was pulling now it would help.
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:39 PM   #52
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Are you running a 91 octane tune? You can datalog how much spark your car is pulling due to knock. You can adjust timiing, either globally, or in pre-determined ranges. I don't remember what the pre-determined ranges are, but I think they are from 2000-4000, 4000-6000, and 6000+.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:32 AM   #53
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I understand what you guys are saying but I would rather not mess with that timing. I can bump the WOT AF up a bit and see if that help otherwise I would probably be making another trip up to see you and your family Ron. Who knows, I might get crazy with Sean this weekend and mess with the timing myself, with all you guy's input of course.
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I understand what you guys are saying but I would rather not mess with that timing. I can bump the WOT AF up a bit and see if that help otherwise I would probably be making another trip up to see you and your family Ron. Who knows, I might get crazy with Sean this weekend and mess with the timing myself, with all you guy's input of course.
Retarding the timing a couple of degrees won't hurt anything. What tune did you load up?
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Retarding the timing a couple of degrees won't hurt anything. What tune did you load up?
I pretty much just loaded the tune that SCT provides. I have to use the 91 tune because that is the only tune my car runs on (91 stock for me). All I adjusted for was the gears.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:49 AM   #56
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Do you have a CAI on your car?
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:55 AM   #57
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CAI, intake spacer and flowmaster mufflers and a badass Shaker!!!!
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So it's either got too much timing or the afr is too lean. How much timing is the ecu pulling? Does the tuner allow you to make adjustments to the timing or afr? If so, pull 2 degrees starting at 3600 rpms up and see if it helps. If you knew how much the ecu was pulling now it would help.
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91 Octane, Race Fuel, Speed Limiter, Idle Drive, Idle Neutral, Shift Point 1-2, Shift Point 2-3, Shift Point 3-4, Shift Firmness 1-2, Shift Firmness 2-3, Shift Firmness 3-4, Rev Limiter, Cooling Fans, Spark 0 - 2000, Spark 2000 - 4000, Spark 4000 - 8000, WOT FUEL, Axle Ratio, 30lb injector, 42lb injector, 90mm Lightning MAF
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:00 AM   #59
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CAI, intake spacer and flowmaster mufflers and a badass Shaker!!!!
I'm not familiar with how the Mach 1 came from the factory. I know it came with a shaker. Was it functional? Is the CAI stock? If not, that could explain your pinging problem. If you have an intake that breathes better, but don't adjust the tune for it, your car could run lean. When did the pinging start?
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