[enkeivette]

Originally Posted by injdinjn

Just curious, with all the new laws are their items that fall outside the atty - client confidentiality area?

What new laws?

Attorney confidentiality just like doctor patient confidentiality is limited only when someone else stands to suffer "substantial bodily harm or death."

Also, lawyers cannot hide instrumentalities of a crime, but they don't have to give facts relating to those instrumentalities.

[Vettezuki]

Originally Posted by enkeivette

What new laws?

Attorney confidentiality just like doctor patient confidentiality is limited only when someone else stands to suffer "substantial bodily harm or death."

Also, lawyers cannot hide instrumentalities of a crime, but they don't have to give facts relating to those instrumentalities.

Going the opposite direction I do think the Patriot Act (or related) does bizaarely prevent the accused from fully knowing what evidence the state is brining against them, making defense, uh, challenging. AIR, This is happening in the case of the lavabit founder, it's weird.

[injdinjn]

Originally Posted by enkeivette

What new laws?

Attorney confidentiality just like doctor patient confidentiality is limited only when someone else stands to suffer "substantial bodily harm or death."

Also, lawyers cannot hide instrumentalities of a crime, but they don't have to give facts relating to those instrumentalities.

I'll bite, define instrumentalities as defined in the legal sense.

[injdinjn]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

Going the opposite direction I do think the Patriot Act (or related) does bizaarely prevent the accused from fully knowing what evidence the state is brining against them, making defense, uh, challenging. AIR, This is happening in the case of the lavabit founder, it's weird.

The patriot act is the worst thing we ever allowed to happen, but it expired and this dictator revived it. We gave up all our constitutional rights.

[enkeivette]

Originally Posted by injdinjn

I'll bite, define instrumentalities as defined in the legal sense.

OJs knife

[injdinjn]

Thanks
Oh, as to "new laws" CA passes ~1800 new laws every year, the feds about the same who knows what all they all could apply to.