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Frankie and I where at The Stagecoach Festival In Indio. Imagine being with 60,000 Red-Blooded, Flag Waving Rednecks and hearing the news !
Click on the first for a video !
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05-03-2011, 12:29 AM
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That's awesome. Bet it felt super patriotic.
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05-03-2011, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ms. Dovey and Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr
I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. "Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.”
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just thought I'd throw this out there.
Last edited by Small White Car : 05-03-2011 at 12:14 PM.
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05-03-2011, 02:58 AM
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I hope that now the President realizes the mistake he made in stopping the "enhanced interrogation" that got us the intel to find Bin Laden and stop the Justice Dept from going after the interrogators who used the "enhanced interrogation". I have no illusions that he will make that admission in public, but I hope he rescinds the Presidential Order he signed soon after he became President.
One thing that bothers me is the picture the White House released showing the staff watching the raid shot on helmet cams live. If I was a SEAL, I certainly would not want some armchair quarter back watching over my shoulder.
I do wish that we didn't crash the chopper so that we could have more time to do some more operations with the intel gathered before anyone realized that Osama was dead.
Bob
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05-03-2011, 11:37 AM
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I hope that now the President realizes the mistake he made in stopping the "enhanced interrogation" that got us the intel to find Bin Laden and stop the Justice Dept from going after the interrogators who used the "enhanced interrogation". I have no illusions that he will make that admission in public, but I hope he rescinds the Presidential Order he signed soon after he became President.
One thing that bothers me is the picture the White House released showing the staff watching the raid shot on helmet cams live. If I was a SEAL, I certainly would not want some armchair quarter back watching over my shoulder.
I do wish that we didn't crash the chopper so that we could have more time to do some more operations with the intel gathered before anyone realized that Osama was dead.
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The article I read stated that the intel we got regarding the courier was NOT gained through use of "enhanced interrogations," but during a conventional interrogation. I don't believe we need to torture anyone and this seems to reinforce that notion. I support the ban.
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05-03-2011, 11:47 AM
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just thought I'd throw this out there.
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05-03-2011, 12:02 PM
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The article I read stated that the intel we got regarding the courier was NOT gained through use of "enhanced interrogations," but during a conventional interrogation. I don't believe we need to torture anyone and this seems to reinforce that notion. I support the ban.
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And the Govt never lies about anything.
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05-03-2011, 12:08 PM
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And the Govt never lies about anything.
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Yeah, and Obama was born in Kenya, 9/11 was planned by Bush, etc. I'm tired of all the conspiracy theory nonsense. I'm taking them at their word. Additionally, it still wouldn't justify torture. Water-boarding is torture.
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05-03-2011, 12:19 PM
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The article I read stated that the intel we got regarding the courier was NOT gained through use of "enhanced interrogations," but during a conventional interrogation. I don't believe we need to torture anyone and this seems to reinforce that notion. I support the ban.
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I got my information from an interview with Rep Peter King a member of the Subcommittee on Terrorism, HUMINT, Analysis, and Counterintelligence in Congress.
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05-03-2011, 12:24 PM
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. . . I'm tired of all the conspiracy theory nonsense. . .
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Government (politicians) lie all the time; it's sort of a requirement for the job as voters don't really like being told the truth so politicians tell them what they want to hear to get elected. This is hardly a debatable point. However, in this case, I don't have any specific reason to disbelieve them. The burial at sea thing will stoke the flames of conspiracy theory though.
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