Home
Don't have an account? Create one now! It's always free!


Forgot Password
Ed's Auto Parts - Mention MOTORGEN for a Discount!
Motorgen Sponsor: McLeod Racing
Motorgen Sponsor: American Muscle - Add style and performance to your Stang
Motorgen Sponsor: Hall Fabrication & Racing
Motorgen Sponsor: Injectors Plus - Performance Fuel Delivery Systems
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-12-2008, 11:03 AM   #11
BRUTAL64BRUTAL64 is offline
Neanderthal
 
BRUTAL64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,320
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Durango_Boy View Post
The 400 was the biggest to my knowledge. It can be stroked out to close to 450 I THINK...I don't remember.

My 400 block is bored +.020 and will use stock crank and rods for a final of a 6.6L 405.


Do not use the stock rods for a 400 sb.
__________________
64 Vette Roadster 400 ci
1990 F150 351 ci SuperCharged
48 Harley Pan Head 76 ci
2016 Nissan Altma
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2008, 01:48 PM   #12
Durango_BoyDurango_Boy is offline
Senior Member
 
Durango_Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 View Post
Do not use the stock rods for a 400 sb.

Too late. I had them rebuilt and awaiting new pistons and no more budget room for new rods. The engine won't ever see screaming high RPMs.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2008, 01:51 PM   #13
enkeivetteenkeivette is offline
Super Moderator
 
enkeivette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,850
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 View Post
Which one is better--- do you like you women with BIG BOOBS or smaller compact boobs.
Good analogy, for enough money they can be made to do whatever you want.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2008, 02:43 PM   #14
BRUTAL64BRUTAL64 is offline
Neanderthal
 
BRUTAL64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,320
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Durango_Boy View Post
Too late. I had them rebuilt and awaiting new pistons and no more budget room for new rods. The engine won't ever see screaming high RPMs.

That's unfortunate. The stock 400 rods are limited in strenght-even less that the stock 5.7 rod. The rods were never designed for over 4,500 rpm. They are too short to make any good torque over 4,500 rpm.
__________________
64 Vette Roadster 400 ci
1990 F150 351 ci SuperCharged
48 Harley Pan Head 76 ci
2016 Nissan Altma
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2008, 02:53 PM   #15
Durango_BoyDurango_Boy is offline
Senior Member
 
Durango_Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 View Post
That's unfortunate. The stock 400 rods are limited in strenght-even less that the stock 5.7 rod. The rods were never designed for over 4,500 rpm. They are too short to make any good torque over 4,500 rpm.

Yeah I found out all about that after I had the work done. The only thing left is I'm waiting for the pistons. Had I not already had ARP studs installed and everything rebuilt I would consider upgrading the rods.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2008, 04:18 PM   #16
BRUTAL64BRUTAL64 is offline
Neanderthal
 
BRUTAL64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,320
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Durango_Boy View Post
Yeah I found out all about that after I had the work done. The only thing left is I'm waiting for the pistons. Had I not already had ARP studs installed and everything rebuilt I would consider upgrading the rods.

Scat Rods $285.OO. 7/16 cap screw bolts---good to 700 hp. Pretty damn things, too pretty to put in an engine. Got them in my 400 -- I used the 6".

One of the things about this rod is it is for stroker engines-- will clear cam with no work--perfect fit.
__________________
64 Vette Roadster 400 ci
1990 F150 351 ci SuperCharged
48 Harley Pan Head 76 ci
2016 Nissan Altma
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2008, 04:33 PM   #17
enkeivetteenkeivette is offline
Super Moderator
 
enkeivette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,850
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Durango_Boy View Post
SBC 405
Roller Retrofit
64cc Aluminum Vortec Heads (200cc Intake Runners.)
10.15:1 Static CR
Crane 119661 Roller Cam - I292 - E300 - Dur .50 - 230 / 238 @ 112 - LI.539 - LE.558
Don't think that motor will make too much power for the stock rods. If you stay away from boost and nitrous it should be fine. I wouldn't run anything but forged parts in any performance motor because I'm paranoid, but realistically I don't think you'll run into problems.

Glenn, H or I? I have the Forged Scat 6" H rods in my humble lil mouse.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2008, 12:02 PM   #18
BRUTAL64BRUTAL64 is offline
Neanderthal
 
BRUTAL64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,320
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by enkeivette View Post
Don't think that motor will make too much power for the stock rods. If you stay away from boost and nitrous it should be fine. I wouldn't run anything but forged parts in any performance motor because I'm paranoid, but realistically I don't think you'll run into problems.

Glenn, H or I? I have the Forged Scat 6" H rods in my humble lil mouse.
I've got the "I" Rods. This 400 is a test motor for rod lenght and Hyper pistons. Just a cheap 475 hp+ motor ( according to the computer it is 536 hp ). The next motor is going to be the "trick" setup. Funny thing is; I've got this 454 short block sitting in my shop--thinking 496.

BTW all SBC and BBC stock rods are forged.
__________________
64 Vette Roadster 400 ci
1990 F150 351 ci SuperCharged
48 Harley Pan Head 76 ci
2016 Nissan Altma
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2008, 06:29 PM   #19
94cobra69ss39694cobra69ss396 is offline
Fast & Filthy
 
94cobra69ss396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,840
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by enkeivette View Post
I wouldn't run anything but forged parts in any performance motor because I'm paranoid, but realistically I don't think you'll run into problems.
I have an Eagle cast crank with 2 bolt mains in the 454 in the Chevelle and it has 2 years of racing on the engine without any issues.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2008, 08:13 PM   #20
enkeivetteenkeivette is offline
Super Moderator
 
enkeivette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,850
Default

200cc Vortec heads and a 230/238 cam will need at least a 100shot of juice to reach 536 flywheel hp, sorry. BTW, desktop dyno said that my motor NA should have been in the 600s, it was actually in the low 400s after tuning... NA. Desktop dyno is a tricky bitch to get accurate numbers from, I even input the head flow data across the lift points.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:21 PM.