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Old 06-10-2009, 11:15 PM   #21
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I get back roughly the third week of November - then I'm going to NY for a month or so and then I'm back for good around New Years.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:18 PM   #22
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I get back roughly the third week of November - then I'm going to NY for a month or so and then I'm back for good around New Years.
Very cool, we'll have to find a kick ass route for the cruise in January for you to break the Mustang in on
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:24 PM   #23
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for sure. that would be cool.

time for me to get up and go to work I guess. (9 hour time difference btw)
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I just read up on heads and I guess for the AFR 185's you have to flycut the stock pistons because the valves are bigger. It sounds like it's much easier to go with AFR 165's because they work with the stock pistons. Also, it sounds like you can stay smog legal with an E303 Cam and AFR 165 while making well over 300+whp. Considering that car probably weighs in at under 3000lbs I think it would be a very entertaining driver.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:14 AM   #25
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I just read up on heads and I guess for the AFR 185's you have to flycut the stock pistons because the valves are bigger. It sounds like it's much easier to go with AFR 165's because they work with the stock pistons. Also, it sounds like you can stay smog legal with an E303 Cam and AFR 165 while making well over 300+whp. Considering that car probably weighs in at under 3000lbs I think it would be a very entertaining driver.
Entertaining, huh?

It might get a bit hairy at times... perhaps a little loose -

like i said - going into the database I'm really excited about this whole thing.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:35 AM   #26
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When exactly do you get home? We'll have to do a welcome home cruise when you get back
For sure. We MUST salute the men and women who keep this country and this world safe (since we are the world's keeper regardless what other people say).
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I just read up on heads and I guess for the AFR 185's you have to flycut the stock pistons because the valves are bigger. It sounds like it's much easier to go with AFR 165's because they work with the stock pistons. Also, it sounds like you can stay smog legal with an E303 Cam and AFR 165 while making well over 300+whp. Considering that car probably weighs in at under 3000lbs I think it would be a very entertaining driver.
This is what I have on the Cobra (Crane 2040 which is the same as the E303 with AFR 165's). I went with the 165's because I had stock pistons when I bought them but then I broke the pistons and put in Probe SRS forged pistons that will clear the 2.02/1.60 values on the 185's. I wish I would have bought the 185's.

Before Eric adds heads, cam, intake, etc. he will need to rebuild the short block because it has 187,000 miles on it. It still runs great but I wouldn't add those things until he has a fresh short block. I use to have an 88 GT that I bought with 189,000 miles on it. I drove it until it had over 230,000 and then sold it when I bought the Cobra. I sold it to a friend and he drove it for two more years before selling it. The 5.0 is a good engine.

It won't cost that much to rebuild the short block and add new Probe SRS pistons. That way he can run any head he wants as long as it is CARB legal. Same goes for the cam. He'll be driving the car a lot on the street so I won't let him add anything to it that isn't 50 state legal. That's the way I built the Cobra so I know he can get a lot of power out of it and still be legal.
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This is what I have on the Cobra (Crane 2040 which is the same as the E303 with AFR 165's). I went with the 165's because I had stock pistons when I bought them but then I broke the pistons and put in Probe SRS forged pistons that will clear the 2.02/1.60 values on the 185's. I wish I would have bought the 185's.

Before Eric adds heads, cam, intake, etc. he will need to rebuild the short block because it has 187,000 miles on it. It still runs great but I wouldn't add those things until he has a fresh short block. I use to have an 88 GT that I bought with 189,000 miles on it. I drove it until it had over 230,000 and then sold it when I bought the Cobra. I sold it to a friend and he drove it for two more years before selling it. The 5.0 is a good engine.

It won't cost that much to rebuild the short block and add new Probe SRS pistons. That way he can run any head he wants as long as it is CARB legal. Same goes for the cam. He'll be driving the car a lot on the street so I won't let him add anything to it that isn't 50 state legal. That's the way I built the Cobra so I know he can get a lot of power out of it and still be legal.
Sounds good

Ron, do you know what the difference in flow rate between the 165's and the 185's are? How much power do you think you'd gain if you stepped up?
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Sounds good

Ron, do you know what the difference in flow rate between the 165's and the 185's are? How much power do you think you'd gain if you stepped up?
Back in August of 05 5.0 Mustang and Super Fords magazine did a comparison between the two on a mild 347 and the 185's made 17hp and 16tq more than the 165's. I think on my supercharged engine that there would be a greater increase. Here's a link the article. http://airflowresearch.com/articles/article102/A-P1.htm

It wouldn't be worth selling my 165's and buying 185's but for Eric I would have him buy the 185's instead of the 165's. For me I'm just going to port the 165's when I do my next build.
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Back in August of 05 5.0 Mustang and Super Fords magazine did a comparison between the two on a mild 347 and the 185's made 17hp and 16tq more than the 165's. I think on my supercharged engine that there would be a greater increase. Here's a link the article. http://airflowresearch.com/articles/article102/A-P1.htm

It wouldn't be worth selling my 165's and buying 185's but for Eric I would have him buy the 185's instead of the 165's. For me I'm just going to port the 165's when I do my next build.
Great article - thanks for the link. It sounds like porting yours next time would definitely be the way to go. The only difference seems to be the valve size
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