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Old 09-09-2013, 08:48 AM   #31
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So this review is kinda bullshit. They are clearly hyping up the new Corvette. Corvette needs a dual clutch setup.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:06 PM   #32
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Track Tested: 2014 Chevy Corvette Stingray vs 2014 Nissan GT-R -- Edmunds.com - YouTube

So this review is kinda bullshit. They are clearly hyping up the new Corvette. Corvette needs a dual clutch setup.
Concur. Wonder what the cost differential is for a DC? Maybe it's like $10k, putting the entry point in the 60s instead of 50s. If so, that's probably why. It'll happen of course, but the price has to be right. The value equation is most important for Vettes.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:44 PM   #33
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How does a dual clutch help anything? They should make it an automatic clutch like the Ferraris have
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How does a dual clutch help anything? They should make it an automatic clutch like the Ferraris have
DC, which can be computer shifted, is almost instantaneous; no drop in power delivery to the wheels. Big difference in reality.
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How does a dual clutch help anything? They should make it an automatic clutch like the Ferraris have
So the Ferrari transmission at least the older ones, actually release one gear and grab another very quickly. There is a moment in time where there is no forward driving force. Dual clutch transmissions like Nissan, Porsche, and BMW use two clutches. One cut he is engaged and upon up shift the second clutch grabs the next gear and the first clutch free wheels then positions on the next gear. This results in a continuos application of driving force. It's faster and cheaper. They are worth a few MPH and about 1/2 a second.
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So the Ferrari transmission at least the older ones, actually release one gear and grab another very quickly. There is a moment in time where there is no forward driving force. Dual clutch transmissions like Nissan, Porsche, and BMW use two clutches. One cut he is engaged and upon up shift the second clutch grabs the next gear and the first clutch free wheels then positions on the next gear. This results in a continuos application of driving force. It's faster and cheaper. They are worth a few MPH and about 1/2 a second.
Cheaper than what? How? That's surprising to me, but I don't deeply understand the tech and the differences. I imagined something more complex (expensive) than a standard manual transmission.
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How does a dual clutch help anything? They should make it an automatic clutch like the Ferraris have
Almost like How Stuff Works was created for this stuff.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/dual-cl...ansmission.htm
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Cheaper than what? How? That's surprising to me, but I don't deeply understand the tech and the differences. I imagined something more complex (expensive) than a standard manual transmission.
They are in fact cheaper than the Ferrari transmission. It's easier to get the dual clutch working than a single clutch set up capable of shifting in 50 msec.
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