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Old 04-29-2011, 08:48 AM   #11
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I'd never supercharge a 4 cylinder. I knew this guy who Supercharged his Focus. I think he made 178 wheel horsepower.

Blowers just take too much power to drive to run one on a 4 cylinder, especially with low boost.
+1 A friend of mine has a 92 Integra with a b18 and Jackson Racing supercharger and some bolt ons. I beat him with my mostly stock SVO running 12psi of boost.
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:37 AM   #12
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OK so yea torque steer makes this thing quite interesting haha... If you aren't paying attention it will pull you into the other lane of a drag strip or into a wall. I do have limited slip from the factory. As far as E85d goes I have a solution for you all... http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/etha...locations.html shows all of the E85 stations in America.

The HHR SS comes with a 2.0 turbo. With just a tune and a K&n drop in air filter that thing will make 320whp. I am helping a guy near me with tuning on his HHR SS. The thing is pretty fast, it will melt tires to second gear which is cool since its an automatic. I don't know why someone would take the turbo off to supercharge it but I have heard of weirder things. The old SS cobalt was supercharged with a Eaton M62. If you turbo swap it and run E with bigger injectors 500whp is easily achievable. Blowers take too much power on anything but a V-8 has the balls to overcome that.

Anyone that wants a ride in it is welcome to hop in for a bit before or after the next meet I attend... But I tend to drive rather ummmm aggressively so maybe bring an extra pair of undies.

Just to give you an idea of how fast it is, while tuning on HP tuners it shows that I am running 60-100 mph in as low as 4.8 seconds... the tune isn't done yet either so it will get close to 4.5 or quicker.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:59 AM   #13
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I tend to agree about the blowers and V8. Mine eats over 90hp at redline.

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Old 04-29-2011, 01:15 PM   #14
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I tend to agree about the blowers and V8. Mine eats over 90hp at redline.

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How do you know how much power your blower is taking to drive?
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How do you know how much power your blower is taking to drive?
Unless I am mistaken, which happens quite often, all the supercharger companies test their products to know exactly how much parasitic drag it makes at a given RPM/PSI. That is a huge selling point for superchargers, the ones that give you the most power with the least drag increase efficiency and performance. It's almost like a flow chart on a turbo housing that shows proof of effeciency levels.
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How do you know how much power your blower is taking to drive?
GM made the claim in one of the articles in one of the many magazines I read several years ago. The 90hp figure stayed with me because it was surprising number. Here is an article about the engine in Popular Hot Rodding. The final factory hp figure was 469/443.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...ady/index.html

I am disappointed that GM stop development on the larger displacement DOHC V8, but the LSX seems to be going well and is much more compact in size.

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Unless I am mistaken, which happens quite often, all the supercharger companies test their products to know exactly how much parasitic drag it makes at a given RPM/PSI. That is a huge selling point for superchargers, the ones that give you the most power with the least drag increase efficiency and performance. It's almost like a flow chart on a turbo housing that shows proof of effeciency levels.
You are correct. The system for my engine is pretty well at its limits. Spinning it fast does bring in more boost quicker, but the intake temps really jump calling for Methanol injection to help cool not only the air but the supercharger itself. The wildest set up I seen was a car like mine that that an over boost pulley Methanol injection and twin rear mount turbos that pushed more air into the supercharger. The car dynoed at 650/600 at the rear wheels.

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The one thing I dislike about superchargers is belt slippage and belts snapping. That's the main contribution to my descision to go turbo. That and I only have 1 s/c option and that's with a Vortech blower. They are even phasing that option out and only RIPP Mods makes a "kit" for us.

This makes me really want to get mine back on the road, and update my thread here.
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GM made the claim in one of the articles in one of the many magazines I read several years ago. The 90hp figure stayed with me because it was surprising number. Here is an article about the engine in Popular Hot Rodding. The final factory hp figure was 469/443.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...ady/index.html

I am disappointed that GM stop development on the larger displacement DOHC V8, but the LSX seems to be going well and is much more compact in size.

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Well, that's embarrassing. I've never even heard of the LC3. So much for considering myself a car guy.
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