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Old 02-13-2012, 07:44 PM   #31
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Tomorrow measure from the tire instead of the ground. Mark a line on the sidewall and measure to bottom of the fender. Then lift the truck and measure again. In the picture those shocks look like they only have between 6 and 8 inch shafts. There's no way you are going to get 18 inches of travel. Measure those as well. Measure them at ride height and and full droop.

Your shocks are at about the same angle as mine and my shocks have 11.5 inch shafts. I can unbolt them at full droop and get about 1 inch more down travel and I bottom them out at full compression straight up and down. With the angle they're mounted at I don't use the full shock when twisted up.
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:58 PM   #32
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I looked up repalcement rear shocks for your truck and they have about 7 inches of travel. The Rancho 9000XL for your truck shows an extended length of 19.125 and compressed length of 12.875. The shocks on the back of my explorer are 29.830 extended and 17.320 compressed. The front fox shocks are 25.19 extended and 15.19 compressed.
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:18 PM   #33
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They change out the rear spring and shock, The coil shouldn't affect travel

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Rear Suspension: Old Man Emu, OME 912 rear springs and OME Firm shocks. Swaybar connected, and not limiting factor to articulation (shocks are). VERY impressive rear wheel travel at 18.5".

Note: This measurement is not suspension travel, but wheel travel, which can be very different. As a solid axle configuration flexes in crossed axle terrain the wheel moves in several arc's which influence an accurate measurement.
http://www.expeditionswest.com/equip...iculation.html

This is more an article about how to get more from the front end.
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:33 PM   #34
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I looked up repalcement rear shocks for your truck and they have about 7 inches of travel. The Rancho 9000XL for your truck shows an extended length of 19.125 and compressed length of 12.875. The shocks on the back of my explorer are 29.830 extended and 17.320 compressed. The front fox shocks are 25.19 extended and 15.19 compressed.
So I was wrong about the stock travel.

But I knew the stock geometry could handle crazy amounts of travel with a shock upgrade.
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Old 02-14-2012, 03:49 PM   #35
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How does the coil not effect travel? If the coil is longer then it will go into coil bind soon than the factory coil. if it is softer than the factory coil (given enough shock travel) the weight of the axle will pull the coils apart more than the heavier coil. That's assuming they are bolted to the top and bottom like a Ford Ranger coil is.

Also, I'm not talking wheel travel measured when the truck is twisted up. I'm talking about straight up and down travel. There is just no way with a 7 or even a longer 10 inch shock that you are going to get 18.5 inches of travel without using a cantilever shock setup.

When you get home, measure your suspension like I said before. I'll do the same on the my Explorer.
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How does the coil not effect travel? If the coil is longer then it will go into coil bind soon than the factory coil. if it is softer than the factory coil (given enough shock travel) the weight of the axle will pull the coils apart more than the heavier coil. That's assuming they are bolted to the top and bottom like a Ford Ranger coil is.

Also, I'm not talking wheel travel measured when the truck is twisted up. I'm talking about straight up and down travel. There is just no way with a 7 or even a longer 10 inch shock that you are going to get 18.5 inches of travel without using a cantilever shock setup.

When you get home, measure your suspension like I said before. I'll do the same on the my Explorer.
I should of said that the coil used would not affect travel, They are the same length as stock just have a higher spring rate and different coil spacing's near the ends and I know my coils are not bolted in.

For straight up and down travel I most likely have about 11 - 12 inches, looking at how much my wheel was able to travel down yesterday.

I've not heard of "cantilever shock setup" but i'm liking the idea and now it much go on to my project truck! lol


You clearly know alot more about suspension's then I do.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:21 PM   #37
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Here are some measurements from my Explorer. I obviously can't give you the compression measurement but I can tell you that the tire hits the fender and I had to roll the lip to keep it from cutting the tire up. So it should be 7+ inches.

Here's how I lifted it.



The drivers side that I took all the measurements on.



This is from the tire to the fender at ride height.



Shock at ride height.



Tire at full droop.




Shock at full droop.



This is how I measured my shocks when I first put them on to make sure that I wasn't bottoming them out. I put a zip tie on them and after jumping the truck I checked the zip ties. As you can see they are still there but just barely.



As for a cantilever setup, think of it as a rocker arm. Let's use a 1.5:1 ratio for an example. With that ratio you can use a 10 inch shock and get 15 inches of travel. Here are a couple of pictures of Dixon Brothers cantilever.




This is what I have planned for the rear of my truck. If you plan to do something like this just make sure you use a good shock that is tunable and that can be mounted at any angle like a Fox or King. I plan to use the 10 inch Fox shocks that I have in the front now and then I'm going to use a 12 inch King triple bypass on the front.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:37 PM   #38
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In the air



On the ground


its right at 7.5

I have bilstein 5150's that i was gonna use for my project. 14 inches of travel


Not sure if they will work but i'll figure it out.
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Are those the short body ones?
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Are those the short body ones?
Not sure. but i don't think so
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