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Old 05-02-2012, 11:54 AM   #51
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Let them come up with as much bullshit as possible, it will only help with your entrapment case.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:04 PM   #52
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Let them come up with as much bullshit as possible, it will only help with your entrapment case.
Well it's not really entrapment per se... its more of a violation of the 4th amendment. Illegal/unreasonable detention, search, or seizure without cause. They are detaining you without cause, since you have a registered vehicle which would mean that you have passed all smog related requirements (in this particular case). So they are subjecting you, me, or any of us, to unreasonable detention followed by a search without just cause. fortunately for us, as citizens, the Bill of Rights and following amendments of the Constitution protect us above all else. Even if a state says its 'OK', if it violates any amendment, you can fall back on that and (hopefully) come out on top so to speak

Entrapment would be a cop trying to sell you illegal equipment for you car, installing it for you, then busting you for it.
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Old 05-02-2012, 12:42 PM   #53
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Entrapment is also using your rights to a voluntary stop to search your car because you said no. It violates both. I'll hit my kill switch and have it towed before they fuck with my vehicle.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:11 PM   #54
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Entrapment is also using your rights to a voluntary stop to search your car because you said no. It violates both. I'll hit my kill switch and have it towed before they fuck with my vehicle.
True, but usually its not a very voluntary stop when there are 20 cops with spike strips, shotguns, and rifles... sounds more like a military checkpoint in Falluja, Iraq than a "smog checkpoint" in Commifornia... I swear Carl Marx, Joe Stalin, and Vladimir Lenin didn't die, they are living in Sacramento, this is starting to become a police state.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:00 PM   #55
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I agree, but telling them to step off is our right. One i'll exercise fully
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:19 PM   #56
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They do the smog stop just like they do a DUI checkpoint. They do "random" car testing. I use the word "random" extremely loose here.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:46 PM   #57
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You mean anything rice, or from the big 3?
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:23 PM   #58
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ALL rice.

You can't call them rice anymore, it's "rice and beans". I don't think I need to explain why.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:38 PM   #59
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There main objective is muscle, they're the gross poluters. Tis the way it goes.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:49 PM   #60
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There main objective is muscle, they're the gross poluters. Tis the way it goes.
Most of the muscle is older cars though. And I don't have to tell most of you guys that a well tuned car doesn't even need emissions controls to run clean. Whether its a tuned Carb or tuned fuel injection.
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