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02-06-2009, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BRUTAL64
Dyer's Blowers
7665 W. 63rd St.
Summit, IL. 60501
708-496-8100
Just given these guys from a friend. Maybe you already talked to them?
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I talked to them. No go.
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HP numbers are good and all, but they are like asking someone how much they can bench. What difference does it make if I can still kick your ass?
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02-08-2009, 11:52 AM
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I, Vettezuki
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LB Swap Meet
Went to the swap meet with Ron this morning. Unfortunately, they didn't have any parts for the blower.
We did pick up a brand new Holley 4160-3310c with Quick Fuel Metering plates for a bit less than a brand new 4160. Yes it has the vacuum secondaries. It has jets in the secondary plate. The primary plate has idle adjust but not the secondary. I think it'll work for what we're doing.
Here's some pics:
We also pulled the cam. It's a Lunati 51014.
So our setup is very similar to Ron's Cobra, except we have rather bigger heads and we're roots instead of centrifugal, but he's put down 430WHP with a slipping belt. We can expect at least this, maybe a bit more in a 2,600lbs car. Yeah haw.
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02-08-2009, 11:57 AM
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#533
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I, Vettezuki
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So Joe, unless you have some other plan, I'd like to pick up the whole blower and ship it off to PSE for evaluation. They can also check the rotors, etc. Then we'll know where we really stand. I also need to get the pan so I can take it to Ron.
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02-08-2009, 01:49 PM
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#534
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Originally Posted by Vettezuki
So Joe, unless you have some other plan, I'd like to pick up the whole blower and ship it off to PSE for evaluation. They can also check the rotors, etc. Then we'll know where we really stand. I also need to get the pan so I can take it to Ron.
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Not a problem, but I don't understand what good it will do you if they can't even tell you whether they can replace the broken parts yet. Shipping won't be cheap. They blower is kinda heavy. I'd think you would want to know if they can get or make the broken parts before paying for the shipping.
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02-08-2009, 02:45 PM
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And the truth is, if we can get the parts, I would have Littlefield Blowers refurbish it. They did it for me the last time and did a bang-up job. They're also local, so no shipping. They can't, however, get the parts for this blower. That's why I doubt PSE can get them.
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02-08-2009, 04:57 PM
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I, Vettezuki
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Originally Posted by joedls
Not a problem, but I don't understand what good it will do you if they can't even tell you whether they can replace the broken parts yet. Shipping won't be cheap. They blower is kinda heavy. I'd think you would want to know if they can get or make the broken parts before paying for the shipping.
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I have industrial shipping rate privileges (much cheaper). PSE said they have a large inventory of parts and some are interchangeable, as well as being able to do some fabrication repair. Bottom line, Ed said he wouldn't be able to know for sure if they can get it back up and running until he sees it. If you're positive the rotors aren't bent or anything like that, and it's just the bearing plate and snout, I'll take it to my uncle's machine shop and see about macining new pieces. Basically, I'd like to take possession of the blower and get'r done one way or another.
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02-08-2009, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettezuki
I have industrial shipping rate privileges (much cheaper). PSE said they have a large inventory of parts and some are interchangeable, as well as being able to do some fabrication repair. Bottom line, Ed said he wouldn't be able to know for sure if they can get it back up and running until he sees it. If you're positive the rotors aren't bent or anything like that, and it's just the bearing plate and snout, I'll take it to my uncle's machine shop and see about macining new pieces. Basically, I'd like to take possession of the blower and get'r done one way or another.
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I'll get the blower over to my shop this week. I'll call you when I have it there. I need to find a container to put it in so I don't get gear oil all over the place.
I'm pretty sure the rotors are OK. The gears need a little work and the shaft looks like it's OK, but that is just a visual inspection. Again, I would recommend finding the parts first. The price quoted by PSE seemed steep to me. I had that blower rebuilt with new bearings and seals for $350 a couple of years ago. This is the place that did it for me.
http://www.littlefieldblowers.com/
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02-09-2009, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Vettezuki
Went to the swap meet with Ron this morning. Unfortunately, they didn't have any parts for the blower.
We did pick up a brand new Holley 4160-3310c with Quick Fuel Metering plates for a bit less than a brand new 4160. Yes it has the vacuum secondaries. It has jets in the secondary plate. The primary plate has idle adjust but not the secondary. I think it'll work for what we're doing.
Here's some pics:
We also pulled the cam. It's a Lunati 51014.
So our setup is very similar to Ron's Cobra, except we have rather bigger heads and we're roots instead of centrifugal, but he's put down 430WHP with a slipping belt. We can expect at least this, maybe a bit more in a 2,600lbs car. Yeah haw.
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OK, with "TWO" metering blocks it is a "4150" with Vac secondaries.
So they started with a 4160 and changed it to a 4150???. Now, I have done that MANY times. So no problems with that.
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02-09-2009, 11:34 AM
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#539
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BRUTAL64
OK, with "TWO" metering blocks it is a "4150" with Vac secondaries.
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Actually this one is a 4160 model 3310 that originally had a metering block in the primary and a metering plate in the secondary. The owner upgraded it to dual Quick Fuel metering blocks. We checked the jets and they are 66 in the primary and 76 in the secondary. We were looking for a 4150 DP but couldn't find one. Then we came accross this vacuum secondary one and it was a good price. It should work great with this engine in either configuration we run, N/A or blown.
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02-09-2009, 11:41 AM
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#540
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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396
Actually this one is a 4160 model 3310 that originally had only one metering plate in the primary. The owner upgraded it to dual Quick Fuel metering plates. We checked the jets and they are 66 in the primary and 76 in the secondary. We were looking for a 4150 DP but couldn't find one. Then we came accross this vacuum secondary one and it was a good price. It should work great with this engine in either configuration we run, N/A or blown.
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Interesting choose.
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