[BRUTAL64]

Originally Posted by joedls

The intake is going to depend on whether or not I can get this blower back together. If not, someone needs to decide what intake will be used. Does anyone make a header for this swap?

What we may want to discuss here is this:

Using 351 Windsor heads or a set of cheap alum heads.


I'll be more than happy to port the 302 heads, it's just the exhaust port --no matter what I do-- it's going to be too small so are the stock valves.

Saturday night we'll sit down and talk about the best way to go.

Don't know on the headers yet, we could go with shorties if nothing else is out there.

[Vettezuki]

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64

What we may want to discuss here is this:

Using 351 Windsor heads or a set of cheap alum heads.


I'll be more than happy to port the 302 heads, it's just the exhaust port --no matter what I do-- it's going to be too small so are the stock valves.

Saturday night we'll sit down and talk about the best way to go.

Don't know on the headers yet, we could go with shorties if nothing else is out there.

Open question for all:

What are the price points for other heads?
351W
Alum
?

For money and time invested, it kinda sounds like we'll get a better ROI on using different heads perhaps.

[94cobra69ss396]

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64

Don't know on the headers yet, we could go with shorties if nothing else is out there.

...Full Length 1-3/4" Headers for 2nd gen/Ford conversion...
Jim Galloway reports he is very happy using the BBK #15690 headers on his conversion. BBK calls them "351 Swap Headers", and they come with 1-3/4" primaries, 3/8" flanges, and dome style collectors. They are available in chrome (#1569) and ceramic coated (#15690) finishes, and you can get them from Summit Racing.

[enkeivette]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

Sean will give you two hugs.

Hugs is code for sloppy mouth sex.

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

Open question for all:

What are the price points for other heads?
351W
Alum
?

For money and time invested, it kinda sounds like we'll get a better ROI on using different heads perhaps.

I vote for better E-Bay heads. An MLS HG will likely cost $180 for a pair, so it doesn't seem worth it to invest nearly $200 in HGs and cheap out on the heads, when we will likely want to pull the choked out heads after we get our first 13 second time slip.

I'm not a Ford guy, so I won't make specific head suggestions. But we should be checking E-Bay and craigslist for some better heads periodically.

[BRUTAL64]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

Open question for all:

What are the price points for other heads?
351W
Alum
?

For money and time invested, it kinda sounds like we'll get a better ROI on using different heads perhaps.

07GTPONY has a set of 351w's that we could talk to him about. He's had some work done but aren't finished. Just a thought.
Ford Aluminum Tri-Pro 5.0 302/351-W $299.00 $275.00


100% Satisfaction Guaranteed!

http://www.tristatecylinderhead.com/catalog/

Single Head Bare
60cc Combustion Chamber
Choice Of 175cc Intake
190cc Intake Runners
210cc Intake Runners
Phosphor Bronze Valve Guides


100% Satisfaction Guaranteed!

Single Head Built Complete $399.00
3/8" Screw-in Studs & Guide Plates
Stainless 2.055" or 2.02" Intake Valves
Stainless 1.600" Exhaust Valves
Performace Springs Good To .550" Hyd. Roller
*130 psi @ 1.800" (closed)
*340 psi @ 1.258" (open)

These are the guys I got my heads from.

[Vettezuki]

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64

07GTPONY has a set of 351w's that we could talk to him about. He's had some work done but aren't finished. Just a thought.
Ford Aluminum Tri-Pro 5.0 302/351-W $299.00 $275.00


100% Satisfaction Guaranteed!

http://www.tristatecylinderhead.com/catalog/

Single Head Bare
60cc Combustion Chamber
Choice Of 175cc Intake
190cc Intake Runners
210cc Intake Runners
Phosphor Bronze Valve Guides


100% Satisfaction Guaranteed!

Single Head Built Complete $399.00
3/8" Screw-in Studs & Guide Plates
Stainless 2.055" or 2.02" Intake Valves
Stainless 1.600" Exhaust Valves
Performace Springs Good To .550" Hyd. Roller
*130 psi @ 1.800" (closed)
*340 psi @ 1.258" (open)

Maybe 07GTPONY would be interested by getting involved with a donation. Wink wink nod nod. You know the rules. Donate or put in some real labor and (if you are checked out driver) you can drive the thing when done.


If not, which is fine too of course if he has other plans, which of the above would you recommend? Our application will be boosted. Whether we get the 174 to work or something else . . .

[BRUTAL64]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

Maybe 07GTPONY would be interested by getting involved with a donation. Wink wink nod nod. You know the rules. Donate or put in some real labor and (if you are checked out driver) you can drive the thing when done.


If not, which is fine too of course if he has other plans, which of the above would you recommend? Our application will be boosted. Whether we get the 174 to work or something else . . .

I talked to Pony boy here at work, he will be there Saturday.

Forced induction, is what I've always thought we will go. Fixing the 174 should not be a real problem.

Alum heads would be best all around. But cost---------------
I think I can drive a 4 speed

[enkeivette]

351 W
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBF-C...1%7C240%3A1318

[BRUTAL64]

Originally Posted by enkeivette

351 W
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBF-C...1%7C240%3A1318

Valves are too small. Need chamber size.

Alum heads are really good for forced induction. The aftermaket heads will have the latest "good" chambers and will take more boost than cast iron factory.

With only 4 head bolts per cylinder we will need to think "O" rings or a VERY special head gasket. I have a DVD on this somewhere.

[Vettezuki]

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64

Valves are too small. Need chamber size.

Alum heads are really good for forced induction. The aftermaket heads will have the latest "good" chambers and will take more boost than cast iron factory.

My extreme upper limit for heads, fully assembled, with MLS gaskets is $1k. Link to your recommendation.

Heads are galdurned important for power, so a little extra scratch here is ok. It increases the value and awesomeness of the car in a critical area.

FUNCTIONAL COMPATIBILITY
Should we care so much about matching this head choice to whatever FI we end up with? We're assuming the 174 can be repaired, but if it can't and we go with say a 6/8-71 Turbo (which I have a soft spot for), or if bird can make a bombass hookup with Wieand, will the same heads be equally awesome. I'm assuming yes. The cam is obviously a different story.