[94cobra69ss396]

Originally Posted by SeanPlunk

Very true. I've heard tuning the SHO is difficult at this point

All new cars are difficult to tune until they figure out the code. Give the aftermarket a year and they will have hundreds of tunes. I did read though that the turbos are really small and that is going to be your limiting factor.

[SeanPlunk]

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396

All new cars are difficult to tune until they figure out the code. Give the aftermarket a year and they will have hundreds of tunes. I did read though that the turbos are really small and that is going to be your limiting factor.

True. I have also heard the other limiting factor may be the transaxle. In the FWD setup I guess it can't handle the torque. Now in the Mustang though it wouldn't be a problem

[BRIAN]

Yeah the new SHO looks nice from a luxury point of view, I don't think I would want to mess with tuning a ride like that in the first place. Although I don't doubt the 8 year old's of today will be picking these up and modding them blindly 10 years from now.

[Leedom]

A turbo is quickly pumped up in HP but has a lower ceiling. Bang for buck can you really go wroing with the TT V6? Did I just say that... must be the captain (moragn) talking.

[BADDASSC6]

Originally Posted by SeanPlunk

Yeah, the reason I went with the V6 TT is because of the forged parts, and I figure you could easily get to 500hp with around 1k in mods. The 5.0 obviously wouldn't be forged and putting a blower on would be more money, but ultimately it'd be a lost faster

?????? Why wouldn't it be forged???? The 4.6 DOHC had forged internals????


Here is what it comes down to:
Budget build go witht the six get a boost controller and ditch the cats.
Want to dominate go with the 8.

[eric97srad]

Originally Posted by SeanPlunk

Given the choice (I know this is blasphemy), my vote goes for the TT V6. For purposes of this poll, assume you are choosing a starting point and would mod each car according to personal preference.

Yes, blasphemy.

Bang for the buck factor aside, I'd still have to go for the V8 in the Mustang. It's only logical... Now, take that TTV6 and put it in yet another attempt at a new T-bird (something similar to the late 80's early 90's SC) and I could go that route for the right price.

[94cobra69ss396]

I just read an article in Popular Hot Rodding about the EcoBoost V6. Turns out that it has a forged crank but the rods and pistons are cast. Even with those they are still using 10:1 compression and 12psi of boost and it can run on 87 octane. It's all because of the direct injection. However, for added safety the Bosch ECU can pull out up to 20 degrees of timing.

It also said that the turbos are 48mm Garrett GT15s. They are said to be capable of 200hp a piece so it looks like peak hp will be around 400 at the flywheel unless the turbos are upgraded. I'm not sure that you would want to go any higher than that with cast pistons anyways. Hopefully they will offer a higher hp version later on that has forged pistons and rods.

[SeanPlunk]

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396

I just read an article in Popular Hot Rodding about the EcoBoost V6. Turns out that it has a forged crank but the rods and pistons are cast. Even with those they are still using 10:1 compression and 12psi of boost and it can run on 87 octane. It's all because of the direct injection. However, for added safety the Bosch ECU can pull out up to 20 degrees of timing.

It also said that the turbos are 48mm Garrett GT15s. They are said to be capable of 200hp a piece so it looks like peak hp will be around 400 at the flywheel unless the turbos are upgraded. I'm not sure that you would want to go any higher than that with cast pistons anyways. Hopefully they will offer a higher hp version later on that has forged pistons and rods.

Great info - thanks!

It's interesting though, I have heard from a couple Ford insider guys that the EcoBoost is good for about 450hp as is. Maybe those mules had bigger turbos

[trymev8]

if i were to buy an american car it would have to have a v8. It is a heritage thing in my opinion.

[Leedom]

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396

Turns out that it has a forged crank but the rods and pistons are cast. Even with those they are still using 10:1 compression...

I think they made another engine like that. If I could only remember which one?