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Old 01-17-2009, 09:37 PM   #241
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What kind of fuel pump set up do we need?

I'm still considering between using a drop in the stock tank or getting serious and putting in a little fuel cell. But how much flow/pressure, etc. Sorry don't knwo much about this. All I know is that it's very low pressure.

Since we haven't bought a carb yet, and maybe a carb will flow enough for this small of an engine/blower, we could set it up for E85. It's basically race gas at the price of Super, with lots of awesome properties for forced induction. Do you guys want to consider this? I can buy it with CornFed in larger quantities and store it. We're going to have to transport fuel anyway. . . and it adds a little flavor. The major advantage for us is that it would allow to run a lot more timing (it's about 105 octane) and since it's 85% alcohol, it will massively cool the intake charge.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:41 PM   #242
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Of course, there's no point to go after the advantages of E85 for more power, if we're going to be at the blocks limit with a simple mix of super and Race Gas or Torco. At what BHP do these blocks tend to do naughty things?
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:47 PM   #243
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What kind of fuel pump set up do we need?

I'm still considering between using a drop in the stock tank or getting serious and putting in a little fuel cell. But how much flow/pressure, etc. Sorry don't knwo much about this. All I know is that it's very low pressure.

Since we haven't bought a carb yet, and maybe a carb will flow enough for this small of an engine/blower, we could set it up for E85. It's basically race gas at the price of Super, with lots of awesome properties for forced induction. Do you guys want to consider this? I can buy it with CornFed in larger quantities and store it. We're going to have to transport fuel anyway. . . and it adds a little flavor.
4PSI, about a 100 GPH will support 600 HP. An Edelbrock/Carter racing mech pump is fine. The cheaper rail mount elec pumps are fine. Elec has the advantge of being hooked into a kill switch.(Both about $100)
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:51 PM   #244
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I forgot to mention I have a large Spal fan we can use/you can have. Have your buddy look for a used elec pump at Pomona.
We used to run with no belts, and a marine battery in the trunk for traction. Car ran all day on a full charge.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:56 PM   #245
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I forgot to mention I have a large Spal fan we can use/you can have. Have your buddy look for a used elec pump at Pomona.
We used to run with no belts, and a marine battery in the trunk for traction. Car ran all day on a full charge.
Que es Spal fan? I have an electric fan that was donated by kdracer73. Size-wise it looks like it'll fit in the space for the rad just about perfect. Good to keep in mind though.

How much are marine batteries? Please provide a link to wat you're talking about as I know nuting.
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Que es Spal fan? I have an electric fan that was donated by kdracer73. Size-wise it looks like it'll fit in the space for the rad just about perfect. Good to keep in mind though.

How much are marine batteries? Please provide a link to wat you're talking about as I know nuting.
http://www.lifelinebatteries.com/marineflyer.php?id=8

That thing will put 120lbs over the rear axle, and run that car all day long on a charge.
No alt. No lights. Ignition draws approx 4 amps.
As I remember, we didn't even run a fan. Just a 12volt bilge pump for coolant circ. (Pretty advanced for 1973,huh?) I am quite sure the harmonic balancer didn't even have a pulley on it.
I don't have 1 dam picture of that car, dammit.
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This is a budget project isn't it? We're going with a carb, the stock tank and a mechanical pump will be fine. I'd consider bending some 3/8 hardline for it, but that's about all that she'll need.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:37 PM   #248
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I picked up an oil pan from an 87 Mustang today for $5 at the swap meet, if you wanna use that. I also picked up some other goodies for my 68 GT/CS. Unfortunately, no 174 blower parts.
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I picked up an oil pan from an 87 Mustang today for $5 at the swap meet, if you wanna use that. I also picked up some other goodies for my 68 GT/CS. Unfortunately, no 174 blower parts.
I'm growing slightly concerned about finding the necessary parts for the 174. We'll need to have a backup.
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I'm growing slightly concerned about finding the necessary parts for the 174. We'll need to have a backup.
Just distract Adam while I pull that blower off his Vette.
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