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Old 05-19-2009, 02:08 PM   #11
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i would be interested to be running 2 different maps on my car.

e85= race map setup
91 pump=map

forced induction imports welcome here???

what size injectors would be sufficient enough to run a e85 map??

taking a quick peep inside this thread. ill have my eye on it.
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:34 PM   #12
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i would be interested to be running 2 different maps on my car.

e85= race map setup
91 pump=map

forced induction imports welcome here???

what size injectors would be sufficient enough to run a e85 map??

taking a quick peep inside this thread. ill have my eye on it.
We do a lot of work for imports. We modify injectors to numerous applications.

All our injectors will work with E85 except for the older Bosch style, which is not good for your application anyway. The difference is the flow rate. Gasoline is a .73 Specific Gravity, Alchol is .68 so it's not that different.

I can make up to 2200 CC flow rates for the imports, no problem. You should be able to get away with the same injector for both, just changing the pulse with and duty cycle slightly.

Forced induction depending on boost can be from 900-1600CC, you can go to our website and use the calculator on our website to determine size, or give me some parameters of the motor and we can come up with a solution.

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Old 05-19-2009, 07:50 PM   #13
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I know what you mean by not wanting to work for a boss..hell, 23 years in business here myself. I run 65 lb injectors sold by FAST. Can they be modified to flow maybe 75 or 80? I am getting close to 90% duty cycle at max power..
John (Jsup) asked me to reply to you. The FAST Injectors can be modified to flow 75-80lbs but they are the older style injector. The better solution would be to get a set of our rebuilds that the newer style Bosch III. These are rebuilt, flow matched and carry the lifetime warranty and we can do them for the same price, $199, as modifying yours. And this way you only pay shipping one way instead of two ways so its even cheaper.

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Old 05-19-2009, 08:56 PM   #14
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John (Jsup) asked me to reply to you. The FAST Injectors can be modified to flow 75-80lbs but they are the older style injector. The better solution would be to get a set of our rebuilds that the newer style Bosch III. These are rebuilt, flow matched and carry the lifetime warranty and we can do them for the same price, $199, as modifying yours. And this way you only pay shipping one way instead of two ways so its even cheaper.

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Older style?...please explain. They are about 1 year old. Are the Bosch III injectors low impedance? Thanks, Gary.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:01 PM   #15
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Older style?...please explain. They are about 1 year old. Are the Bosch III injectors low impedance? Thanks, Gary.
When I went to their website, they pictured Bosch II design. Bosch III and the newer EV14s are both high impedance. If they are a year old, could have sold you older Bosch IIs.

Typically all injectors are high impedance until you hit 60LBS. Then they go low impedance. The motors in the injector can not over come more than 60 lbs at high impedance.

Now, I understand your motor is a monster, so what are you running now? If your ECU supports low impedance, we can go that route. I need to know what you have, to determine what you need. I suspect with your large motor, you may require low impedance.

Those also can look like the 160s from Bosch, which have a similar design from an aesthetic view.
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Old 05-25-2009, 03:47 PM   #16
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What is the ideal duty cycle range for WOT? I know you just don't want to oversize injectors to your engine too much, I guess mostly because it will be difficult to tune a proper A/F. BUt is 80-90% at WOT ok? That's about where I'm at (according to some data logging during some runs).
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Old 05-25-2009, 04:36 PM   #17
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What is the ideal duty cycle range for WOT? I know you just don't want to oversize injectors to your engine too much, I guess mostly because it will be difficult to tune a proper A/F. BUt is 80-90% at WOT ok? That's about where I'm at (according to some data logging during some runs).
We like to spec at 80-85%. This leaves some room for overhead because as you know, there is ALWAYS another mod down the road. Some will tell you 90-95% but I prefer to err on the side of caution.

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Old 07-24-2009, 01:24 AM   #18
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How much would a set of injectors cost for a BMW 5.0L V12?
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Old 07-24-2009, 12:26 PM   #19
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Old 07-24-2009, 02:09 PM   #20
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We like to spec at 80-85%. This leaves some room for overhead because as you know, there is ALWAYS another mod down the road. Some will tell you 90-95% but I prefer to err on the side of caution.
I was about to say 80-85%. My current setup is about 82-83% on my Eclipse with the bigger injectors. Its much smoother now than it used to be.
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