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08-16-2011, 09:43 AM
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Just go online to the CARB website and print out the certification page for any header that passes then stamp the number onto the headers. If you'd like I can even "find" a tag for you...
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If they do not look legit-- he is F'ed. Not going to Juans smog shop...going to the state Ref...They can be hard assed mofos.
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08-16-2011, 10:21 AM
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pain's fun, hit me again
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Im not saying to stamp them after a bottle of jack and using the one eye with a smile technique. Some good steel stamps and a line of tape will keep them looking legit. I also have aluminum ID tags that could be fashioned for use as well.
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Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely — lay your life before him
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08-16-2011, 10:44 AM
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Fast & Filthy
Join Date: Jun 2008
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I'm just leaving it all stock until after it is certified.
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08-16-2011, 04:06 PM
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I, Vettezuki
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane
Im not saying to stamp them after a bottle of jack and using the one eye with a smile technique. Some good steel stamps and a line of tape will keep them looking legit. I also have aluminum ID tags that could be fashioned for use as well.
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Mine are stamped. Not perfect, but looks like they could have come out of a factory. I'm not sure he checked casting numbers, but if he did, he would have seen the correct numbers stamped into the side.
For a guy like Ron who can and enjoys wrenching all the time, leaving it stock and keeping it simple as possible to begin with is a good way to go to get through the state refs, who as Paul pointed out and I can personally attest to, are NOTHING like your average smog tech.
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08-16-2011, 04:23 PM
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pain's fun, hit me again
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I agree, but i make ID tags all day long that need to look factory, and been doing it for years. Smog stuff is no different, so it could be in theory used in a similar situation, not that I have ever done so
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Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely — lay your life before him
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08-16-2011, 11:37 PM
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And talking bought this on a open forum....not recommended...got this email after answering a question on the z28 website
"Hi,
I saw your post regarding the smog check stuff. I work for BAR . Anyway, The fines/training for a shop or tech certifying a vehicle not in compliance are as follows:
first time: $500 fine to the shop, 8 hours training for the tech.
2nd time $1000/16 hours training
3rd time $2000.clean air car course (currently 68 hours)
4th time-file for revocation.
And BAR never buys cars off of Craigslist.
Anyway, I believe you're a tech in OC? I work in the Placentia field office.
Doug"
I was responding to a question about why a smog shop refused to smog a car that had aftermarket parts with EO#s. What I told him was that smog tech was either lazy, or scared it was a undercover car. The process we are supposed to go through to verify parts with EO# can be a PITA. And I mentioned that BAR has been buying cars off craigslist that should not have passed a smog check. And busting the techs for felonies. I sent him this link to their own newsletter....scroll down to page 7
http://www.autorepair.ca.gov/80_BARR...C_Fall2009.pdf
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08-17-2011, 01:28 AM
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pain's fun, hit me again
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Yeah I didnt want to either, maybe a mod should go back and delete them. But I also didnt do, or have been proven to do anything illegal, so im probably safe, hypothetical evaluations dont warrant a crime 
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Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely — lay your life before him
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08-17-2011, 02:44 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Originally Posted by kdracer73
And talking bought this on a open forum....not recommended...got this email after answering a question on the z28 website
"Hi,
I saw your post regarding the smog check stuff. I work for BAR . Anyway, The fines/training for a shop or tech certifying a vehicle not in compliance are as follows:
first time: $500 fine to the shop, 8 hours training for the tech.
2nd time $1000/16 hours training
3rd time $2000.clean air car course (currently 68 hours)
4th time-file for revocation.
And BAR never buys cars off of Craigslist.
Anyway, I believe you're a tech in OC? I work in the Placentia field office.
Doug"
I was responding to a question about why a smog shop refused to smog a car that had aftermarket parts with EO#s. What I told him was that smog tech was either lazy, or scared it was a undercover car. The process we are supposed to go through to verify parts with EO# can be a PITA. And I mentioned that BAR has been buying cars off craigslist that should not have passed a smog check. And busting the techs for felonies. I sent him this link to their own newsletter....scroll down to page 7
http://www.autorepair.ca.gov/80_BARR...C_Fall2009.pdf |
He's proud of that shit, being a lackey, what a homo 
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08-17-2011, 08:29 AM
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Fast & Filthy
Join Date: Jun 2008
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One of the guys in our 4x4 club works for BAR which is why I'm doing the swap with everything stock. I plan to do upgrades with E.O numbers later but I don't want to go through the hassle of proving they're legal with the swap.
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08-17-2011, 09:05 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Good plan ^
....Don't mean to be the party killer, but I just spent a week in
smog lic update training. The whole week was spent on how thw BAR is increasing enforcment and cracking down on all the shady stuff they know goes on. The old laws made enforcment hard for them. AB2289(now signed into law) has lots of changes that make enforcment much easier for them. They talked about how they doubled enforcment staff and spent the week scaring the crap out of us 
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