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06-27-2012, 02:46 PM
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First this is a gas engine, it won't be seeing 18:1 compression. I've melted pistons with too much boost, and blown head gaskets, my now reused for the 4th time ARP head BOLTS have never been a problem, and I would be STUNNED if they ever were.
We apply power to the ground with FIVE studs, but you think a head is going to pop off with SEVENTEEN bolts holding it on per side? Excuse me while I masturbate the air. And sorry for not patting you on the back to assit you in justifying your investment.
The Snake is running a roots blower, meaning, it won't see 13lbs of boost. My motor is seeing 13 lbs of boost, same basic engine, with never a head bolt issue. Now excuse me while I go respond to the massive amounts of threads where people are having engine issues due to head bolts.
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06-28-2012, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by enkeivette
First this is a gas engine, it won't be seeing 18:1 compression. I've melted pistons with too much boost, and blown head gaskets, my now reused for the 4th time ARP head BOLTS have never been a problem, and I would be STUNNED if they ever were.
We apply power to the ground with FIVE studs, but you think a head is going to pop off with SEVENTEEN bolts holding it on per side? Excuse me while I masturbate the air. And sorry for not patting you on the back to assit you in justifying your investment.
The Snake is running a roots blower, meaning, it won't see 13lbs of boost. My motor is seeing 13 lbs of boost, same basic engine, with never a head bolt issue. Now excuse me while I go respond to the massive amounts of threads where people are having engine issues due to head bolts.
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The compression has nothing to do with needing studs on a diesel, its the clamping force when increasing boost. Secondly you're comparing two COMPLETELY different engines. A sbc has a different bolt pattern for the head, you know that EXTRA bolt per cylinder the sbf doesnt have, plus there is less sealing surface on the sbf. I'm not talking about in general, i'm talking about the ACTUAL engine we're using which has a long running history of having head gasket issues. Especially when using a roots type blower that puts a completely different type of stress on the block that an eaton or centri does.
For the record, i'm not justifying my investment, i've staed many times in ALOT of threads that my cost on the studs is less then what someone can buy a set of bolts for. At that point why the fuck would i downgrade? Just to say I did? I didnt think so.
Btw a sbf only has 10 bolts per side, not 17, that's a big difference especially when we're talking boost.
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06-28-2012, 09:43 AM
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Wow, I didnt realize it only had ten... thats just barely over 2 per cylinder, shitty design. Ok, nm.
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06-28-2012, 10:58 AM
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Wow, I didnt realize it only had ten... thats just barely over 2 per cylinder, shitty design. Ok, nm.
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Very shitty design. Why do you think i'm such a big advocate of the LSx? What can you really expect from an engine designed in '61? Though "technically" the lsx has the same number of head bolts. Not really though.
MLS HG's will help greatly but studs are needed on a sbf with boost.
For those that dont remember, i went with MLS HG's, converted the block to 1/2" hardware and ran 12pt studs.
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07-06-2012, 03:27 AM
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Used Joe's contribution to buy MLS HGs and head studs. enkeivette will be coming in August to finish up the rear bumper and spray primer (gonna need some love to get to the primer stage thoguh as we now have some flash rust . . no worm rust though). We'll install the heads when it's convenient for 94cobra69ss396
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07-06-2012, 01:50 PM
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Did I read right, we're running the garbage e6's?
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07-06-2012, 02:35 PM
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Did I read right, we're running the garbage e6's?
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No. We have some heads that are basically Chinese versions of Victor Juniors (actually cast in the same factory/line).
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07-06-2012, 11:24 PM
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Oh ok
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07-15-2012, 05:46 PM
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Picked up HGs and Studs from guy last night. In the next month or so, dpeending on Ron's avilability we can button up some of top end. enkeivette is coming in August to work on the bumper and possibly prime it.
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10-15-2012, 01:58 PM
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NEEDED: Cheap ass set of wheels and tires to move this car around in the coming months. 5x114.3
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