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06-09-2013, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane
Can't argue cause I agree. They're fucked in the head.
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You bastard, happy b day btw. You had a b day recently ya?
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06-09-2013, 10:46 PM
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Retracted. Talking with my lesbian friend about it, she had a very interesting perspective. More later... Also, vanilla coke plus bacardi, winning.
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06-09-2013, 10:57 PM
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pain's fun, hit me again
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Originally Posted by enkeivette
You bastard, happy b day btw. You had a b day recently ya?
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Yup. Day before Chuck's
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lee
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely — lay your life before him
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06-09-2013, 11:35 PM
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I, Vettezuki
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Originally Posted by enkeivette
Yes yes, Adams queer, haha. But seriously, am I crazy? Or is there really no single thing that makes us feel like we're a certain gender? Philosophy bomb dropped, someone argue with me  |
If you want to say a transgender person's naturally occurring neurobiology affects their self-image and is incongruous with their sex identity (morphology: male vs. female) and describe that as "fucked in the head", then there's not so much to argue about other than your not so sensitive choice of words. Bottom line, they can lead perfectly happy and fulfilling lives by aligning their gender self-identity and sexual morphology. Changing morphology is trivial compared to changing the underlying neuro-biology (which is not all that well understood, and may simply be impossible). But by refusing to align them they create a situation of misery for themselves.
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06-09-2013, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettezuki
If you want to say a transgender person's naturally occurring neurobiology affects their self-image and is incongruous with their sex identity (morphology: male vs. female) and describe that as "fucked in the head", then there's not so much to argue about other than your not so sensitive choice of words. Bottom line, they can lead perfectly happy and fulfilling lives by aligning their gender self-identity and sexual morphology. Changing morphology is trivial compared to changing the underlying neuro-biology (which is not all that well understood, and may simply be impossible). But by refusing to align them they create a situation of misery for themselves.
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Would you solely define internal struggle and conflict as misery?
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06-10-2013, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Vettezuki
If you want to say a transgender person's naturally occurring neurobiology affects their self-image and is incongruous with their sex identity (morphology: male vs. female) and describe that as "fucked in the head", then there's not so much to argue about other than your not so sensitive choice of words. Bottom line, they can lead perfectly happy and fulfilling lives by aligning their gender self-identity and sexual morphology. Changing morphology is trivial compared to changing the underlying neuro-biology (which is not all that well understood, and may simply be impossible). But by refusing to align them they create a situation of misery for themselves.
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That sounds really good, Im going to read it again when Im sober.
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06-10-2013, 12:14 AM
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I, Vettezuki
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Originally Posted by fiveohwblow
Would you solely define internal struggle and conflict as misery?
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No, misery and conflict are not necessarily equivalent terms. Suffering would be closer. It's an interesting question, but one of semantics really.
If the rates of depression and suicide, especially among LGBT teens is any indication, misery is probably the right word in their case.
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06-10-2013, 12:16 AM
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I, Vettezuki
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That sounds really good, Im going to read it again when Im sober.
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a.k.a Tuesday?
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06-10-2013, 12:52 AM
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a.k.a Tuesday?
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Taco Tuesday? Youre fuckin high!!! - Will Ferrel
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06-10-2013, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Vettezuki
If you want to say a transgender person's naturally occurring neurobiology affects their self-image and is incongruous with their sex identity (morphology: male vs. female) and describe that as "fucked in the head", then there's not so much to argue about other than your not so sensitive choice of words. Bottom line, they can lead perfectly happy and fulfilling lives by aligning their gender self-identity and sexual morphology. Changing morphology is trivial compared to changing the underlying neuro-biology (which is not all that well understood, and may simply be impossible). But by refusing to align them they create a situation of misery for themselves.
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Ok here we go. No. Im saying there is no such separate thing as sex identity, there is only sexual orientation (which is not sex identity), cultural customs, and self-image. Phones dying, post more in a sec!
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