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01-12-2009, 02:35 AM
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BTW, unless I'm a total crack head (possible) and incapable of using a tape measure, the engine will have to swtich from a front to rear sump setup. What parts can be kept (pan?) and what needs to change (pickup?)?
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01-12-2009, 08:03 AM
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BTW, unless I'm a total crack head (possible) and incapable of using a tape measure, the engine will have to swtich from a front to rear sump setup. What parts can be kept (pan?) and what needs to change (pickup?)?
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That's it. The pan and the pick-up.
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HP numbers are good and all, but they are like asking someone how much they can bench. What difference does it make if I can still kick your ass?
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01-12-2009, 09:56 AM
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Glenn, did you say you had a carb that could be used, or know where we could get one that would be appropriate on the cheap? I'm assuming we could get a used one, and somebody here could rebuild it and set it up for our purpose.
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What I said was, I'm sure we could find a Holley somwhere we could use to get things going.  I do have a 500 CFM Carter laying around. That's half of what we need. 
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01-12-2009, 11:54 AM
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What I said was, I'm sure we could find a Holley somwhere we could use to get things going. I do have a 500 CFM Carter laying around. That's half of what we need. |
I'll keep my eyes open on Craigslist/eBay for a 750 Holley with 4 corner idle set. My understanding is that since the carb goes on top of the blower, it's a "pull through" not a "blow throw" setup and there's effectively no advantage to a "blower carb". Am I thinking correctly?
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01-12-2009, 12:17 PM
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I'll keep my eyes open on Craigslist/eBay for a 750 Holley with 4 corner idle set. My understanding is that since the carb goes on top of the blower, it's a "pull through" not a "blow throw" setup and there's effectively no advantage to a "blower carb". Am I thinking correctly?
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Not exactly. The power valve will not operate correctly without referencing manifold vacuum/boost, causing the engine to run rich during normal operation. Both Holley and Demon has a carb for roots style blowers.
But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. I need to make sure I can get this blower functional before we go purchasing a carb for it.
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01-12-2009, 12:23 PM
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Not exactly. The power valve will not operate correctly without referencing manifold vacuum/boost, causing the engine to run rich during normal operation. Both Holley and Demon has a carb for roots style blowers.
But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. I need to make sure I can get this blower functional before we go purchasing a carb for it.
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Roger. I'll put the carb acquisition into a holding pattern until you give clearance. Can you post pics of the parts that are needed? I think you said shaft housing and end plate. I'll do some rooting around and see what I can find.
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01-12-2009, 12:53 PM
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Roger. I'll put the carb acquisition into a holding pattern until you give clearance. Can you post pics of the parts that are needed? I think you said shaft housing and end plate. I'll do some rooting around and see what I can find.
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I'll take some pics tonight when I get home.
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01-12-2009, 01:47 PM
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Not exactly. The power valve will not operate correctly without referencing manifold vacuum/boost, causing the engine to run rich during normal operation. Both Holley and Demon has a carb for roots style blowers.
But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. I need to make sure I can get this blower functional before we go purchasing a carb for it.
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Years ago, we were able to get Holleys to work with Roots Blower. This was long before there were "blower" carbs. It is still pull thru as with a NA motor. But I've heard that Blower Carbs are easier to tune for roots. Haven't used one.
The last Roots steet car I built 1990 had a BM and I used a 750 Double pumper and it ran great, no over richness when I tuned the carb. 
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01-12-2009, 03:42 PM
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Years ago, we were able to get Holleys to work with Roots Blower. This was long before there were "blower" carbs. It is still pull thru as with a NA motor. But I've heard that Blower Carbs are easier to tune for roots. Haven't used one.
The last Roots steet car I built 1990 had a BM and I used a 750 Double pumper and it ran great, no over richness when I tuned the carb. |
Yeah, we used to have distributors with points in them, too. Doesn't mean I still wanna do it.
BTW, Glen, you're an old man!!! 
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01-12-2009, 04:20 PM
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You say that here, but can you say that to me in person????
Actually points are a VERY reliable way to go.
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