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01-17-2009, 07:34 PM
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BTW. I'll be going to Pomona. Anything you want me to be on the lookout for?
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HP numbers are good and all, but they are like asking someone how much they can bench. What difference does it make if I can still kick your ass?
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01-17-2009, 07:54 PM
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#112
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I, Vettezuki
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by joedls
BTW. I'll be going to Pomona. Anything you want me to be on the lookout for?
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Don't knwo what all they have there, since I've never been, but:
- Repair Parts for the 174
- Holley 750 CFM Carb with four corner idle set (if on the pretty cheap side relative to new, might give that a whirl first)
- Radiator for an 2nd Gen RX-7, we don't have one
- Alternator w/Bracket
- Starter
These I can get new from Summit, but if you see them cheap:
- Scatter Shield for Top Loader
- Long Tube Swap Headers for SBF
I trust your judgement, send me the bill.
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01-17-2009, 08:21 PM
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#113
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I, Vettezuki
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Originally Posted by joedls
So how many tire revs per mile does your sheet calculate? Because I calculated the revs per mile using the exact circumference of what a 275-60-15 tire should be. I don't allow for any variances and frankly I don't know how your spreadsheet could do that accurately, considering different variances between tire, tranny, and rear-end manufacturers.
Here is my calculation.
(((275/25.4)*.6)*2)+15 = 27.992125 (Tire diameter)
27.992125 * 3.1416 = 87.940059 (Tire circumference in inches)
87.940059/12 = 7.3283382 (Tire circumference in feet)
5280/7.3283382 = 720.49076 (tire revolutions per mile)
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Here's the Excel Fomula for Revs Per Mile I'm using:
=(63360/(((B9/25.4*(D9/100)*2)+F9)*3.141597)) *0.99
B9 = Section Width
D9 = Aspect Ratio
F9 = Rim Diamter
It's basically the same as yours, EXCEPT for the last multiplication. This actually reduces the number of revs per mile and therefore increase the speed for a given RPM. I believe it was the original desginers intention to account for growth in the tire as a function of heat/pressure and rotational inertia.
However, my sheet also inlucdes a big reduction when calculating the speed for a given tire/axle/gear @ RPM x.
=((D18/(B21*B28*H9))*60)*0.97
D18= RPM (shift or redline, or whatever you want to put in, I'm assuming 6k)
B21=Gear ratio
B28=Axle ratio
H9=tire revs per mile
The final multiplication is an additional reduction I forgot about. If I had to guess it's for nonlockup auto trans, but that's just a guess. Thanks for the catch.
I'll take out these constants for future calculations so we're comparing apples to apples.
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01-17-2009, 08:22 PM
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#114
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vettezuki
Don't knwo what all they have there, since I've never been, but:
- Repair Parts for the 174
- Holley 750 CFM Carb with four corner idle set (if on the pretty cheap side relative to new, might give that a whirl first)
- Radiator for an 2nd Gen RX-7, we don't have one
- Alternator w/Bracket
- Starter
These I can get new from Summit, but if you see them cheap:
- Scatter Shield for Top Loader
- Long Tube Swap Headers for SBF
I trust your judgement, send me the bill.
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Alt and starter you can get cheap from the zone rebuilt, and forfeit the $10 core charge.
Radiator, I would hold off on. I may get that REAL cheap from a friend. (He owns Anaheim Radiator). He can probably make us one custom.
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01-17-2009, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettezuki
Here's the Excel Fomula for Revs Per Mile I'm using:
=(63360/(((B9/25.4*(D9/100)*2)+F9)*3.141597)) *0.99
B9 = Section Width
D9 = Aspect Ratio
F9 = Rim Diamter
It's basically the same as yours, EXCEPT for the last multiplication. This actually reduces the number of revs per mile and therefore increase the speed for a given RPM. I believe it was the original desginers intention to account for growth in the tire as a function of heat/pressure and rotational inertia.
However, my sheet also inlucdes a big reduction when calculating the speed for a given tire/axle/gear @ RPM x.
=((D18/(B21*B28*H9))*60)*0.97
D18= RPM (shift or redline, or whatever you want to put in, I'm assuming 6k)
B21=Gear ratio
B28=Axle ratio
H9=tire revs per mile
The final multiplication is an additional reduction I forgot about. If I had to guess it's for nonlockup auto trans, but that's just a guess. Thanks for the catch.
I'll take out these constants for future calculations so we're comparing apples to apples.
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Quit bench racing. So your off 1mph or so. The traps will tell the truith.
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01-17-2009, 08:31 PM
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#116
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 739
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Originally Posted by Vettezuki
Don't knwo what all they have there, since I've never been, but:
- Repair Parts for the 174
- Holley 750 CFM Carb with four corner idle set (if on the pretty cheap side relative to new, might give that a whirl first)
- Radiator for an 2nd Gen RX-7, we don't have one
- Alternator w/Bracket
- Starter
These I can get new from Summit, but if you see them cheap:
- Scatter Shield for Top Loader
- Long Tube Swap Headers for SBF
I trust your judgement, send me the bill.
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I'll call you if I stumble upon a good deal. Is someone maufacturing headers for this swap?
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HP numbers are good and all, but they are like asking someone how much they can bench. What difference does it make if I can still kick your ass?
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01-17-2009, 08:56 PM
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#117
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I, Vettezuki
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by big2bird
Quit bench racing. So your off 1mph or so. The traps will tell the truith.
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We don't have a car to race for real yet. And this is (theoretically) for choosing the best possible total combo in the first place.
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01-17-2009, 08:58 PM
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#118
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I, Vettezuki
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Originally Posted by joedls
I'll call you if I stumble upon a good deal. Is someone maufacturing headers for this swap?
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These appear to be the best candidates for our swap.
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01-17-2009, 09:00 PM
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#119
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I, Vettezuki
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by big2bird
Alt and starter you can get cheap from the zone rebuilt, and forfeit the $10 core charge.
Radiator, I would hold off on. I may get that REAL cheap from a friend. (He owns Anaheim Radiator). He can probably make us one custom.
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Roger. I've been using Duralast alts and starters on other vehicles for a while, and they seem pretty well made and reasonably priced. BTW, what years was this motor in production, or what car can I use as the reference when buying parts?
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01-17-2009, 09:09 PM
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#120
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Power's off.
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 673
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Originally Posted by Vettezuki
These appear to be the best candidates for our swap.
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I have been meaning to ask. What is the latest NHRA on sound? Are open headers still okay? (Dating myself)
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