[eric97srad]

I'm gunna go ahead and throw in the Supra... I think they are easily the most recognizable japanese sports cars to date even by non-enthusiasts. Granted, production didn't start until quite a bit after the Z cars, and on the performance level I think they are way over-hyped, but you can't deny the success of that car.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

Cornfed,

I don't think a car that started in the 80s can really achieve the level of "icon" under any circumstance. The Evo is a magnificent car and it's clearly iconic for your generation, but not on the grand scale IMO.

if you wanna take a deeper looking into the evo lineage and go for the subject wording of lancer-to-evo or lancer/evo or just lancer. you will come to find that the lancer started life in 1973 and was competing in rally's it was released in the US in 1977 as the dodge colt. for a couple of years, before they switch that up to another chassis in the dodge/chrystler/mitsu clusterfuk of naming confusion that they like to do.

threw a long, confusing lineage the lancer-to-lancer evo family has been around and a performing sports car. it has history in the same way the skyline has, given the skyline lineage is still slightly older but by only a few year's.

so my claim still stands

[Vettezuki]

Originally Posted by st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*

. . . it has history in the same way the skyline has, given the skyline lineage is still slightly older but by only a few year's. . . .

Uh, 1957 vs. 1973 (being generous) is not exactly "only a few years." And the Skyline was racing against and holding its own against the Europeans early on. In later years it was categorically dominant in some racing series, to the point where rules were enacted to effectively eliminate them from competition.

[Vettezuki]

Maybe it's sorta like in the American section.

Skyline = Corvette
Evo = Mustang

However, while I supported the Mustang in the American section, I'll take the Skyline in the Japanese section as most Iconic.

[BRUTAL64]

You know the more I think about it--The Honda Civic (1974).

[Vettezuki]

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64

You know the more I think about it--The Honda Civic (1974).

That was hella important for sure.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

Uh, 1957 vs. 1973 (being generous) is not exactly "only a few years." And the Skyline was racing against and holding its own against the Europeans early on. In later years it was categorically dominant in some racing series, to the point where rules were enacted to effectively eliminate them from competition.

ya a few year's may have been slightly used out of the norm.

what would your requirements be for a car to be an icon?

brutal did throw in a good contender

*i think the Z's should be taken out or explained a little better to me because they wherent a car so much as a line up within a lineup. kinda like the wu-tang clan way to many of them and rotating to count as a single icon.

*and the supra should be taken out and because it falls a little short on the history. starting at only 1979

*the evo should be changed to lancer

*civic should be thrown up.

*and for the final contestant i believe the RX line of rotory cars from mazda should be thrown into the mix. especially after you statement of racing rules having been created to get the rotory engine kicked out of some motorsports

[Vettezuki]

Originally Posted by st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*

ya a few year's may have been slightly used out of the norm.

what would your requirements be for a car to be an icon?

brutal did throw in a good contender

*i think the Z's should be taken out or explained a little better to me because they wherent a car so much as a line up within a lineup. kinda like the wu-tang clan way to many of them and rotating to count as a single icon.

*and the supra should be taken out and because it falls a little short on the history. starting at only 1979

*the evo should be changed to lancer

*civic should be thrown up.

*and for the final contestant i believe the RX line of rotory cars from mazda should be thrown into the mix. especially after you statement of racing rules having been created to get the rotory engine kicked out of some motorsports

I think your consideration of the Lancer (Evo) is perfectly valid. Just arguing. Good call on the RX series.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Originally Posted by Vettezuki

I think your consideration of the Lancer (Evo) is perfectly valid. Just arguing. Good call on the RX series.

thank you now lets get more people on this thread. i think its a very good debate. more so then the american iconic car thread. being as how most of us know is limited to the vette, pony car, and camaro. with the vette and mustang riding high.

the japanese iconic car is alot more for us to think about.


also make a euro iconic car thread or maybe split it to an english, german, italian, or euro and supercar catagories.


and i got this idea from a top gear episode...made a thread on the most iconic car maker as a whole! :-) *this one should be fun*

[big2bird]

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64

240z

Yep.