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BADDASSC6 06-01-2009 07:17 PM

Should I listen to Sean
 
I was considering a Magna charger 122, but Sean suggested building a 402 screamer. I have been debating it ever since. I pretty much decided that upgrading to a z06 would be out of hte question. My car is almost paid off and I don't want to make payments for an extra year or two for a used Z06.

Pros and cons of each:

402
1) 402 from A&A goes for $4k comes with a New CAM and has forged internals. I can probably get this for $6K installed.
2) I have EPT 205 heads most cars with 402 run AFR 225 heads. I think my heads might limit the power up top.
3) My fast manifold already has nitrous bungs. Forged internals means I can spray a huge shot (200).
4) 480-490 rwhp max without spray.

Maggie
1) 122 Maggie $6K plus new hood $1.5K.
2) 550 rwhp on stock LS2s with exhaust only.
3) No nitrous bottle to refill.
4) How close am I to the LS2 limit:sm_up_there:

94cobra69ss396 06-01-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 23628)
I was considering a Magna charger 122, but Sean suggested building a 402 screamer. I have been debating it ever since. I pretty much decided that upgrading to a z06 would be out of hte question. My car is almost paid off and I don't want to make payments for an extra year or two for a used Z06.

Pros and cons of each:

402
1) 402 from A&A goes for $4k comes with a New CAM and has forged internals. I can probably get this for $6K installed.
2) I have EPT 205 heads most cars with 402 run AFR 225 heads. I think my heads might limit the power up top.
3) My fast manifold already has nitrous bungs. Forged internals means I can spray a huge shot (200).
4) 480-490 rwhp max without spray.

Maggie
1) 122 Maggie $6K plus new hood $1.5K.
2) 550 rwhp on stock LS2s with exhaust only.
3) No nitrous bottle to refill.
4) How close am I to the LS2 limit:sm_up_there:

Are you still planning to run your car on road courses? If so, stay away from the blower. If not, the blower is a great choice. Besides, you can always upgrade the heads later.

SeanPlunk 06-01-2009 07:41 PM

I still think a good N/A build would be best for you. Clearly you're much more into road racing than drag racing and I think a built N/A motor is better for road racing :D

Vettezuki 06-01-2009 08:51 PM

Cough, cough, I think it was my suggestion :leaving:, but since Sean agrees, it must mean one of two things:

a) it's the greatest idea ever
b) the Universe may implode

Leedom 06-01-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 23629)
Are you still planning to run your car on road courses? If so, stay away from the blower. If not, the blower is a great choice. Besides, you can always upgrade the heads later.

What are the draw backs on blowing a road racing motor?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vettezuki
Cough, cough, I think it was my suggestion , but since Sean agrees, it must mean one of two things:

a) it's the greatest idea ever
b) the Universe may implode

It is not looking to good for any of us. :sm_up_there:

SeanPlunk 06-01-2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 23640)
What are the draw backs on blowing a road racing motor?

Generally they're more sensitive to heatsoak and also add more weight to the front of the car. Also, power delivery from a N/A powerplant is usually more linear than from forced induction (which is why Gordon Murray demanded an N/A powerplant for the McLaren F1) which is better for road racing.

94cobra69ss396 06-01-2009 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 23640)
What are the draw backs on blowing a road racing motor?

Sean said it.

Vettezuki 06-01-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 23643)
Sean said it.

Plus real men don't need to force anything. :smack:

Vettezuki 06-02-2009 03:16 AM

Oh, Carlos, just rememberd. The guy who built the H&C LS1 in my Vette, now has a forged 402 Twin Turbo in his C5. As I recall he went with a Scogg & Dickey (mmm, spelling) supplier out of TX . . I think. Apparently the same specs as the A&A, but a bit less. I'm going to see if I can get him to come out on our cruise, but the weekends are family time for him usually.

BRUTAL64 06-02-2009 08:56 AM

:popcorn:


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