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2011GT302 01-06-2012 12:35 AM

E85...
 
Is anyone running E85? What are the pros and cons?
Thanks for any and all answers.

Vettezuki 01-06-2012 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001GT302 (Post 90281)
Is anyone running E85? What are the pros and cons?
Thanks for any and all answers.

st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet runs or at least ran it in his Evo.

You can see his Evo here from about 5:25

Shaolin Crane 01-06-2012 11:15 AM

Its nasty shit, highly corrosive, getting more expensive daily and harder to find.

2011GT302 01-06-2012 02:01 PM

So your saying I would not gain anything by going to E85?

blackax 01-06-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2001GT302 (Post 90321)
So your saying I would not gain anything by going to E85?

Its good if you have a FI car so you can turn the boost up higher because of the higher octane, but because it is so hard to find it means you need a way to reset your tune if you are just gonna run 91.

If you have a Fi car just run meth. It is very simple and easy to use.

Vettezuki 01-06-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blackax (Post 90322)
Its good if you have a FI car so you can turn the boost up higher because of the higher octane, but because it is so hard to find it means you need a way to reset your tune if you are just gonna run 91.

If you have a Fi car just run meth. It is very simple and easy to use.

It's not just the higher octane, it's the cooling effects of alcohol as it evaporates. E85 is a spectacular fuel for FI. While alcohol has some corrosive effects, modern fuel systems are designed to take some alcohol (because any fuel can have up to 10% alcohol), so it isn't such a big deal in modern cars (old ones, different story). The largest issue other than a need for an E85 tune is availability. Distribution just isn't spreading CA.

I like E85 as a concept fine, but like many things it's economically retarded. Ethanol production fails the market test badly and requires major subsidization (you're paying for it from taxes), and because we're often extra dumb in the US we make it from a food crop which then drives up commodity prices around the world. :suicide:

Shaolin Crane 01-06-2012 02:44 PM

Its cheaper to just run your car on alcohol. About $1 a gallon, sounds much better to me.

Vettezuki 01-06-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 90326)
Its cheaper to just run your car on alcohol. About $1 a gallon, sounds much better to me.

Where do you get ethanol at $1/gal?

Shaolin Crane 01-06-2012 03:14 PM

Buy it by the barrel

Vettezuki 01-06-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 90330)
Buy it by the barrel

Where? Do you need a license? Technically you'd need a permit in almost any city to store than much of a flammable. Also, you'd have to take serious precautions with storing E100 as it is massively hydroscopic.


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