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Vettezuki 07-23-2011 11:24 PM

Poker Run Research
 
Shaolin Crane has brilliantly suggested a poker run as a way to raise some scratch for MG. So, what are your suggestions for stops? I'm thinking October at the moment. We need five stops total, including a start and finish. The finish should be a hang. We're thinking $20 buy in, split the pot.

jedhead 07-24-2011 12:51 AM

Ok with me, however if gas prices get out of control, make the run short.

Bob

Redondo Jon 07-24-2011 02:34 AM

Agreed; this is a great idea. I don’t care about the time, distance, or location, I’m all over this.

Vettezuki 07-24-2011 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Redondo Jon (Post 79939)
Agreed; this is a great idea. I don’t care about the time, distance, or location, I’m all over this.

Buy in is $10,000. We'll end in Mexico. Come armed. :judge:

I think I just had an idea for the greatest reality TV show ever. Gotta get mTV on the line.

Kozak 07-24-2011 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 79941)
Buy in is $10,000. We'll end in Mexico. Come armed. :judge:

I think I just had an idea for the greatest reality TV show ever. Gotta get mTV on the line.

gumball 3000?

Vettezuki 07-24-2011 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kozak (Post 79945)
gumball 3000?

More like Gumball 3000 meets Road Warrior.

Kozak 07-24-2011 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 79947)
More like Gumball 3000 meets Road Warrior.

:woot:*begins building supercharged ford falcon*

Shaolin Crane 07-24-2011 12:22 PM

^^^ will help ^^^

However already has started a supercharged fox :huh:

Redondo Jon 07-24-2011 06:35 PM

Ten grand, Mexico…hmm… I guess that’ll learn me to speak in absolutes.:whistle:

Small White Car 07-24-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kozak (Post 79948)
:woot:*begins building supercharged ford falcon*







Little something to inspire....lol

Kozak 07-24-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Small White Car (Post 79964)






Little something to inspire....lol

yea I've seen that too, this guy's my hero. :drool2: Hey Gary, I like a FORD! :smack:

silverscmustang 07-25-2011 02:27 PM

that thing is awesome!

BRUTAL64 07-25-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 79947)
More like Gumball 3000 meets Road Warrior.

Now, that is MY kind of run.:judge:

Shaolin Crane 07-25-2011 11:20 PM

What about making the stops burger joints? Since its not a race we can choose 5 burger places(or any restaurant really) and if someone is hungry they can easily go inside and grab some grub. If they dont fancy it they move on to the next place. Then plan the route between the places chosen. :huh:

Vettezuki 07-26-2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 80023)
What about making the stops burger joints? Since its not a race we can choose 5 burger places(or any restaurant really) and if someone is hungry they can easily go inside and grab some grub. If they dont fancy it they move on to the next place. Then plan the route between the places chosen. :huh:

Good idea. Though I'm not sure how a station would work in an environment like that? Out in the parking lot? It's a bit of a problem of a parking Nazi asks the person to leave.

However, how about some mixed.

1) Kohl's at base of Ortega run. -> Ortega
2) Fudruckers in South County ->
3) 5 Guys in Orange ->
4) Starbuck's on Beach Blvd. ->
5) Nick's Fullerton

I'd be confident about 1, 4, 5 of not being any problem.

Shaolin Crane 07-26-2011 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 80025)
Good idea. Though I'm not sure how a station would work in an environment like that? Out in the parking lot? It's a bit of a problem of a parking Nazi asks the person to leave.

However, how about some mixed.

1) Kohl's at base of Ortega run. -> Ortega
2) Fudruckers in South County ->
3) 5 Guys in Orange ->
4) Starbuck's on Beach Blvd. ->
5) Nick's Fullerton

I'd be confident about 1, 4, 5 of not being any problem.

I suppose stations could be setup at parks that are along the food routes

BRUTAL64 07-26-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 80025)
Good idea. Though I'm not sure how a station would work in an environment like that? Out in the parking lot? It's a bit of a problem of a parking Nazi asks the person to leave.

However, how about some mixed.

1) Kohl's at base of Ortega run. -> Ortega
2) Fudruckers in South County ->
3) 5 Guys in Orange ->
4) Starbuck's on Beach Blvd. ->
5) Nick's Fullerton

I'd be confident about 1, 4, 5 of not being any problem.

At least it is not real far.
On the run, what kind of cash are we talking about. I've never done one.

Vettezuki 07-26-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 (Post 80072)
At least it is not real far.
On the run, what kind of cash are we talking about. I've never done one.

Something like $20 buy in. Winning hand takes half of pot, so figure number of entrants x $10. Your odds of winning are 1/number of entrants.

Shaolin Crane 07-26-2011 03:52 PM

Wouldnt odds of winning still be the odds of winning in poker? Shouldnt really matter how many peopl

Vettezuki 07-26-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 80076)
Wouldnt odds of winning still be the odds of winning in poker? Shouldnt really matter how many peopl

IF you just get the five card hand you're dealt (my understanding of how these work) and IF winner take all, then it is literally luck of the draw, top hand wins. Everyone has an equal (random) chance at the top hand. By definition, that means 1/number of entrants. I suppose if there were several decks, there's a remote chance of tie for top hand.

Shaolin Crane 07-26-2011 04:48 PM

Yes youre right, for whatever reason i had something else tangled up there. If there is a tie for top hand then shuffle and deal right there on the spot.

BRUTAL64 07-26-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 80075)
Something like $20 buy in. Winning hand takes half of pot, so figure number of entrants x $10. Your odds of winning are 1/number of entrants.

I can do that.:judge:

blackax 07-26-2011 07:38 PM

I'm in, and we are gonna need more then one deck

Shaolin Crane 07-26-2011 10:27 PM

We know we will need more than one deck, how many decks is the question

kdracer73 07-27-2011 04:12 PM

The last poker run I went on they had 3 decks per station. All in the same bag. Used casino cards with a distinctive hole in each deck. Car/driver# must be marked on each card. And on entry form marked by official. Car/driver may purchase extra hands also.

RiSSa 07-27-2011 04:22 PM

Down for burger places, I <3 burgers.

Vettezuki 07-27-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kdracer73 (Post 80168)
The last poker run I went on they had 3 decks per station. All in the same bag. Used casino cards with a distinctive hole in each deck. Car/driver# must be marked on each card. And on entry form marked by official. Car/driver may purchase extra hands also.

I was wondering about some of this and that makes sense.

What is done to keep multiple hands of one entrant separate, otherwise, it would be rather easier for one person to assemble a stronger hand against the pool. I mean if one person bought three hands, and the rest of the pool bought one, but he could assemble one hand to play from his three, his odds of winning are obviously higher than 1/number of entrants and intuitively I think it would be higher than his proportional buy in (e.g., 3/number of entrants). In other words if the hands aren't kept separate, you would be buying an advantage over the average buy into the pool. . . I think.

Chuck 07-27-2011 05:32 PM

I say sharpie the backs of cards if someone say bought 3 hands you draw hand 1 then 2 and so on so back of card would look like this:

Vettezuki
Hand 1
Station1

Vettezuki
Hand2
Station1

And so on, also someone would have to write down who got what.

Shaolin Crane 07-27-2011 11:36 PM

Yes, a mass ledger would probably be best, so we can record who was dealt exactly what card to limit cheating. Its not like we're dealing with true casino style hands, no bluffing etc so its no big deal if management knows who gets what.

I'll venture to say we can make one of the stops at my shop, i have so much work right now to do its best to skip out on the cruises for the most part but I could easily accommodate people coming to the shop to pick up their cards.


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