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Vettezuki 09-11-2008 12:08 AM

Test for Echo - Off Road Cruise?
 
I've had a Jeep Wrangler since I was 16, and I've still got it, thought it doesn't get used much these days. But man, do I have many . . . many fond memories of various off road aventures from my wayward youth. Maybe a Motorgen off road (relatively light and easy) would be a lot of fun.

I'm thinking November, Big Bear, and Ralley Car friendly roads. What say you?

94cobra69ss396 09-11-2008 07:54 AM

I'm almost finished doing a solid axle swap on my '95 Explorer but if I have it done by November I'm up for a run. However, I like tougher runs. How about running the Silverwood Lake trail?

SeanPlunk 09-11-2008 08:37 AM

My friend with a VERY tricked out Jeep and his dad (also with a very tricked out Jeep) have been talking about something in November. Perhaps we can combine forces :huh:

Vettezuki 09-11-2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 6106)
I'm almost finished doing a solid axle swap on my '95 Explorer but if I have it done by November I'm up for a run. However, I like tougher runs. How about running the Silverwood Lake trail?

Don't know that one. How tough is it? I'll need to get a trail guide and check some out. When I was young, before my brain had fully formed, I did some fairly hairy off roading, especially for a stock Jeep.

Vettezuki 09-11-2008 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 6108)
My friend with a VERY tricked out Jeep and his dad (also with a very tricked out Jeep) have been talking about something in November. Perhaps we can combine forces :huh:

What are they thinking of doing?

SeanPlunk 09-11-2008 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 6110)
What are they thinking of doing?

We were just planning to go off-roading. We were actually talking about the Big Bear area. Let me hit him up and see where he wants to go. I don't know much about good off-roading trails in the area :huh: All I know for sure is I doubt the Cobra would do very well on the kind of trails he goes on :sm_up_there:

94cobra69ss396 09-11-2008 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 6109)
Don't know that one. How tough is it? I'll need to get a trail guide and check some out. When I was young, before my brain had fully formed, I did some fairly hairy off roading, especially for a stock Jeep.

I did it in my Explorer when it was stock but I'm a very experienced off roader. It's the trail I take my friends on when they are first learning to off road. I taken a stock Wrangler and a stock Discovery through and they both made it.

What size tires are on your Jeep? Does it have a lift? Does it have open axles or limited slips or lockers?

94cobra69ss396 09-11-2008 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 6111)
We were just planning to go off-roading. We were actually talking about the Big Bear area. Let me hit him up and see where he wants to go. I don't know much about good off-roading trails in the area :huh: All I know for sure is I doubt the Cobra would do very well on the kind of trails he goes on :sm_up_there:

My brother belongs to a 4 wheel drive club named Spinnin Fours and he and I go wheelin about once a month. Well at least we did before I started my axle swap! He knows all the trails in Big Bear and I'm sure he would be happy to lead a run if you guys are interested.

Here's his FJ40

http://www.spinninfours.com/phil.html

94cobra69ss396 09-11-2008 10:28 AM

Here are a couple photos of my Explorer on the Silverwood trail.

Silverwood 1



Silverwood 2



I'm still having trouble inserting an image. What I did was copied the url for the photo, then clicked on the Insert Image icon and then pasted the url. When I do the image doesn't display.

SeanPlunk 09-11-2008 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 6113)
My brother belongs to a 4 wheel drive club named Spinnin Fours and he and I go wheelin about once a month. Well at least we did before I started my axle swap! He knows all the trails in Big Bear and I'm sure he would be happy to lead a run if you guys are interested.

Here's his FJ40

http://www.spinninfours.com/phil.html

Oh man, my friend would LOVE to hang with your brother. That is an AWESOME FJ. I'd say definitely ask your brother for suggestions. If he wants to pop in this thread to offer some input, that'd be awesome :hail:

Vettezuki 09-11-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 6114)
Here are a couple photos of my Explorer on the Silverwood trail.


. . . .

I'm still having trouble inserting an image. What I did was copied the url for the photo, then clicked on the Insert Image icon and then pasted the url. When I do the image doesn't display.

In this case it's because the site they're on appears to be preventing hotlinking.

Vettezuki 09-11-2008 11:57 AM

94cobra69ss396's Explorer Photos. (I uploaded them to your account.)




Vettezuki 09-11-2008 11:59 AM

PS If those pics represent the average level on the Silverwood trail, that's no problem. I did things way nastier than that in a bone stock 91 Wrangler. Of course I didn't have normal brain function at that time, I was 16 - 18.

94cobra69ss396 09-11-2008 12:16 PM

There are a couple of tough spots but overall an easy beginner trail. The hill coming up in the picture had four ways up it. I could only make it up two the other two were too tough for my truck at the time.

st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* 09-11-2008 02:48 PM

im guessing this isnt none gravel rally tyres evo friendly off roading?

94cobra69ss396 09-11-2008 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* (Post 6135)
im guessing this isnt none gravel rally tyres evo friendly off roading?

No. Even a rally car wouldn't make it through this trail.

Vettezuki 09-11-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* (Post 6135)
im guessing this isnt none gravel rally tyres evo friendly off roading?

Nope, this is off-roading for men.:nutkick: Though we should do a Rally style cruise too. Any ideas where for that kind of road?

BRUTAL64 09-11-2008 03:20 PM

There is a 4 wheel custom shop next to mine. Maybe I can borrow one of their tricked out rigs?:huh:

94cobra69ss396 09-11-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 6138)
Nope, this is off-roading for men.:nutkick: Though we should do a Rally style cruise too. Any ideas where for that kind of road?

There are a bunch in Big Bear.

st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* 09-11-2008 04:45 PM

RIM OF THE WORLD i know thats a rally up by big bear. :-D!!!! couldnt we use some of those roads?

nordy racer 09-11-2008 04:49 PM

how about hitting the area up on Azusa in the mountians.. i took the X out there and had a blast, even if it's stock and 7500lbs :)

http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...olstuff053.flv

the wife driving..
http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...stuff056-1.flv

94cobra69ss396 09-11-2008 05:17 PM

Azuza Canyon is more of play area and mud pit than a 4 wheel trail but it's a great area for someone in a stock truck who's learning to offroad.

Vettezuki 09-11-2008 08:30 PM

That Silverwood run looks like a winner. The 29th is Thanksgiving weekend, so I think it'd have to be at least a week earlier, or maybe following. :huh: What says you guys? Later (like December 6) might be better as I have a slight hankering for NASA track day with BAADASSC6 in November.

Vettezuki 09-11-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 6147)
Azuza Canyon is more of play area and mud pit

I like mud pit play areas . . . oh, you meant for driving. :sm_up_there:

st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* 09-11-2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 6152)
I like mud pit play areas . . . oh, you meant for driving. :sm_up_there:

can someone say all womans KY jelly kiddie pool wrestling league? :bigthumbsup:

SeanPlunk 09-11-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* (Post 6161)
can someone say all womans KY jelly kiddie pool wrestling league? :bigthumbsup:

You're my boy Blue, you're my boy... :sm_laughing:

94cobra69ss396 09-12-2008 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 6151)
That Silverwood run looks like a winner. The 29th is Thanksgiving weekend, so I think it'd have to be at least a week earlier, or maybe following. :huh: What says you guys? Later (like December 6) might be better as I have a slight hankering for NASA track day with BAADASSC6 in November.

I'd be happy to lead the run. It gives me a goal for getting my truck done. What date do you guys want to do the run?

nordy racer 09-12-2008 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 6147)
Azuza Canyon is more of play area and mud pit than a 4 wheel trail but it's a great area for someone in a stock truck who's learning to offroad.

yea it was a nice big area, didn't have to worry about running into anyone..

plus like you stated, my stock turd will not go off road big time.. i want to do some mods like lifting and bigger tires, but where i work i can just get into the garage now..

94cobra69ss396 09-12-2008 08:42 AM

It also has a variety of terrain such as sand hills, dirt hills, rocks and mud which makes it fun for someone who wants to try their trucks on different terrains to see what they like.

Throttle Crazy 09-13-2008 12:28 PM

Hey guys, I am the newbie with the FJ40. I think that the 2n17x Trail that runs behind Lake Siverwood is a great beginner trail and offers some difficult challenges for those who have a "Larger Set". Of course I was talking about tires. There is by-passes to most of the hard stuff. The down falls to Azusa Canyons are, cost just to get in, heavily patroled by Forest Service, can get really busy and damage is very likley in stock vehicles. Also depending on time of year water can get very deep. I used to live at the bottom of the hill and go up there all the time. Sometimes just sitting out on my porch watching all of the rolled, broken, sunk vehicles come down on tow trucks was just as fun. I am up for putting together a run with my brother if anyone is interested.

94cobra69ss396 09-13-2008 11:42 PM

Sean, Throttle Crazy is my brother with the FJ40 I posted the picture of.

Vettezuki 09-14-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Throttle Crazy (Post 6239)
Hey guys, I am the newbie with the FJ40. I think that the 2n17x Trail that runs behind Lake Siverwood is a great beginner trail and offers some difficult challenges for those who have a "Larger Set". Of course I was talking about tires. There is by-passes to most of the hard stuff. The down falls to Azusa Canyons are, cost just to get in, heavily patroled by Forest Service, can get really busy and damage is very likley in stock vehicles. Also depending on time of year water can get very deep. I used to live at the bottom of the hill and go up there all the time. Sometimes just sitting out on my porch watching all of the rolled, broken, sunk vehicles come down on tow trucks was just as fun. I am up for putting together a run with my brother if anyone is interested.

Welcome aboard.:thumbs_up: Cool, why don't you and your brother put together a Silverado run for one of the weekends in mid November. We'll help promote and support as we can.

CorruptCulture 09-15-2008 12:22 AM

Can I cruise with you guys on these? We have two of them and love to take them out. We've done the Lake Silverwood Trail that 94cobra mentioned. Finally a cruise I can participate in. :thumbs_up:


CorruptCulture 09-15-2008 12:30 AM

Off-Road
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 6110)
What are they thinking of doing?

If you need help or trail guides for planning the Off-road trip, my dad would love to get involved. He bought a bunch of guides when we bought are quads. And he's pretty experienced with the surrounding areas leading my brother (and enkie) in Scouts.

enkeivette 09-15-2008 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CorruptCulture (Post 6276)
If you need help or trail guides for planning the Off-road trip, my dad would love to get involved. He bought a bunch of guides when we bought are quads. And he's pretty experienced with the surrounding areas leading my brother (and enkie) in Scouts.

See if Jeff White would want to go.

SeanPlunk 09-15-2008 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Throttle Crazy (Post 6239)
Hey guys, I am the newbie with the FJ40. I think that the 2n17x Trail that runs behind Lake Siverwood is a great beginner trail and offers some difficult challenges for those who have a "Larger Set". Of course I was talking about tires. There is by-passes to most of the hard stuff. The down falls to Azusa Canyons are, cost just to get in, heavily patroled by Forest Service, can get really busy and damage is very likley in stock vehicles. Also depending on time of year water can get very deep. I used to live at the bottom of the hill and go up there all the time. Sometimes just sitting out on my porch watching all of the rolled, broken, sunk vehicles come down on tow trucks was just as fun. I am up for putting together a run with my brother if anyone is interested.

Welcome to the board, I love your FJ :bigthumbsup: I think the route you suggested sounds good. Now we just need to figure out a date :pot_stir:

94cobra69ss396 09-15-2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CorruptCulture (Post 6276)
If you need help or trail guides for planning the Off-road trip, my dad would love to get involved. He bought a bunch of guides when we bought are quads. And he's pretty experienced with the surrounding areas leading my brother (and enkie) in Scouts.

I use to do this trail once a week with my wife and daughters so I should be good.:thumbs_up:


Quote:

Originally Posted by CorruptCulture (Post 6273)
Can I cruise with you guys on these? We have two of them and love to take them out. We've done the Lake Silverwood Trail that 94cobra mentioned. Finally a cruise I can participate in. :thumbs_up:

If you are an experienced rider I'm sure you can make it. If not both my brother (Throttle Crazy) and I are so we could help if need be. I've seen bikes go up it before.

I'll get with my brother and we'll throw some dates out here to see what everyone has available.

SeanPlunk 09-15-2008 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Throttle Crazy (Post 6239)
Hey guys, I am the newbie with the FJ40. I think that the 2n17x Trail that runs behind Lake Siverwood is a great beginner trail and offers some difficult challenges for those who have a "Larger Set". Of course I was talking about tires. There is by-passes to most of the hard stuff. The down falls to Azusa Canyons are, cost just to get in, heavily patroled by Forest Service, can get really busy and damage is very likley in stock vehicles. Also depending on time of year water can get very deep. I used to live at the bottom of the hill and go up there all the time. Sometimes just sitting out on my porch watching all of the rolled, broken, sunk vehicles come down on tow trucks was just as fun. I am up for putting together a run with my brother if anyone is interested.

If we were planning for sometime in November, would we start having to worry about snow already?

Vettezuki 09-15-2008 11:34 AM

Date wise I think we can help narrow it down.

November 1,2 - Street Legals
November 8,9 - Open
November 15,16 - Formula D (at least Saturday) some of us might be going
November 22,23 - Open
November 29,30 - Open, but the weekend after Thanksgiving

I might suggest November 8 as a starting point. But you guys call it since you're going to handle the details. :thumbs_up:

94cobra69ss396 09-15-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 6298)
If we were planning for sometime in November, would we start having to worry about snow already?

No. I've only run into snow there once and it just made the run more enjoyable.

November 8th sounds good to me and it's good for my brother. Can you add it to the event calendar?:bigthumbsup:


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