Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 (Post 12164)

We need a name for this--- Like Mazbra or something simular?? "Cobza"---you get the idea.

Originally Posted by joedls (Post 12168)

How about RX Snake?

Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 12436)

BTW, I've creaed a special user account for our project cars. Here's RX-Snake

Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 12473)

Sean said he'd give you a big hug.

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 12479)

With a tight budget in mind we could use all paintwithpearl.com stuff.

Candy Orange for the lettering. (Motorgen.com on both sides, in huge letters.)

. . .

Blue Pearl over a white base.

. . .

We could also do a violet or a red pearl, or even a gold pearl over the white. For a very subtle look, you can do white pearl over white, but I imagine the theme of this car will not be subtle.

I was thinking that we could get a large dark blue vinyl cut out of a logo, maybe something like this. And lay it on the hood, over the white base before we clear it. By the way if you guys want to save time and money, we could also do that with the large motorgen logos on the side. Have some large neon orange vinyls made, put them on the white base after it dries for a few hours, then clear over vinyl. That's a great clean way to get a custom look.

. . .

If you guys like this idea, we should have Steve photoshop a nice one.

This guy cleared over an autobots logo on this motorcyle. You can't even tell that it was vinyl.

. . .

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 12557)

It's cool. I vote for mine over that one... but nicely done. Make one that looks like mine and let's make a poll. :D



I think it's funny that RX was supposed to stand for rotary experimental, so we're getting rid of the wrong part of the model name. Not that 7 is any more an indication of the car than RX, I think 7 denotes the 7th attempt?

Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 12530)

I also really like the direction of the RX Snake logo you mocked up. My only concern would be the IP rights to the snake. :huh: Especially considering Ford's penchant for going after enthusiasts for your using their trademarks. It's a touchy area.

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 (Post 12568)

I would not worry about it. If FORD doesn't like it, they will send out a letter wanting money. :sm_up_there:

Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 12567)

I'm voting for Leedom's. Ford is really going after people and I'm afraid if we use the SVT snake they might come after us....

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 12570)

I thought that they were only after people who were selling unlicenced merchandise. We would not be selling anything therefore we wouldn't be violating the copyright. Enkeivette, this is your field can you confirm?

Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 12574)

In the field of IP, if you display a trademarked image, you as the licensee, or sublicensee (having bought a shirt, hat, etc.) will have paid for the right to use licensor's trademark. The fact we aren't selling a product is irrelevant to them. We would be publicly displaying their trademark without having licensed the use of the trademark.

Here's what most likely would happen. We could use it, potentially for a long period of time. Then eventually Ford Legal somehow finds out. Their most likely first course of action would simply be to send a cease and desist order, which means remove the trademark. Even I (and I'm super strict about this stuff) wouldn't expect to be sued for any monetary compensation since as you stated, it is not our intent to profit directly from the sale of merchandise using their trademark. It's just that ultimately, that it isn't what makes it legal or illegal.

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 (Post 12577)

Do you really think FORD is going to raise a stink about you using the Snake on the vehicle? We sell a number of licensed products (GM) here. I have never seen GM go after anyone for their use on a Vehicle.No matter how they used them.:motorsmile:

Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 12579)

I would guess that's entirely a function of how exposed the car becomes. Additionally, since the car is connected to an entity (Motorgen.com) and not just a private individual, it raises the possibility of them raising a stink. BTW, I'm not saying forget it, just raising a flag and discussing risk aversion. I think keeping the basic design and stylizing the snake will substantially reduce the probability of possible trouble. Let's go ahead and one with a couple of variants of these two designs and see which one everyone likes the most on pure aesthetics. Then we can talk about it in concrete terms.

Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 12555)

Here is a very rough concept for the RX-Snake Logo. Let me know what you guys think.

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 (Post 12581)

I like this one. I'd just say make the snake a little bigger. :thumbs_up:

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 12589)

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 12601)

I remember reading somewhere that "x" type of cars were only allowed to be driven on the road for purposes of driving to and from automotive events/ car shows. Which would be pretty much perfect.

By the way, yall need to vote for the last logo. It's a hybrid of both logos, sticking with the theme of the car. :D Plus, it's siiick.

Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 12603)

The future lawyer thinks he is a graphic artist! :laugh:

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 12605)

Ouch, my pride. :o

I know it's not nicely done, and it would need to be redone by someone who knows their way around photshop, not someone who spends an hour in paint with a pencil and eraser in zoom mode.

But, I really like the idea of a cascading graphic. I invision a large logo on the center of the hood, underneath the clear coat. And a cascaded graphic will make better use of the space and therefore can be much larger. Plus it's way cooler. :D

A left to right graphic, like my 2nd or your first especially, would need to be about 6" tall by 48" wide. Whereas a cascaded graphic could be more like 36" tall by 36" wide. I think it would go better with the gigantic motorgen lettering on the side of the car.

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 12608)

By the way Adam, do I have your consent to use your awesome art work in my sig? I'll pay you 10 cents on the dollar for every dollar that it makes. :smack:

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 12605)

Ouch, my pride. :o

I know it's not nicely done, and it would need to be redone by someone who knows their way around photshop, not someone who spends an hour in paint with a pencil and eraser in zoom mode.

But, I really like the idea of a cascading graphic. I invision a large logo on the center of the hood, underneath the clear coat. And a cascaded graphic will make better use of the space and therefore can be much larger. Plus it's way cooler. :D

A left to right graphic, like my 2nd or your first especially, would need to be about 6" tall by 48" wide. Whereas a cascaded graphic could be more like 36" tall by 36" wide. I think it would go better with the gigantic motorgen lettering on the side of the car.

Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 12610)

Make is 50 cents and it is a deal.:sm_laughing:

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 12613)

:beer:

Maybe ditch the - and have the snake head closer and curve over the X. That would help keep it compact, and make the head bigger (that's what she said) to make Brtual happy.

Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 12611)

. . . Once I get some pictures of the profile of the car and such I got some paint ideas that would mirror Motorgen's design style. The first concept that I am thinking of would be easy for you to do.

Originally Posted by joedls (Post 12616)

You must all cease and decist from produving any logos, emblems, badges, decals, etc. using the name, likeness, or any interpretation of "RX-Snake". I have not provided anyone with a license to use this "idea". If you would like to proceeed, I GOTTA GET PAID.

Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 (Post 12615)

Yes, you need to keep Brutal Happy!!!!!

Yes, a bigger head (she said it was too big already) and heavier lines on the snake--other wise it it is nearly perfect. Even in the long layout as is. :thumbs_up:


Adam I wish I had your talent.:drink:


I had a thought (yea I know:sm_up_there:) how about for a "another" emblem
You could use the top half of body and head and put the "RX" --each letter "R" on left side "X" on right side--in each back flap of the Cobra. I hope that made sense.

Originally Posted by joedls (Post 12616)

You must all cease and decist from produving any logos, emblems, badges, decals, etc. using the name, likeness, or any interpretation of "RX-Snake". I have not provided anyone with a license to use this "idea". If you would like to proceeed, I GOTTA GET PAID.

Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 12620)

I did not know that Joe worked for Ford too! :rolling:

Originally Posted by joedls (Post 12168)

How about RX Snake?

Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 12619)

Had to read it like 4 time but I got what you mean.