My Mom wants her SRT4 to go faster for Christmas.
Is there anything I can do sub $100 to make it somewhat faster? The turbo isn't externally regulated is it? (Meaning, can I wrench on it and jack up the boost a couple lbs?)
Replace the resonators with pipe maybe? Cheap cold air intake? |
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Your Mom drives a SRT-4? That's pretty badass.
From what I know from helping a buddy with his SRT-4, a wastegate actuator is a good, cheap upgrade. Those go for around $160. Holds stock boost without tapering down like the stock one does. That with a manual boost controller, you can turn the boost up. I think the max on the stock fuel system is around 17psi. I don't own one, so I might be completely wrong, but that was what I remember from helping him. Another thing that really helped was motor mounts. |
You should be able to go to PepBoyz and get some stickers. They are good for about 5hp and 5TQ each I think. At least that is what some dude told me after he watched Fast and Furious and that movie is like a documentary or something! :jester:
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Yes, and portholes. LOL
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I'd want to get confirmation that this can actually be done though, hopefully blacknboostn will chime in. I know you can do it electronically too but that's out of the price range. Otherwise, intake it is. I've also been thinking about replacing the resonators with straight pipe. Not sure if it would smog though. kdracer73? |
Manual boost controllers are pretty popular on SRT-4s. I don't really know how safe they are, considering the whole part throttle, full boost issue.
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Wastegate Actuator $100
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I have a MBC Ill let go for cheap. I forget what kind it is, but it was on my buddies old Evo8.
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That kind of doesn't make sense to me. If the wastegate doesn't want to hold 14lbs of boost, it's not going to hold 14lbs regardless of the rpm right?
I thought the reason srts dropped in boost at high rpm was because the turbo couldn't keep up with the engine's breathing demands??? (Meaning, above 5K the engine wants to suck more air than the turbo can deliver creating 14lbs of backpressure.) |
Damian, for my car I'd buy it off you, but for a Christmas present it needs to be grease free and wrapped in new plastic. Thanks though.
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From what I understand, it starts opening at 4psi, and the ECU tries to control boost by bleeding pressure away from the wastegate. The problem with a bleed type boost control is that even at maximum boost control solenoid duty cycle (bleeding as much boost pressure away from the wastegate as possible) you are still limited by the maximum that the wastegate spring can accept.
At high RPM, the bleed system cannot keep up with a full spooled turbo pushing pressure into the boost control system, and the pressure ultimately shows up at the wastegate actuator spring as the 4 PSI of pressure needed to open the wastegate. |
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So still a no go if I replaced it? |
After cat wont matter:thumbs_up:
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I'm still leaning towards the manual boost controller, my Mom shifts like a Mom. She's not running this thing through the gears shifting just before the rev limiter. She's more of a short shifting, full throttle at mid rpm weaving in and out of traffic sort of driver. I think she'd like the max boost at mid rpm. she might not ever even feel the extra 2lbs past 5K.
As far as intake, I found a bunch on E-Bay for less than $100, but none that are CARB legal. I don't want to have to swap this shit out every two years. |
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I am sure your mom will be happy with whatever you get her |
hmmm i wonder why i didn't see this thread earlier!!!
look up the spring mod, it works but i'm not sure if it's something you wanna do on ur moms car lol. There are quite a few ghetto mods you can do... your best bet is probably the kinetic wga. it's adjustable and fairly cheap. www.modernperformance.com should have one. don't boost more than 17lbs. I got pulled over cause my exhaust was too loud. Damn neons. Intake would also be a good bet, but you have to deal with one thats carb legal. www.srtforums.com/forums/f365 is southern cali FS forum. Look there. WGA will be best bang for the buck though. just don't go over 17 lbs. it was already stated so i'm going to confirm it. our pcm bleeds boost. it sucks. i spike 15 lbs or so and bleed to about 12 or 13 through the rpms. once i go with an AGP wga or even external waste gate, or take it off pcm controlled boost it'll hold. need a way to tune though or its not worth it. look through the FS threads. good luck. |
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Boostn, I gave my mom all of the options last night and she actually wants the straight pipe. I think she heard "louder" and got excited. Which I really didn't anticipate, but it's prob the cheapest mod.
So yeah, if I replace the resonator with a pipe and keep the rest of the exhaust stock, and same diameter, how loud will it be? As loud as your car? I kind of doubt it because 3" pipes tend to have a real loud, high note, like... my car. Maybe I should listen to your car sometime before Christmas. |
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why dont u just get a 3 foot section of 2.25 piping, have someone mandrel bend the tip to angle down and to the side and expand it enough to slip over the tip of the downpipe? a custom hanger and ur in business for a nasty sounding dump!
finish with the zip tie rolled bumper mod and ur dandy! |
Blackboostn, would you recommend a MBC for the SRT-4? I have very little experience with SRT-4 other than helping a friend with his. From my knowledge of tuning Subies, MBC are not recommended because of part throttle, full boost conditions, causing lean running during open loop/closed loop transition. I know DSM guys use them all the time, but in conjunction with some sort of fuel controller.
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imo they just aren't worth it till you hit the big numbers. |
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Is the resonator in line with a straight section of exhaust? I was planning to replace it with a straight piece of pipe and just clamp it with female sections, in case she ever wants the resonator back on. I won't be able to make it this Sat. Last final is on Mon, I'll be studying 16 hours a day. As soon as I stop procrastinating here actually. :barf: |
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I MIGHT be gettin rid of a borla catback pretty soon tho... Maybe that's an option Yes the resinators are in line with a straight section, it should be pretty easy with the right tools to take that section out lol |
I have a wideband, you should have called me. Could have hooked it up in 10 mins, taken a drive and let you know what was going on.
How much do you want for the wga? And how hard was it to put on? Did you need to pull the turbo off? And could you feel a difference with the extra boost? |
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On the stock fuel system the s2 is just too much of a pain, although it held boost much better it cut fuel under wide open throttle after a while. That's why I took it off If u really want it I'll sell it for 35. Easy to install, remove upper heat shield, remove two bolts and a cotter pin and remove then reverse to reinstall. |
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fuel injectors probably cut out for a second to save the motor from detonation, aka "fuel cut."
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Boostn, how long were you WOT before this happened? I don't see my mom on the gas in 4th gear at 120mph and climbing.
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