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nordy racer 03-16-2013 07:18 AM

whats up from the East Coast...
 
Hey guys.. i havent posted on here in a long time.. been really busy with the job, move and getting t he girlfriend to move from LA to here.. anyway, some updates on the Mustang..
went racing last night (seecond time this season) after installing a relocation kit for my lower control arms to help with my 60ft.. it did drop it from my normal 1.95's down to 1.85's on all 7 runs, but the track was stall way cold. hopefully i can get up there on a Saturday when they VHT the complete track.. All most a 11 but still not.. the car has a custom sub box installed plus a fat a$$ driver (230lbs weight lol) still cant complain to much for having about 1500 bucks into the car :)



BADDASSC6 03-16-2013 07:24 AM

Nice pass. What tire were you running.

nordy racer 03-16-2013 07:40 AM

275 60 15 MT.. thanks





BADDASSC6 03-16-2013 08:09 AM

I fucking love it. Give us the rune down on the mods? What gear do you have in the diff? What mods? I am super interested because I want to start modding my 2013 GT.

94cobra69ss396 03-16-2013 02:08 PM

Along with Carlos's questions, what track were the runs made at?

nordy racer 03-17-2013 04:44 AM

thanks guys.. she's a 2012 GT prim with leather and Auto trans.. the only weight drop i have done is the RTS rims which are 17x4 up front and 15x10's on the back.. Mods are 373 gears, Cold Air Intake, off raod H pipe, GT500 muffs, UPR uppper and lower control arms and an ajustable panhard bar. Ford K springs and a TUNE from my friend Greg from RET in Los Angeles. the car dynoed at 388rwhp and 379tq..

i drive the car a lot so i have a aftermarket radio system (8 speakers and 2 subs) with about 1500 watts and two 12in subs in a custom made box.

i moved to the East Coast this pass July back home to Maryland. Over here we have TONS of tracks, so this was from a local track that is about 25 miles away (Cecil County Raceway)..

my next mods are going to be Long Tube headers and a Converter. this should get the car into the low 11's..

BADDASSC6 03-17-2013 06:50 AM

That is a lot of MPH for 388rwhp. Does the panhardbar do anything for launching the car? I always thought they were great at positively locating the axle side to side. Are the k springs softer?

How are you liking Maryland? I grew up in PG County:crutches: (Hyatsville)

94cobra69ss396 03-17-2013 07:39 AM

Cecil County Raceway is at 320ft. elevation.

nordy racer 03-17-2013 05:11 PM

after dropping that car 2.5 inches with the springs the rear was way out. so i had to get the bar to pull it back in, thats all its used for.. No the K springs are about the same feel as the stock one but you are way lower lol. the LCA relocation kit help bring the arms from going UP to back down like it should be..

the hard shifts hard and i think if i get it a little softer on the shifts i should be able to pick up another 1 or 2 mph..

Shaolin Crane 03-18-2013 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 112372)
That is a lot of MPH for 388rwhp. Does the panhardbar do anything for launching the car? I always thought they were great at positively locating the axle side to side. Are the k springs softer?

How are you liking Maryland? I grew up in PG County:crutches: (Hyatsville)

Panhard bar does absolutely nothing in terms of helping a car launch

BADDASSC6 03-18-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 112385)
Panhard bar does absolutely nothing in terms of helping a car launch

:suicide:

It does nothing but positively locate the axle side to side. The real question which was answered was "why the aftermarket panhard bar?" The question was worded that way not to be rude and also due to the realization that NO ONE knows everything.

94cobra69ss396 03-18-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 112385)
Panhard bar does absolutely nothing in terms of helping a car launch

Yes it does, it helps the car track straight on launch which can improve your 60ft.

nordy racer 03-19-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 112395)
Yes it does, it helps the car track straight on launch which can improve your 60ft.

if i didnt have it installed the driver side wheel would be 3 inches in and the other side 3 inches out lol..

94cobra69ss396 03-19-2013 03:55 PM

I hear that look is the latest rage in Japan.

nordy racer 03-19-2013 04:03 PM

i think so, but not over here at the race track..

Shaolin Crane 03-19-2013 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 112395)
Yes it does, it helps the car track straight on launch which can improve your 60ft.

Nope, does nothing to improve the 60' of a car at all. Tons of stock suspension cars with no panhard bars that pull 1.3x 60'

Shaolin Crane 03-19-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 112394)
:suicide:

It does nothing but positively locate the axle side to side. The real question which was answered was "why the aftermarket panhard bar?" The question was worded that way not to be rude and also due to the realization that NO ONE knows everything.

You asked the question, I answered. I was not rude, nor were you. Your very first question was does it help with the launch.

He already answered why to the aftermarket and I answered your first question. Pretty simple stuff here, lets not turn this into stangnet.

nordy racer 03-26-2013 02:18 PM

got my 11 sec slip..


94cobra69ss396 03-26-2013 06:24 PM

Congrats.

Leedom 03-26-2013 11:46 PM

Nice, for having relatively few mods to be in the 11s is awesome. I have about the same mods comparatively and still am in the 13s.

Vettezuki 03-27-2013 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 112740)
Nice, for having relatively few mods to be in the 11s is awesome. I have about the same mods comparatively and still am in the 13s.

Depending on the car, Fontucky might be good for up to solid 1 second handicap compared to some of the great east coast tracks. Gotta hand it to the GT-R on this one, that goddamn thing was running 11.8 at 118 bone stock no matter where the fuck it was.

nordy racer 03-27-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leedom (Post 112740)
Nice, for having relatively few mods to be in the 11s is awesome. I have about the same mods comparatively and still am in the 13s.

BUT i have the new motor and that thing is a BEAST.. i cant wait to get some real pwer adders on it to make it into the 10's or quicker.

enkeivette 04-04-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 112385)
Panhard bar does absolutely nothing in terms of helping a car launch

Maybe not practically in your experience, but less energy pushing sideways could only result in more energy pushing forwards.

nordy racer 04-04-2013 02:37 PM

just did a weight loss program on the front end of the mustang.. havent been to the track yet.

nordy racer 04-04-2013 02:47 PM




also adjusted the controls a little bit more.

enkeivette 04-04-2013 05:38 PM

You ditched the sway bar?? You only want to drag with that thing Im guessing?

joedls 04-04-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nordy racer (Post 113108)



also adjusted the controls a little bit more.

I gained 2/10 in the 1/8 mile just from that sway bar delete and skinniest on the front.

Where did you have that control arm before? The middle hole?

nordy racer 04-05-2013 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by joedls (Post 113120)
I gained 2/10 in the 1/8 mile just from that sway bar delete and skinniest on the front.

Where did you have that control arm before? The middle hole?

i hope i can get that in the 1/4.. i'm all ready running skinnies on all my other runs.. as for the LCA im going to play with the different locations.. the shop is saying the lowest hole is for mosly stick cars for high RPM lanuches and middle is for Autos.. we will see..

nordy racer 04-05-2013 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 113117)
You ditched the sway bar?? You only want to drag with that thing Im guessing?

i drive with skinnies on the front all the tire so i'm not racing any turns anytime soon lol.

joedls 04-05-2013 08:27 AM

Below is the best explanation I have seen for the proper adjustment of our lower control arms:

Quote:

The lower the rear of the arm drops, the "shorter" the IC (instant center) point is, in comparison to the originating point (rear axle)

The "shorter" the instant center, the harder the suspension applies pressure, which drives the tires to the pavement promoting traction.

The location of the instant center in comparison to the neutral line, determines the "anti-squat" percentage. The higher the IC point is, the higher the body of the car will be upon launch, hence, anti-squat.

If the IC point is under the neutral line, the car will squat. The lower the IC point is, the more the car will squat.

So what does this do? Imagine your car tires being your feet, and the body of the car, being your actual body (ankles to head)

Stand straight up on a scale, squat quickly and what does the weight on the scale read? It drops, right?

Now, squat on a scale, shoot up really quick. What does the weight do, raise? So more pressure is applied on the scale when raising.

Moral of the story: If the rear of the car squats, the suspension is compressing too rapidly to hold enough pressure to maintain traction upon launch.

Keep in mind, if the car raises too much (LCA too low) in the rear....it will fall fast and can/will unload the suspension which causes spinning....

You have to find the fine line.

Here are some pictures I drew up years ago.




BADDASSC6 04-07-2013 06:28 AM

Thanks for sharing that explanation. I found it very helpful.

enkeivette 04-07-2013 09:24 AM

I understood the squatting explanation, and it makes sense that control arms will cause the suspension to compress more slowly, but I dont understand the geometry behind it.

For a drag car do you want longer or shorter control arms? Or is it not that simple?

joedls 04-07-2013 09:40 AM

Not that simple.

nordy racer 04-07-2013 02:13 PM

did another new best time..car went 11.89 at 118mph.. 60ft times are still soft at 1.82..i'm thinking thats going to be it for my 60fts until i get a stall convertor in the car.. photo below is of that best ET and 60ft time..


joedls 04-07-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nordy racer (Post 113194)
did another new best time..car went 11.89 at 118mph.. 60ft times are still soft at 1.82..i'm thinking thats going to be it for my 60fts until i get a stall convertor in the car.. photo below is of that best ET and 60ft time..


Congrats! Did you run your LCA in the bottom hole? Or did you try the middle one, too?

nordy racer 04-07-2013 03:08 PM

they are set in the middle.. i dont think the lowe hole would be right for a auto car.. all the stick cars use the bottom hole because of the clutch dropping launches..

nordy racer 05-01-2013 07:05 PM

next round of upgrades coming soon :)

nordy racer 05-02-2013 06:57 PM

1pc alum driveshaft and safety loop order : Check
Circle D 3c 3500-3700 stall converter order: Check
Boss Intake and throttle body order: Look for a used one right now..


hoping to get about 2 tenths out of the driveshaft and about 4 tenths out of the converter.. that SHOULD get me into 11.2's or so.. then if i can get a intake that should push me to 10's.. we will see :)

Vettezuki 05-02-2013 07:04 PM

You have to cage-up at that track at < 11.5?

nordy racer 05-02-2013 07:05 PM

i have 8 1/4 tracks i can run at within driving distance.. if one kicks me out i'll just drive to the others lol..


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