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-   -   Verdict is in, I should be in 700hp territory. (http://www.motorgen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8606)

Vettezuki 10-04-2009 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 33934)
Ok you wrote a lot, but didn't say much. Here is the condensed version:

You have a gutted, caged, big block chevelle on nitrous and slicks that's not "really built" for drag racing??????

I understand what you are saying about the axles and rear end, but you don't need the super strong billet stuff when you take ALL the weight out of the car. How long have you been racing this car? Any form of racing other than drag racing? Oh wait the 3.73s for for better gas mileage and the removed hood was for better cooling in that LA stop and go traffic.

You will crush Adam and anyone else on motorgen. Want to be fair race him in the Mustang like you did me.

Would you say that your Vette is "really" built for road racing? We may be talking about similar high levels, but not all out, no holds barred purpose built. These are both cars that can legally be (well, sorta) driven on the street.

And the fastest car on Motorgen, though not by a regular user, is Paul Ho's Turbo Civic that runs 9s at over 150. That's a purpose built car.

94cobra69ss396 10-04-2009 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 33943)
Would you say that your Vette is "really" built for road racing? We may be talking about similar high levels, but not all out, no holds barred purpose built. These are both cars that can legally be (well, sorta) driven on the street.

And the fastest car on Motorgen, though not by a regular user, is Paul Ho's Turbo Civic that runs 9s at over 150. That's a purpose built car.

Carlos' Vette has way more suspension work done to it than the Chevelle does.

enkeivette 10-04-2009 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 33921)
I would too. Because he'd go about 5' before his rear end would be in a couple hundred pieces.

:thumbs_up:

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 33934)
You have a gutted, caged, big block chevelle on nitrous and slicks that's not "really built" for drag racing??????

:smack:


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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 33933)
MPH vs. MPH will be the only comparison. . . that's if Adam can get off clean fast shifts.

That's just what I was thinking before I read it.

First of all, calm down guys. I was excited that guys on speedtalk and Vettemod told me that I should be in 700hp territory. That's all.

Second of all, I said several times that I think I would lose to CobraSS for several reasons, but what do I care? I'll race him. What am I going to cry if I run a 12 sec 1/4 mile for the first time in my life with a motor that I built that runs on 91 octane and I lose to a guy with experience who runs 10s on nitrous? Prooob not.

Sure I'll race him. But only if we both fill up with 91 at the same gas station before we head into the strip and only if we both run street tires. But please do use your nitrous, if it was built for nitrous, use the nitrous. In fact you should use it in 1st gear so you understand my traction pain.

That's cute that someone can run 9 seconds in a Civic, but unless it's on 91 octane with street tires I really don't care. Not a fair comparison.

If you guys think I'm closer to 550whp... ok... cool! Should I cry about that? I get a 550whp conservative estimate? That's still over 650hp. Oh please, someone hand me a tissue box.



Finally, Ben, suck my balls. I prob have a shorter shift throw than anyone on this forum. I have a pro 5.0 with a custom 2" stick. I was shifting slow so I didn't lose traction and slide us into a wall. Like I told you, even 2nd to 3rd will break it loose.

enkeivette 10-04-2009 02:46 AM

Let me set out my calendar right now so no one calls me a coward if I can't show.

I have midterms and won't be back in oc till after the 18th. Then I'll be in SD Halloween weekend for a party.

After that I should be free for a while till finals.

Also, must go during the day. Well established that I am poor. Must be sub $40. No $100 private track nights. On that note, I think the most logical thing to do would be to just put Cambria on the dyno during Sean's scheduled cheap dyno day. Takes my shitty tires/ driving out of the equation.

enkeivette 10-04-2009 02:49 AM

I think it's really funny that Sean was teasing me just a few years ago about having only 185hp. And that we all thought his 315hp Camaro was a rocket.

Vettezuki 10-04-2009 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 33946)
Finally, Ben, suck my balls. I prob have a shorter shift throw than anyone on this forum. I have a pro 5.0 with a custom 2" stick. I was shifting slow so I didn't lose traction and slide us into a wall. Like I told you, even 2nd to 3rd will break it loose.

Then it ain't much use is it. :smack: BTW, I have a Lou's short stick on a McLeod Silk Stix so, what-evvaah.

Vettezuki 10-04-2009 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 33948)
Let me set out my calendar right now so no one calls me a coward if I can't show.

I have midterms and won't be back in oc till after the 18th. Then I'll be in SD Halloween weekend for a party.

After that I should be free for a while till finals.

Also, must go during the day. Well established that I am poor. Must be sub $40. No $100 private track nights. On that note, I think the most logical thing to do would be to just put Cambria on the dyno during Sean's scheduled cheap dyno day. Takes my shitty tires/ driving out of the equation.

October 31 (Halloween), daytime, $20.

BADDASSC6 10-04-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 33945)
Carlos' Vette has way more suspension work done to it than the Chevelle does.

Ron, I love your cars and I respect what you do with them especially on the budget you allow yourself. But you stripped down your Chevelle and caged it. I have the full interior, A/C, radio, sound deadening, etc.... I haven't committed my car to road racing like the chevelle is committed to drag racing.

Ben, I don't agree that the vette and the Chevelle are on the same level of tune. My vette has a ton of room for improvement. Areo package, weight reduction, metal bushings, cage, big brakes, etc......

Adam, I think you would lose even if you were driving the chevelle and Ron was driving the chambrio. He treed me by .5 secs in the stang and cut and awesome 60ft (on ET streets). I wasn't able to run him down even though there I had 4 mph on him.

enkeivette 10-04-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BADDASSC6 (Post 33958)
Adam, I think you would lose even if you were driving the chevelle and Ron was driving the chambrio. He treed me by .5 secs in the stang and cut and awesome 60ft (on ET streets). I wasn't able to run him down even though there I had 4 mph on him.

:surrender:

But you had 4mph on him? How much hp are you making?

94cobra69ss396 10-04-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by enkeivette (Post 33946)
Sure I'll race him. But only if we both fill up with 91 at the same gas station before we head into the strip and only if we both run street tires. But please do use your nitrous, if it was built for nitrous, use the nitrous. In fact you should use it in 1st gear so you understand my traction pain.

I have to run 100 in the Chevelle due to the 12.25:1 compression. I know what it's like to drive on street tires. I drive the Chevelle all the time on the street tires and only install the slicks when I take it to the track. On the street tires it will break the tires loose in third until you reach about 110mph. I feel your pain.


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