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Sonic03SVT 03-24-2009 10:16 PM

in for that 331/347 debate.

Ive built more than my share of SBFs by now, and i do generally suggest the 331s. The 347 rod angle isnt the best, but it will work, For how long is a matter of personal opinion. I know plenty of people who swear by them, but i wouldnt run a 347 in something i was going to drive regularly. For a track car/fun toy, its fine. Just dont expect any great amount of longevity from it. Just my 2c.

SeanPlunk 03-24-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic03SVT (Post 18656)
in for that 331/347 debate.

Ive built more than my share of SBFs by now, and i do generally suggest the 331s. The 347 rod angle isnt the best, but it will work, For how long is a matter of personal opinion. I know plenty of people who swear by them, but i wouldnt run a 347 in something i was going to drive regularly. For a track car/fun toy, its fine. Just dont expect any great amount of longevity from it. Just my 2c.

Yeah, Ron drives his Cobra a lot, so the 331 is definitely the better choice for him. Can someone please explain to me how rod angle works? I can visualize it to an extent, but I'm not exactly clear on what a bad rod angle means exactly?

heypal 03-24-2009 10:42 PM

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...ker/index2.php

SeanPlunk 03-24-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by heypal (Post 18658)

Excellent - thank you :hail:

heypal 03-24-2009 11:32 PM

anytime

Vettezuki 03-25-2009 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BRUTAL64 (Post 18630)
. . . Damn, you need to beat a ZR1. That would be sooooo coooool!:bigthumbsup::bigthumbsup:

No Brutal, it wouldn't be "cool" . . . it'd be pretty awesome if a regular Joe, or Ron in this case, pieced together an overall reliable daily driver that could even *think* to run with something like a ZR1. The keys here are, reliable daily driver, vaguely plausible gas milage, something like handling . . . something somehow comparable. It ain't all that mystical to make massive power and go fast . . . especially from a roll. Creating a "package" is where the art and magic is at.

I think we can agree though, what GM has done with the ZR1 at just over $100k for a production car is astounding. I hope it ain't their swan song. :(

BADDASSC6 03-25-2009 09:24 AM

Don't be a pussy:pot_stir:! put some forged internals and spray that bitch with the blower! I'm going to be in Fontana on friday saturday and Sunday if you need some more motivation:bigthumbsup:!

BRUTAL64 03-25-2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic03SVT (Post 18656)
in for that 331/347 debate.

Ive built more than my share of SBFs by now, and i do generally suggest the 331s. The 347 rod angle isnt the best, but it will work, For how long is a matter of personal opinion. I know plenty of people who swear by them, but i wouldnt run a 347 in something i was going to drive regularly. For a track car/fun toy, its fine. Just dont expect any great amount of longevity from it. Just my 2c.

One of guys, here at work, has a 347 that he uses as a daily driver. He's been here 3 years and drives it every day. I haven't built a 347 myself, but don't see a problem with the rod angle/ratio as long as you keep the piston speed within limits. But, thats just me.:drink:

Ben:
It STILL would be cool to out run a ZR1 with a vehicle that is less that $40,000 or so.

Leedom 03-25-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 18669)
I think we can agree though, what GM has done with the ZR1 at just over $100k for a production car is astounding. I hope it ain't their swan song. :(

If I remember correctly the Ford GT was about $135K (plus the the mark-up I know) and it in itself was a pretty awesome car. I would not put it in the overall performance league as the ZR1 but in styling I think it wins hands down, but then again I am a Ford guy. I think the "big 3" can make some VERY impressive performance cars but many still only see what comes from across the pond as worth the cost.

Sorry about the highjacking!

BRUTAL64 03-25-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by heypal (Post 18658)

I finally got to read your link. Just as I said before, The 1.58 ratio is not that much of a problem. The 331 has 1.66 and the 347 is 1.58. That is not that much in difference.
Case in point; In 1988 I built my first 400 with a 5.7 rod --rod ratio around 1.56. In 2006 I pulled it down and the piston skirts were PERFECT. No sign at all of undue loads. I drove that engine hard ( to 7200 rpm ) and it was a daily driver.


I think and know the rod ratio of 1.58 will be no problem. :drink:


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