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Vettezuki 10-22-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlacknBoostn (Post 7724)
wow there must be alot to prepare for... can anyone give me tips on prepping my car for race day? She's still stock... I figure I'll strip everything from inside the car (any loose items) carpet and spare from the back... what about my tires? still on street tires so my regular psi should be fine. anything i should double check before the tech does? I'm going to try and get there as early as possible.

Do you have a spare tire and related eqiupment. If so, remove it if you want, it's probably 500 hundredths. :smack: I've done a lot of research from lots of people of the years, and the consensus (at least for relatively powerful RWD V8s) is that even on street tires take the pressure down to roughly 25psi hot. Also, a very light burnout can be useful, not for heating the tires or getting them sticky, but for knocking off a layer of smulkus. Since you're a FWD, you probably can't do that without a line lock.

94cobra69ss396 10-22-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 7727)
Do you have a spare tire and related eqiupment. If so, remove it if you want, it's probably 500 hundredths. :smack: I've done a lot of research from lots of people of the years, and the consensus (at least for relatively powerful RWD V8s) is that even on street tires take the pressure down to roughly 25psi hot. Also, a very light burnout can be useful, not for heating the tires or getting them sticky, but for knocking off a layer of smulkus. Since you're a FWD, you probably can't do that without a line lock.

When I use to race the Chevelle on street tires (BFG Radial TA's) it did best with 27psi and a little spin to clean the tires. I tried heating them and that just makes them spin more. That was back when it was running mid 13's.

Vettezuki 10-22-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 7729)
When I use to race the Chevelle on street tires (BFG Radial TA's) it did best with 27psi and a little spin to clean the tires. I tried heating them and that just makes them spin more. That was back when it was running mid 13's.

Makes sense.

Oh, and drive AROUND the water box if you aren't going to do any burnouts. You're in a stick. Look online for a tree simulator and explanation of how the tree works. You'll be using a standard tree, NOT a pro tree. It's now big deal, since you probably aren't trying to cut double zero lights yet, but knowing a little can make a big difference in getting a jump against other drivers, which is ultimately where a lot of the art and fun of it is IMO

94cobra69ss396 10-22-2008 03:00 PM

There are two types of Christmas Trees that the NHRA uses, Sportsman and Pro. The Christmas Tree pre-stage lights are connected to an infrared beam about two inches off the ground and about six to eight inches from the starting line. When the edge of your front tire rolls forward and "breaks" this beam the pre-stage lights will illuminate.

A second infrared beam is mounted on the actual starting line...When the edge of your front tire breaks this beam the stage lights illuminate. You can "nudge" forward at this point and "deep stage" which shortens the distance to your tripping the clocks. When the rear of your front tire clears the starting line infared beam, your time starts.

With the Sportsman Tree the three ambers march down in a .5 second sequence with the green illuminating .5 seconds after the third amber light. The goal is to "cut" a perfect .5 second light by anticipating the green. Anything under .5 seconds is a red light.

Your vehicle's reaction time (VRT) could be anything from .2 to .5 seconds and is obviously influenced by "how deep" you stage. In the real world this has to be factored into your strategy. The driver's reaction time (DRT) plus the VRT is your universe in Drag Racing. Races are won or lost on the starting line. It's not as simple as it looks!


SexyLxy 10-22-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 7725)
For me, I clean the car I'm taking (hopefully I can bring both the Chevelle and my Cobra), get my nitrous bottle filled, set my timing (Cobra), check fluid levels, fill up on race fuel, check plugs and gap, check cap and rotor and wires, pack my tires, tools, helmet, chairs, EZ up, and other gear.

For you, just wash and vacumm your car and you should be ready.:smack:

Hehe, you forgot a few things...

Food (although there is a hotdog stand on site (which charges you $$$) and carls jr, jack in the crack, ampm, and some other joints the other direction)
Water
Jacket (5am is ASS cold)
Blanket
Something to keep your hands busy while you wait

I might have even still forgotten a few things

BlacknBoostn 10-22-2008 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 7725)
For me, I clean the car I'm taking (hopefully I can bring both the Chevelle and my Cobra), get my nitrous bottle filled, set my timing (Cobra), check fluid levels, fill up on race fuel, check plugs and gap, check cap and rotor and wires, pack my tires, tools, helmet, chairs, EZ up, and other gear.

For you, just wash and vacumm your car and you should be ready.:smack:

God I can't wait till I'm modded... no spray for me though. big turbo + accessories, good tuning, good clutch and tranny, suspension, engine mounts and some DRs should put me in the low 12s...

then I can check my tire pressure and go LOL

for my first time I'll probably clean the whip, pack up whatever I need to bring along and maybe some higher octane fuel... I run 91 all day maybe I'll find something higher somewhere for the day. It'll be fun! I still don't know how fast she is...

94cobra69ss396 10-22-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SexyLxy (Post 7736)
Hehe, you forgot a few things...

Food (although there is a hotdog stand on site (which charges you $$$) and carls jr, jack in the crack, ampm, and some other joints the other direction)
Water
Jacket (5am is ASS cold)
Blanket
Something to keep your hands busy while you wait

I might have even still forgotten a few things

I get those things together in the morning before I leave otherwise the ice is melted. Things I do that morning are make a good breakfast usually eggs or an omelet and a protein shake, pack the cooler with drinks for the day, get together some snack foods (my wife usually come in the afternoon with my daughters and they bring me lunch), get my SFI race jacket (also a sweatshirt if it's really cold), go to the gas station to get 3 to 4 gallons of 91 to mix with the 5 gallons of VP 110 I added the night before and pick up ice for the cooler. Then I head to the track.

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Originally Posted by BlacknBoostn (Post 7738)
for my first time I'll probably clean the whip, pack up whatever I need to bring along and maybe some higher octane fuel... I run 91 all day maybe I'll find something higher somewhere for the day. It'll be fun! I still don't know how fast she is...

Don't waste your money on race fuel unless you plan on bumping up the timing or adding a little boost and are worried about it detonating. The higher the octane the harder it is to burn the fuel. If your car doesn't detonate on 91 then there is no reason to run anything higher. You may even run slower with the race fuel.

BlacknBoostn 10-22-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 94cobra69ss396 (Post 7746)
Don't waste your money on race fuel unless you plan on bumping up the timing or adding a little boost and are worried about it detonating. The higher the octane the harder it is to burn the fuel. If your car doesn't detonate on 91 then there is no reason to run anything higher. You may even run slower with the race fuel.


good to know!!!

st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* 10-23-2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BlacknBoostn (Post 7748)
good to know!!!

ya dude actually in evo land its been way over proven that just hopping up the boost, or throwing race fuel, or just doing both will make u slower because ur not tuned for it!, and im sure the same holds true for your car and every other car out there!

but ya dude like these guys said just slean out ur entire car, and if you want toss the spare tire and rear/passanger seats if your desprite lol, and just go at it. especialyl with your first time you should just go out there and get a feel for things and have a fun time with friends and people on here man.

BlacknBoostn 10-23-2008 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet* (Post 7753)
ya dude actually in evo land its been way over proven that just hopping up the boost, or throwing race fuel, or just doing both will make u slower because ur not tuned for it!, and im sure the same holds true for your car and every other car out there!

but ya dude like these guys said just slean out ur entire car, and if you want toss the spare tire and rear/passanger seats if your desprite lol, and just go at it. especialyl with your first time you should just go out there and get a feel for things and have a fun time with friends and people on here man.

that's the idea! it's going to be rad


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