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redvetracr 12-22-2008 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11135)
Umm...okaaaay.

Oh guys, I have no idea where you got that flywheel / flexplate thing but that wasn't me. I can very easily tell where you get the rest of your material, and whatever floats your boat, but I never had a problem telling one from the other. I think you mistook that from something someone else had an issue with.


"flywheel/flexplate" and you have no idea huh?? you didn`t tell a guy with a clutch problem to turn his FLEXPLATE around?

redvetracr 12-22-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big2bird (Post 11131)
http://ul451.gsu.edu/lawand/papers/f...nter/#federal2

Cyberstalking is limited to direct threats via e-mail. Message boards are exempt.
No one has threatened anyone here.;)


this is too funny...the electrician quoting the law to a ambulance chasing superhero wannabee butt pirate.....come on batboy you can do better than this.....

big2bird 12-22-2008 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodsknockin (Post 11119)
And so does my hard drive.
You guys have represented VetteMod very well and I'm sure BB and TT are very happy with the results of the recent voting.Seems VetteMod went from a rating of 10 yesterday to around 9 today.I'm sure both BB and TT feel their investment is safe with friends like you guys.Nice Job,you've been banned at CF and DC and it probably won't be long and BB and TT will also feel they can no longer afford your friendship.
Now on to something a little more serious.
The recently passed Megan's law has given us in my line of work some new muscle and we are beginning to learn how to use it.I was alerted to the DD club a couple years ago by CF administrators and have been watching and copying posts at CF,DC,VM and even smaller sites ever since.Below is a short paragraph and a list of what I need before I can act.We only need 1 but 3 and above is usually a slam dunk.

When identifying cyberstalking "in the field" , particularly when considering whether to report it to any kind of legal authority, the following features or combinations of features can be considered to characterize a true stalking situation:
• Malice
• Premeditation
• Repetition
• Distress
• Obsession
• Vendetta
• No Legitimate Purpose
• Personally Directed
• Disregarded Warnings to Stop
• Harassment
• Threats

Durango Boy: Thank you, very nicely done you have made my job much easier.Peace is on the horizon,be patient.

DW...................

big_G 12-22-2008 08:07 PM

I'm not a lawyer...but I played one on a forum....:nutkick:

big2bird 12-22-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big_G (Post 11154)
I'm not a lawyer...but I played one on a forum....:nutkick:

Then you know Megans law is about sex offenders, and child stalking.(Maybe he HAS a point)?:rolling:

redvetracr 12-22-2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big_G (Post 11154)
I'm not a lawyer...but I played one on a forum....:nutkick:


after further review he is not a lawyer...it appears he is worse than a lawyer, they charge by the hour, dw charges by the minute..


Just curious but why is it ok for your "buddy" to sell parts and not deliver them or a refund after two months???? isn`t that called stealing? and why is it ok for him to warn an ebay buyer that he might be getting scammed but it`s not ok for someone like me to warn potential customers that your buddy IS scamming someone? while your researching the law (in between charging by the minute) maybe you can tell us about copyright infringement....I believe he got caught doing that then lied that he had permission when he clearly did not...

redvetracr 12-22-2008 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big2bird (Post 11156)
Then you know Megans law is about sex offenders, and child stalking.(Maybe he HAS a point)?:rolling:


who was it that was typing about screwing a dead body??

68L71 12-22-2008 09:31 PM

Megan's Law provides the public with Internet access to detailed information on registered sex offenders. This expanded access allows the public for the first time to use their personal computers to view information on sex offenders required to register with local law enforcement.

I wonder how many sex offenders are in Ohio????

kwplot34 12-22-2008 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodsknockin (Post 11119)
And so does my hard drive.
You guys have represented VetteMod very well and I'm sure BB and TT are very happy with the results of the recent voting.Seems VetteMod went from a rating of 10 yesterday to around 9 today.I'm sure both BB and TT feel their investment is safe with friends like you guys.Nice Job,you've been banned at CF and DC and it probably won't be long and BB and TT will also feel they can no longer afford your friendship.
Now on to something a little more serious.
The recently passed Megan's law has given us in my line of work some new muscle and we are beginning to learn how to use it.I was alerted to the DD club a couple years ago by CF administrators and have been watching and copying posts at CF,DC,VM and even smaller sites ever since.Below is a short paragraph and a list of what I need before I can act.We only need 1 but 3 and above is usually a slam dunk.

When identifying cyberstalking "in the field" , particularly when considering whether to report it to any kind of legal authority, the following features or combinations of features can be considered to characterize a true stalking situation:
• Malice
• Premeditation
• Repetition
• Distress
• Obsession
• Vendetta
• No Legitimate Purpose
• Personally Directed
• Disregarded Warnings to Stop
• Harassment
• Threats

Durango Boy: Thank you, very nicely done you have made my job much easier.Peace is on the horizon,be patient.

Banned :huh: i have not been banned.

redvetracr 12-22-2008 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwplot34 (Post 11168)
Banned :huh: i have not been banned.


I believe everyone who was banned and WANTS to post there has been allowed back in.....

big2bird 12-22-2008 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11135)
I can very easily tell where you get the rest of your material

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

big2bird 12-22-2008 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwplot34 (Post 11168)
Banned :huh: i have not been banned.

Nope. I know somebody HERE was banned at DC though. :smack:

Maybe all this stalking thing is backwards.;)

redvetracr 12-22-2008 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big2bird (Post 11174)
Nope. I know somebody HERE was banned at DC though. :smack:

Maybe all this stalking thing is backwards.;)


I think his name was.....quiet_vette

Durango_Boy 12-23-2008 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redvetracr (Post 11136)
"flywheel/flexplate" and you have no idea huh?? you didn`t tell a guy with a clutch problem to turn his FLEXPLATE around?


No, I'm very sure that wasn't me. I stay out of clutch threads.

DJ Dep 12-23-2008 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redvetracr (Post 11171)
I believe everyone who was banned and WANTS to post there has been allowed back in.....

Yep...I got back in no problemo. All I had to do was agree to stay away from DB. Of course, that would mean stay away from CF, since he pokes his nose into pretty much EVERY thread in the C3 sections. I was able to get my agreement modified to stay away from threads DB starts. Even when I stay away, DB and his minions run around looking for my posts and trying to get me banned again. We had a neat thread started about guys that used to post at CF and one of my comments caused DB to go off the deep end. It had NOTHING to do with him, but he is so freaking paranoid that he immediately said it was a personal attack.

redvetracr 12-23-2008 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11188)
No, I'm very sure that wasn't me. I stay out of clutch threads.


you lie yet again..it was you.

DJ Dep 12-23-2008 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodsknockin (Post 11119)
And so does my hard drive.
You guys have represented VetteMod very well and I'm sure BB and TT are very happy with the results of the recent voting.Seems VetteMod went from a rating of 10 yesterday to around 9 today.I'm sure both BB and TT feel their investment is safe with friends like you guys.Nice Job,you've been banned at CF and DC and it probably won't be long and BB and TT will also feel they can no longer afford your friendship.
Now on to something a little more serious.
The recently passed Megan's law has given us in my line of work some new muscle and we are beginning to learn how to use it.I was alerted to the DD club a couple years ago by CF administrators and have been watching and copying posts at CF,DC,VM and even smaller sites ever since.Below is a short paragraph and a list of what I need before I can act.We only need 1 but 3 and above is usually a slam dunk.

When identifying cyberstalking "in the field" , particularly when considering whether to report it to any kind of legal authority, the following features or combinations of features can be considered to characterize a true stalking situation:
• Malice
• Premeditation
• Repetition
• Distress
• Obsession
• Vendetta
• No Legitimate Purpose
• Personally Directed
• Disregarded Warnings to Stop
• Harassment
• Threats

Durango Boy: Thank you, very nicely done you have made my job much easier.Peace is on the horizon,be patient.


As a matter of fact, I rarely go to VM. TT is my friend. But I don't "hang out" there like DB hangs out at CF. Don't you find it a bit odd that DB is being shown as "online" at every one of these forums he joins and it's day and night? He truly is a "forum warrior". I wonder what kind of job allows him to screw off all day long?

You really have no idea what Megan's Law is do you. You could have at least looked it up in Wikipedia...

"Megan's Law is an informal name for laws in the United States requiring law enforcement authorities to make information available to the public regarding registered sex offenders. Individual states decide what information will be made available and how it should be disseminated. Commonly included information includes the offender's name, picture, address, incarceration date, and nature of crime. The information is often displayed on free public websites, but can be published in newspapers, distributed in pamphlets, or through various other means."

What you are referring to is Cyberstalking legislation.
That legislation includes:

"False accusations. Many cyberstalkers try to damage the reputation of their victim and turn other people against them. They post false information about them on websites. They may set up their own websites, blogs or user pages for this purpose. They post allegations about the victim to newsgroups, chat rooms or other sites that allow public contributions, such as Wikipedia or Amazon.com.
Attempts to gather information about the victim. Cyberstalkers may approach their victim's friends, family and work colleagues to obtain personal information. They may advertise for information on the Internet, or hire a private detective. They often will monitor the victim's online activities and attempt to trace their IP address in an effort to gather more information about their victims.
Encouraging others to harass the victim. Many cyberstalkers try to involve third parties in the harassment. They may claim the victim has harmed the stalker or his/her family in some way, or may post the victim's name and telephone number in order to encourage others to join the pursuit.
False victimization. The cyberstalker will claim that the victim is harassing him/her. Bocij writes that this phenomenon has been noted in a number of well-known cases.
Attacks on data and equipment. They may try to damage the victim's computer by sending viruses.
Ordering goods and services. They order items or subscribe to magazines in the victim's name. These often involve subscriptions to pornography or ordering sex toys then having them delivered to the victim's workplace.
Arranging to meet. Young people face a particularly high risk of having cyberstalkers try to set up meetings between them."

And NONE of that applies to this thread or the situation with DB. We are describing actual events that happened. Not made up stories. Think about it. Why would we key in on DB out of the thousands of people on CF? The answer is simple. Because his behavior is consistently bad for that forum. We didn't make up his infractions and goofups. He actually DID all of them. Some are just a bad joke. But some are also dangerous if people take his advice. They could be out a good deal of money and sometimes it could result in their personal injury.

Durango_Boy 12-23-2008 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redvetracr (Post 11190)
you lie yet again..it was you.


No seriously, I know you guys all have your inside jokes about the things like the dual alternator and the spider lights and such, but I never told anyone in a clutch thread to 'turn a flexplate' or whatever you think it was.

redvetracr 12-23-2008 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11192)
No seriously, I know you guys all have your inside jokes about the things like the dual alternator and the spider lights and such, but I never told anyone in a clutch thread to 'turn a flexplate' or whatever you think it was.

then I believe your a liar...yes seriously. you post so much BS at so many forums it`s probably hard for you to remember it all.....

Durango_Boy 12-23-2008 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redvetracr (Post 11193)
then I believe your a liar...yes seriously, you post so much BS at so many forums it`s probably hard for you to remember it all.


Prove I'm lying if it's so easy for you to accuse me of that with a link. Besides, I could care less about the rest of it, why would it bother me. I'm just saying I think someone else said that.

DJ Dep 12-23-2008 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11194)
Prove I'm lying if it's so easy for you to accuse me of that with a link.

Which is, of course, impossible. The thread was "sanitized" after so many people jumped on you for that idiotic comment. All part of the "DB protection plan" in force with certain mods. :)

Durango_Boy 12-23-2008 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Dep (Post 11195)
Which is, of course, impossible. The thread was "sanitized" after so many people jumped on you for that idiotic comment. All part of the "DB protection plan" in force with certain mods. :)


It's funny you guys always blame me when a thread gets closed. Didn't it ever occur to you that it was your own fault for the way you approached the situations? You thought I was wrong or mistaken but instead of just adding the correct info to the thread you would start name calling and throwing attacks around. That's usually when you'd get reported, thread closed, and someone ended up banned.

I wonder if some of you had displayed a little tact...been the bigger man and just added the info you thought was correct. It's hard to be taken seriously when you try to correct someone by yelling at them. Other members and mods don't seem to like that method of information sharing. LOL.

redvetracr 12-23-2008 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11194)
Prove I'm lying if it's so easy for you to accuse me of that with a link. Besides, I could care less about the rest of it, why would it bother me. I'm just saying I think someone else said that.


Your funny...you know damn well there is no link...when you cry "attack" (or you have one of your pirates cry "attack" for you) and the CF mods clean up your mistakes (which they have done quite often) by sanitizing threads or making them disappear (like in the flexplate/flywheel thread or the lifter retrofit paper thread where you posted someones copyrighted work product WITHOUT his permission, then LIED about having his permission, or in the ebay car sale where you interfered) there are no more links, and by the way...why is it OK for you to interfere in an ebay auction with your admitted less than "expert opinion" but it`s not ok for me to inform people (with the truth) that you are screwing someone over on a cylinder head sale by posting the guys complaint thread?, (which you had locked and have admitted as being the truth) and before you make (yet another) excuse, making him wait two months is inexcusable. Spin it anyway you like but he paid you and got nothing.....One of your many fans has informed me the flexplate/flywheel thread had to do with someone with a 4spd car having a starter issue where you told him to turn his flexplate around....lets face reality you are a post whore sitting in front of a computer screen all day-every day looking for attention and your having to use another name (quiet_vette) only proves my point, do you see any of us hiding under different names? NO...I will admit I did enjoy reading your sad tale of the Sonic drive in (the OT crowd really ripped you a "new one") and the rebuttal thread from Mrs K where she rips you again, interesting you cried "attack" and had that one locked also .....you are good for business at CF that`s why they have allowed you to post your nonsense, BS and bad advise for the last two plus years but I have noticed many of your threads being moved or locked when none of us have even posted in them... It appears you are good for business at VM also, as of today 770 members many of whom have joined to get away from the nonsense, BS and bad advise posted by... you guessed it...YOU....oops my bad, make that 769 members we all know Roger is a "plant"...

redvetracr 12-23-2008 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11196)

I wonder if some of you had displayed a little tact...been the bigger man and just added the info you thought was correct. It's hard to be taken seriously when you try to correct someone by yelling at them. Other members and mods don't seem to like that method of information sharing. LOL.


difficult to do when after two plus years of spinning nonsense, BS and bad advise at CF you have yet to admit a single mistake.....

"X_X protection plan"...I like that, just curious does that come with a 100,000 mile warranty??

Durango_Boy 12-23-2008 08:40 AM

Someone linked me to the rebuttal thread after it was locked. Goes to show it was in bad taste and someone else didn't appreciate it. I certainly had nothing to do with it or it's locking.

I don't plant people. If someone joins your forum and you think it's me or a friend then that's just you being paranoid.

Durango_Boy 12-23-2008 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redvetracr (Post 11200)
difficult to do when after two plus years of spinning nonsense, BS and bad advise at CF you have yet to admit a single mistake.


Maybe difficult for someone as mean spirited as you. Have you EVER been pleasant with anyone? You're mean to everyone I see you interact with, and real racers from your flaunted past, all seem to think you're a joke. Wonder how that feels.

big2bird 12-23-2008 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11201)

I don't plant people. If someone joins your forum and you think it's me or a friend then that's just you being paranoid.

Then Rodsknockin joining the same day as me is a complete coincidence, correct?:sm_laughing:

Durango_Boy 12-23-2008 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big2bird (Post 11204)
Then Rodsknockin joining the same day as me is a complete coincidence, correct?:sm_laughing:


Not sure...seems a LOT of people joined that day. I have no idea who he is. I was just surprised it wasn't someone else looking to crawl up my ass.

big2bird 12-23-2008 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11206)
I have no idea who he is.

:smack::smack::smack:

Durango_Boy 12-23-2008 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big2bird (Post 11208)
:smack::smack::smack:


Padding your post count with smilies? Careful, Dep's watching. :rolleyes2:

redvetracr 12-23-2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11202)
Maybe difficult for someone as mean spirited as you. Have you EVER been pleasant with anyone? You're mean to everyone I see you interact with, and real racers from your flaunted past, all seem to think you're a joke. Wonder how that feels.


funny I get along with 770 guys at VM...oops make that 769. And like I`m the only one that ever posted something "mean spirited" to you at CF?? get real, or better yet see how you are treated by those who KNOW the answers to questions by admitting a mistake when you are wrong (something you have failed to do in your short two plus years at CF). Do you realize YOU are the reason for VM? Did you see me "interact" last weekend with that new guy at CF from WI (Steve) who is putting a 9" Ford under a car when I went to buy some of his extra parts and paid him (his asking price of) $700 in cash?? Interesting concept you know "pay someone for something and actually get what you have paid for" you might try it some time...Some big time professional Drag racer made a comment recently about his competitors NOT liking him...he explained when people don`t like you because you win it`s a good thing....you know no one I raced with, you know only the guy with the red wannabee Greenwood car, a poser who didn`t have the balls to actually race his car...he didn`t like it that I outed him for lying about racing his car when in reality he was only track touring during lunch which is NOT racing....much like I (and others) outed you for your lies and thievery.

big2bird 12-23-2008 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redvetracr (Post 11212)
funny I get along with 770 guys at VM...oops make that 769.

Your forgetting 279 here.(Give or take a couple):D

68L71 12-23-2008 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11202)
Maybe difficult for someone as mean spirited as you. Have you EVER been pleasant with anyone? You're mean to everyone I see you interact with, and real racers from your flaunted past, all seem to think you're a joke. Wonder how that feels.

Have you ever been upfront with anyone?

I have never seen redvetracr be mean to anyone that didn't have it coming.

DJ Dep 12-23-2008 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11196)
It's funny you guys always blame me when a thread gets closed. Didn't it ever occur to you that it was your own fault for the way you approached the situations? You thought I was wrong or mistaken but instead of just adding the correct info to the thread you would start name calling and throwing attacks around. That's usually when you'd get reported, thread closed, and someone ended up banned.

I wonder if some of you had displayed a little tact...been the bigger man and just added the info you thought was correct. It's hard to be taken seriously when you try to correct someone by yelling at them. Other members and mods don't seem to like that method of information sharing. LOL.


Well I find a lot of coincidence going on when so many threads that you post in ARE closed. I am not going into a thread where you have just posted a bucketload of nonesense and start out with a bunch of excuse me's and pardon me's.

Now let me understand your twisted reasoning... You go into a thread and post a bunch of incorrect information. We are supposed to jump in and post the correct information and just leave your post unchallenged? Sorry, but nobody assigned me as "DB Damage Control". We went into so many of your threads to straighten them out it's not even funny. We got banned because we questioned you posting BS in every dang thread you posted in. But for some strange reason the mods at CF would rather tolerate your misinformation than actually do something about it. Just once I'd like to see a mod stand up and say "Hey DB...if you don't know the answer please don't make one up. It doesn't help anybody". But of course, that will never happen.

BTW...the BIGGER man ADMITS he is wrong in front of everyone. He doesn't run to a mod or have his buddies stand up for him even though he is wrong.
Show me just ONE link where YOU said "oops....I screwed up". And I don't mean that BS where you say "what I really meant".

Durango_Boy 12-23-2008 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Dep (Post 11218)
Now let me understand your twisted reasoning... You go into a thread and post a bunch of incorrect information. We are supposed to jump in and post the correct information and just leave your post unchallenged?


I didn't say you were supposed to do anything and neither did anyone else. You feel the need to correct someone, don't start throwing insults and trash talk around. Why were you banned from CF before I was even a member? More damage control?

BRUTAL64 12-23-2008 11:03 AM

:popcorn:

94cobra69ss396 12-23-2008 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Dep (Post 11191)
What you are referring to is Cyberstalking legislation.
That legislation includes:

"False accusations. Many cyberstalkers try to damage the reputation of their victim and turn other people against them. They post false information about them on websites. They may set up their own websites, blogs or user pages for this purpose. They post allegations about the victim to newsgroups, chat rooms or other sites that allow public contributions, such as Wikipedia or Amazon.com.
Attempts to gather information about the victim. Cyberstalkers may approach their victim's friends, family and work colleagues to obtain personal information. They may advertise for information on the Internet, or hire a private detective. They often will monitor the victim's online activities and attempt to trace their IP address in an effort to gather more information about their victims.
Encouraging others to harass the victim. Many cyberstalkers try to involve third parties in the harassment. They may claim the victim has harmed the stalker or his/her family in some way, or may post the victim's name and telephone number in order to encourage others to join the pursuit.
False victimization. The cyberstalker will claim that the victim is harassing him/her. Bocij writes that this phenomenon has been noted in a number of well-known cases.
Attacks on data and equipment. They may try to damage the victim's computer by sending viruses.
Ordering goods and services. They order items or subscribe to magazines in the victim's name. These often involve subscriptions to pornography or ordering sex toys then having them delivered to the victim's workplace.
Arranging to meet. Young people face a particularly high risk of having cyberstalkers try to set up meetings between them."


I don't know any of you but from what I've seen on this forum this is exactly what you guys have been doing to DB. It has been so bad that the mods had to create the Druken Brawl Cafe just to keep your comments out of regular posts.

geeeezer 12-23-2008 12:13 PM

This beyond rediculous ! This is a case of classic cyber stalking by anyone with any common sense can see . I thought name calling was prohibited ?


geeeezer

big_G 12-23-2008 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeeezer (Post 11243)
This beyond rediculous ! This is a case of classic cyber stalking by anyone with any common sense can see . I thought name calling was prohibited ?


geeeezer

You know the whole story? And you joined this forum when?...Yesterday?
BTW....If the person being "stalked" carries on in retort for days on end with his "stalkers"...is it really stalking?...Me thinks not. Simply dialog between differing opinions.

DJ Dep 12-23-2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durango_Boy (Post 11223)
I didn't say you were supposed to do anything and neither did anyone else. You feel the need to correct someone, don't start throwing insults and trash talk around. Why were you banned from CF before I was even a member? More damage control?

Oh I know you'd prefer we do nothing and let your incorrect and misleading posts just lay there. But that didn't happen. I don't need to throw insults at you. Your posts do a fine job of that :)

I was banned from CF prior to your arrival because I WANTED to be banned. This was back when you were still in grade school. Back in the good ol' days before you drove everyone out with your ridiculous posts. We used to have a rating system. If your rating went to zero, you got banned for a while. I had a perfect 100% rating for quite a while. Then I noticed one of my buddies had a rating of 50%. I asked him why and he said he got caught doing a bypass of the auto-censor. I started kidding around with the mods (back before they were in your pocket they were some cool doods). I openly challenged them to lower my ratings and started using phonetic spelling of bad words to give them a reason to lower my rating. It caught on and everyone in the thread starting doing it. Next thing I knew, my rating went down to 50%. I teased them and said "is that the best you can do?" So they lowered it to 25%. People were laughing so hard they had tears in their eyes. Then a mod who I'd never encountered before stepped in and banned me for 2 weeks. I was back after 1 week. One of the mods went to bat for me and said "I was too valuable an old timer to lose". All I had to do was stop screwing around the the auto-censor....which I did. Obviously that attitude among mods no longer exists. YOU are now too valuable to lose because you generate post counts and that is what CF is all about now. Making money...not dispensing accurate and reliable information. Which is also why many of the old timers that were mine and Redvetracr's friends left. You did a magnificent job of destroying what was a great forum.

I see more amateur lawyers have shown up. We have a whole list of threads proving DB's activities. At least, we have one's that he hasn't had sanitized or removed. So any internet lawyers might as well find another ambulance to chase.


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