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SeanPlunk 05-01-2011 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic03SVT (Post 73809)
so unhappy that Obama is now going to claim credit for this, when all he did was AT BEST continue exactly what Bush had been doing. Right place, right time.


That said, of course im happy the bastard is dead.

True, but just as the man in charge gets blamed when shit goes bad, you also get credit when stuff goes right. That's just the way it is :o

Damian 05-01-2011 11:22 PM

He isn't dead, he is alive and well in a top secret interrogation room.

Vettezuki 05-01-2011 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian (Post 73811)
He isn't dead, he is alive and well in a top secret interrogation room.

It's an interesting possibility but I doubt it for a couple of reasons. One, he said, and I tend to believe he meant it, that he'd never be taken alive by Americans. He was surrounded by guards instructed to kill him if it looked like that was a serious possibility. Secondly, he's apparently bene cut off from any real "shot calling" for a long time so he wouldn't really have known all that much anyway. This is all just pure speculation of course. I'm just curious to see what the reactions will be. FWIW, while I have HUGE criticisms for American foreign policy, targeted assassination of terrorist heads who plotted or otherwise bank rolled/supported attacks is legit and if we had stuck to just that the whole time, we'd probably be a lot better off generally right now. For that matter, we might have had him a long time ago. But whatever, it's done.

Vettezuki 05-01-2011 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanPlunk (Post 73810)
True, but just as the man in charge gets blamed when shit goes bad, you also get credit when stuff goes right. That's just the way it is :o

Ya mean it's politics? No way. :smack:

Shaolin Crane 05-02-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic03SVT (Post 73809)
so unhappy that Obama is now going to claim credit for this, when all he did was AT BEST continue exactly what Bush had been doing. Right place, right time.


That said, of course im happy the bastard is dead.

Listening to him speak made me sick, swearing that it was all by his hand, as if he shot the bastard himself

Vettezuki 05-02-2011 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 73815)
Listening to him speak made me sick, swearing that it was all by his hand, as if he shot the bastard himself

It's just politics. Stand by for some fantastically amusing posturing from all corners.

Shaolin Crane 05-02-2011 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Vettezuki (Post 73813)
It's an interesting possibility but I doubt it for a couple of reasons. One, he said, and I tend to believe he meant it, that he'd never be taken alive by Americans. He was surrounded by guards instructed to kill him if it looked like that was a serious possibility. Secondly, he's apparently bene cut off from any real "shot calling" for a long time so he wouldn't really have known all that much anyway. This is all just pure speculation of course. I'm just curious to see what the reactions will be. FWIW, while I have HUGE criticisms for American foreign policy, targeted assassination of terrorist heads who plotted or otherwise bank rolled/supported attacks is legit and if we had stuck to just that the whole time, we'd probably be a lot better off generally right now. For that matter, we might have had him a long time ago. But whatever, it's done.

Would you leave your home alive if they came to take you? I know I wouldnt

Small White Car 05-02-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 73815)
Listening to him speak made me sick, swearing that it was all by his hand, as if he shot the bastard himself



Like GWB, or any other president would have?

He is the commander in chief, so technically he was the one who pulled the trigger.


What I do find amusing is that while GWB used the threat of 'terrists' to severely retard the growth of America while grossly enlarging his and his cronies personal fortunes, the new administration finds the guy and takes him out. Maybe now we can get on with shit instead of chasing boogie men in caves.

It didn't take ten years to find him and kill him, it took two years, but yeah whatever...

:thumbs_up:

SeanPlunk 05-02-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Crane (Post 73815)
Listening to him speak made me sick, swearing that it was all by his hand, as if he shot the bastard himself

Any President would have said the exact same thing. If you think otherwise, you're being a partisan hack.

Vettezuki 05-02-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Small White Car (Post 73847)
. . .

It didn't take ten years to find him and kill him, it took two years, but yeah whatever...

Are you arguing no effort was made until two years ago and that all prior action was a pretense for presence throughout the ME? Well then, are we coming home this week? Then I'd be impressed.

The more interesting point is that rather contrary to campaign rhetoric, Obama has carried on, and very arguably expanded Bush doctrine or a "freedom is on the march" attitude in places like Libya. Where, incidentally, we are via Nato effectively flying air cover for elements of Al Qaeda who cut their teeth fighting in Iraq. So much for consistency.

BTW, to say I'm indifferent to either party is a bit of an understatement. I'm only making observations on policies and actions regardless of who does them.


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