Blower Alert!
 

See this ad.

It looks like the smaller one (144) but, the bearing plate and snout might be the same???

I don't think the endplate is the same, but I'd ask him to measure the shaft housing. I think that will probably work.

Bummer.

I found this one before, which looks like a 174, but he wants $1,500 for the whole thing (including the extra Chevy intake). I'd seriously consider the turbo for up to about $1,300 at that point. pppssssSSSST.

Ben, have you contacted Holley directly? I was on their website checking to see if it would have info on the 144 case compared to the 174 case and found that they sell the bearing plates for their other blowers. I couldn't find any specifics for the 144/174 question I had but did find that the nose assembly is the same. I believe the only difference between the 144 and 174 case was that the 174 was longer which gave it the larger ci.

I'll call them tomorrow. I just found this blower after 5 today. That's kind of what I was hoping, that the larger displacement was a function of length and the front of the blower was the same. :huh:

Confirmed 144. Let's see what Holley says.

Holley tech line 270 781 9741.:bigthumbsup:

I talked to the Truck 4wd fab boys last night. You can weld cast aluim---BUT it will warp if not done correctly. There is a guy in my shop complex that should be able to do it. BUT!!! he crushed three fingers a day ago. Timing is everything.:(

Booh
 

Holley says the 144 and 174 bearing plate and snout are NOT interchangeable. Unfortunately I was in a hurry so I couldn't ask why, but they said no. :(

I didn't think they were. Did they say whether the shaft housing was interchangeable?

I asked if the bearing plate AND snout were interchangeable. They said no. While that answer is perhaps a tiny bit vague and I didn't have time to pry, my guess is they meant, "neither the bearing plate nor the snout are interchangeable." 174s for SBF are goddamn rare to find used. There's only that one in Sun Valley that "looks" like a 174 that I've been able to find. That's after many many hours.

Can you measure the length of the shaft housing for me? Also the length of the shaft itself?

Will do tonight. When you say shaft, you mean the shaft in the housing that actually turns right?

Correct.

Conflicting Information
 

Well, I also asked Supercharger USA:

Do you know if the bearing plate and snout from a B&M 144 is the same as a 174?

They Said:

Yes, as long as they are both B&M's

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Anyway, Joe I think you said that's Holley (Weiand) unit right? I don't remember seeing any branding on the unit.

How much would it be to buy the B&M and have the teflon redone?

It's a much smaller blower than the one we have. It would probably be auction price plus at least $500 for full rebuild? That's probably over a G, then the call of the Turbo returns. :laugh:

Yup

Did you get a chance to measure for me so I have them when I go to the swapmeet?

Snout = 11-3/4"
Shaft = 12-3/8"

Give or take a tiny bit.

BTW, if you go on Saturday I'm pretty sure I can go with you and I'll just bring the broken bits. There's a few other things I'd like to hunt for too.

I won't be going until Sunday. My son has a performance on Saturday. My father-in-law and two other friends will be going with me, so I have a full vehicle. But I can meet you there if you want.

Can I give you a shopping list and a budget? Whatever you get I'll reimburse you for.

No problem.

You wanna get me that list today sometime. I'll probably be away from the computer all day tomorrow.

Ben;
Per our phone conversation, Welder Tom said he can weld the 174 pieces together. I've seen his work and it is very good.:thumbs_up:

Well if Skeeter (yes, Skeeter) doesn't call me back witha lead on parts in a day or two, let's do that.

Joe,
I need the other little bits from the blower, including the intake, just so I have them all in on place. Right now, part of the snout collar (that mates to the bearing plate) is still in your possession and is part of what could be welded. Or I can have that part turned on a lathe and a new collar made, then weld that maybe. :huh:

Yea, there are a few maybes here. But, I think (yea, how about that) this is well worth giving a try. Hopefully ole Skeeter will come thru though.:D

I'll try to get over to my storage this weekend. I need to get that scatter shield to you anyway.

Ron, I can pick up the solid motor mounts that are intended for that cradle and SBC next week if you're interested.

Sure.

Can't remember what we're looking for but I figured it couldn't hurt to post it.



$600 Shipped, looks like it's new from the description.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MP112...4506.m20.l1116

I did look at an even consider these early on. But
- it's smaller displacement than what we have
- it'd require a custom intake
- it'd require an offset dive for the Dizzy (they do exist)
- figuring out the rest of the front drive tensioner setup etc.

Dare I say this? Crank trigger would do away with the dizzy.

Before we punt, lets have Tom look at the broken stuff.:rolleyes:

POS:D

Ahem. You buyin????:judge:

Ditto.

No, not buying. It just brought it up. Just throwing it out there. Just letting you know.........................:leaving:

Talked to my brother last night. The School of Design at CSLB is getting a laser scanner and it should be up and running in about 3 weeks. At this time, unless someone can come up with used parts (I'm done looking), we're going to try this process before fabbing the one we have back together.

a- piece back together parts into semblance of whole
b- laser scan parts for dimensioning
c- build SolidWorks model from laser dimensioning
d- convert SolidWorks model to CNC using MasterCam
e- mill new pieces from billet

Normally this would be VERY expensive if you were going to a shop that had these resources. The only thing I'll have to pay for is the billet and actual machine time, maybe a couple hundred bucks.