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SeanPlunk
10-14-2009, 10:00 PM
So Subaru and Toyota have partnered up on a RWD Sports Coupe. It's a 2+2 with (so far anyway) a 2.0l boxer engine supplied by Subaru. Word is though that it could get the STi engine at some point, which would be :hail:

Anyway, based on the render, which version do you think is better looking?

The Subaru
http://www.7tune.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/086a_sti_5871.jpg

or

The Toyota
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/10/02-toyota-ft-86-concept-press.jpg
SeanPlunk
10-14-2009, 11:03 PM
I think they are both good looking cars, but I'd take the Subie. If they made one with the STi engine for around 30k, that would be a hell of a car :)
Damian
10-14-2009, 11:39 PM
Honestly, thats a tough one. Im not going to vote until the final product from Subaru comes out.
Vettezuki
10-15-2009, 12:07 AM
Honestly, thats a tough one. Im not going to vote until the final product from Subaru comes out.

:iagree:
Sonic03SVT
10-15-2009, 02:33 AM
Based on those, the Subie, for sure.
Leedom
10-15-2009, 09:37 AM
Like them both but the rendering of the Subie has more character as far as I am concerned. Toyota is to smooth.
SeanPlunk
10-15-2009, 12:30 PM
:iagree:

Since when are you afraid to take a stand?
linkwpc
10-15-2009, 12:35 PM
I like the Subaru one!
BADDASSC6
10-15-2009, 12:41 PM
Toyota FTW!
Vettezuki
10-15-2009, 01:09 PM
Since when are you afraid to take a stand?

I need valid comparative information to employee my spectacular capacity for rational thought. :nutkick: That's a speculative rendering vs. a photograph of a concept car.

But truthfully, even just guessing what they might realistically end up like, I don't think I'd have a strong feeling one way or another; they're just flavors of the same concept. Depending on my mood I might break towards the Subie (boy racer) or Toyota, a bit more "adult" looking.
BADDASSC6
10-15-2009, 01:50 PM
I have a hard time swallowing the idea that Subaru will field a RWD car. I can see the AWD Subie and the 2WD Toyota. That is why I think the Toyota would be better.
SeanPlunk
10-15-2009, 02:00 PM
I have a hard time swallowing the idea that Subaru will field a RWD car. I can see the AWD Subie and the 2WD Toyota. That is why I think the Toyota would be better.

That is definitely possible. I thought I read somewhere though that it would be difficult to fit the AWD system into that chasis?
Vettezuki
10-15-2009, 02:07 PM
I have a hard time swallowing the idea that Subaru will field a RWD car. I can see the AWD Subie and the 2WD Toyota. That is why I think the Toyota would be better.

This is a potential sticking point. The platform does not seem well suited to Subie's AWD but that's their trademark. . . These companies also don't totally trust each other and are a little hesitant to share core technology, especially Subaru with Toyota (Fuji Heavy Industries).

As for me, systematically speaking, I'd probably prefer the lighter RWD Toyota as a car. Stylistically I could probably go either way.
SeanPlunk
10-15-2009, 04:27 PM
This is a potential sticking point. The platform does not seem well suited to Subie's AWD but that's their trademark. . . These companies also don't totally trust each other and are a little hesitant to share core technology, especially Subaru with Toyota (Fuji Heavy Industries).

As for me, systematically speaking, I'd probably prefer the lighter RWD Toyota as a car. Stylistically I could probably go either way.

Yeah, if one is RWD and one is AWD, I'd probably opt for the RWD one depending on what the weight difference was.
BADDASSC6
10-15-2009, 06:46 PM
Yeah, if one is RWD and one is AWD, I'd probably opt for the RWD one depending on what the weight difference was.

Not only the wieght, but the drivetrain losses. ALso does this car make enough power to warrant AWD?
Vettezuki
10-15-2009, 06:49 PM
Not only the wieght, but the drivetrain losses. ALso does this car make enough power to warrant AWD?

Not really in stock form (200-250 :huh:) but if the STi base engine in a year or so it certainly *could*.
BADDASSC6
10-15-2009, 06:54 PM
Wow, I didn't think the 2.0 or the 2.5 made 200hp N/A. The WRX only had 227 originaly.:barf:
Vettezuki
10-15-2009, 06:59 PM
Wow, I didn't think the 2.0 or the 2.5 made 200hp N/A. The WRX only had 227 originaly.:barf:

Going on memory, I *think* that's what the new DI NA Boxer 2.5s will come in around. Have to check, I might be confusing engines. . .
SoCalC55
10-15-2009, 07:01 PM
The Toyota definitely needs a emblem delete mod

Id have to see a concept car, not a drawing from Subaru before i can honostly decide
Damian
10-19-2009, 12:07 AM
Suby version.