Neon took a sh*t again.

[enkeivette]

My buddy was drivng my car and it died, he said that it felt like it was running out of gas. I suspect the fuel pump. For some background, I just rebuilt the cylinder head on this car last month after the timing belt snapped causing all of the valves to smack the pistons. (BTW the belt was within the service interval, car has 79K and belt change is at 105K. A pulley siezed up causing too much friction on the belt.) The car was running great, better than ever and one month later, more trouble! A few months ago the shifter linkage took a sh*t too on this car and the car was stuck in 4th.

I bought this car as a reliable commuter, not a second project car. So far the Vette has proven to be way more reliable than the Neon. I don't think that I'll be buying any more 'fine' Mopar products in the future. Not sure if I still want to buy that Jeep now, although the diesel engine is a Mercedes engine...

[Vettezuki]

What's the deal with the lifetime power train warranty? Is that just for Dodge, or does it extend to other brands? FWIW, my Jeep has been pretty stout with its old AMC based four-banger; just not a lot to go wrong there.

[enkeivette]

I think that was only for new cars sold recently, and for a limited time. So we've found two good examples of Mopars, a Jeep with a Mercedes engine and a Jeep with an AMC engine. :laugh: As long as it's not a Mopar powertrain we're golden. :bigthumbsup:

[SeanPlunk]

I think that was only for new cars sold recently, and for a limited time. So we've found two good examples of Mopars, a Jeep with a Mercedes engine and a Jeep with an AMC engine. :laugh: As long as it's not a Mopar powertrain we're golden. :bigthumbsup:

Actually, as far as I know it's still in effect. The warranty does not cover SRT vehicles or diesels. It does cover the hemi vehicles though. The deal is that you have to take the car in for a free inspection every 5 years to keep the warranty going. It's actually a pretty cool thing.

[enkeivette]

Fuel pump is fine, O2 sensor wiring came undone and wrapped around the axle shaft, caused the wires to strip and ground out intermittently on the axle shaft. The O2 sensor shares the fuel pump fuse.

Lots of electrical tape, some zip ties and problem solved. :judge:

This also explains why my gas mileage wasn't as good as I remember. Without the O2 sensor the car defaults to rich AFR to be safe. Wonder why it didn't throw a code... Might not have had enough time since the cylinder head rebuild I guess.

[Vettezuki]

My brother (Death Cult Aaronmageddon), had a Neon that had what sounds like similar problems at similar mileage. I can't remember ultimately what it turned out to be. He might chime in when he gets a chance. The upshot is he traded it in at that point in its life.

[Death Cult Aaronmageddon]

Yeah my car did that towards the end of its years with me. What my car was doing would feel like it was running out of gas. What it ended up being was the car was slipping it's timing belt and when it would do that it would put it self in limp mode. To the best of my knowledge limp mode cuts fuel to alternating cylinders to prevent a driver from damaging the engine. Now you have allready changed your belt but the problem could be similar if not the same issue. Good luck man.


Oh and MOPAR is by far the best, just so everyone knows.

[Vettezuki]

. . . What my car was doing would feel like it was running out of gas. What it ended up being was the car was slipping it's timing belt and when it would do that it would put it self in limp mode. . . .Now you have allready changed your belt but the problem could be similar if not the same issue.

I'm not familiar with the timing belt on the Neon. Even if it was a new belt, how is it tensioned? If the tension is set with a manual tensioner, but that tensioner wasn't properly torqued down, maybe it came loose and the belt began to slip. Pure guessing here.

[enkeivette]

I'm not familiar with the timing belt on the Neon. Even if it was a new belt, how is it tensioned? If the tension is set with a manual tensioner, but that tensioner wasn't properly torqued down, maybe it came loose and the belt began to slip. Pure guessing here.

No no, I fixed the problem. It had to do with a short, not the timing. See above.

The timing belt is fine, I used thread locker on the idler pulley tensioner, and it took me four tries to get the tension just right, I wanted it perfect. And I got it perfect. :judge:

Oh and MOPAR is by far the best, just so everyone knows.

And I hope that was sarcasm.

[Vettezuki]

And I hope that was sarcasm.

Ruh roh . . . take cover.(**)

[enkeivette]

Old Mopars were cool, pigs, big heavy straight line pigs, but very cool. The 70 Challenger is one of my favorite cars.

And for a while Dodge didn't have a damn thing other than their supercar, which Tony B told me was notorious for overheating. He's owned 5 and said that 4 of them have overheated. If you wanted a V8 RWD Mopar product the best you could get was a Dakota.

They're getting back in the game with their V8 RWD line up, the 300 and the Charger etc. But those cars are still big heavy straight line pigs.

[Death Cult Aaronmageddon]

1) Might I remind you that the Viper has won Lemans on numerous occasions.

2) Every great leap in engine tech that is normally attributed to another company was actually Mopar first. Overhead Valve V8's, Fuel Injection, Big blocks, electronic ignition and the HEMI....

3) In 1964 Plymouth made a care that could be bought from a dealer and with the addition of slicks would run 10's. The Belvedere 426 Max wedge....

Besides the Cuda is coming.

[Vettezuki]

. . . Besides the Cuda is coming.

Que? :huh:

[Death Cult Aaronmageddon]

Thats funny :laugh: I all ways think of the new Challenger as a Cuda cause it is definitely styled after a 1970 Cuda and not a Challenger. Seeing how the Plymouth line is dead it's a Dodge Challenger. So to correct my earlier statement.

Besides the Challenger is coming ;)

[enkeivette]

Death Cult, you're biased and crazy. The Viper is a bad mother f*cker, so is the Challenger, Cuda... whatever etc. My Dodge Neon is a piece of sh*t. I'd trust it about as far as I could throw it. If I had to rely on one of my cars to make it across the country I'd take the Vette first, my dirtbike second, and if I was able to travel along the ocean on one of my jet skiis I'd take either one of them before I took the Neon.

You can't make definitive statements like "MOPAR is by far the best, just so everyone knows." Unless you're prepared to back it up. And you can't. BTW did I mention that my Neon was up in the air the other day? PS pressure switch failure. And two weeks before that for the O2 sensor, and the AC system recently took a sh*t. I'm going to have fun diagnosing that. :confused:

If you want to say something like MOPAR is one of the leading manufacturers of performance American cars, well you might get away with it. But you think that you can justify one company being "the best" by pulling up a few examples of decent accomplishments that the company has made over the last half a century? Give me a break.

You're trying to talk down on Sean's Cobra in the other thread because it's a Ford? :laugh: Granted most of the Ford's from the 80s sucked, and everyone that I've ever known with a Taurus has had a transmission overhaul, but the Cobra is a bad ass car. I'm guessing next you'll try to find something wrong with the Ford GT. Every car has to be looked at individually, I like Chevy, but I'd NEVER buy an HHR. And I love Vipers, but my DODGE neon is a POS.

[Death Cult Aaronmageddon]

I will never make a humerus statement ever again. I will indeed endeavor to make sure that all my statements follow the protocol of proper English usage. I will also take great pains to insure that I follow all rules pertaining to the usage of argumentative statements in the written language. I.e. or ,Z.b. if you prefer German acronyms, avoiding the usage of slippery slope arguments and or broad generalization. Sorry for the inconvenience of my prior statements :laugh:

[enkeivette]

I will never make a humerus statement ever again. I will indeed endeavor to make sure that all my statements follow the protocol of proper English usage. I will also take great pains to insure that I follow all rules pertaining to the usage of argumentative statements in the written language. I.e. or ,Z.b. if you prefer German acronyms, avoiding the usage of slippery slope arguments and or broad generalization. Sorry for the inconvenience of my prior statements :laugh:

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[SeanPlunk]

Awesome - our first fight on the forum. It makes the whole thing so legitimate :D

[Death Cult Aaronmageddon]

Just fun man :D

[Vettezuki]

. . . voiding the usage of slippery slope arguments and or broad generalization.

I specialize in broad generalizations.

[enkeivette]

Awesome - our first fight on the forum. It makes the whole thing so legitimate :D

It wouldn't be a Plunk inspired forum without arguments and good old fashioned sh*t talking. :D