Coil Overs... on a Neon?!

[enkeivette]

Yup. Found a set lying around, and I think I can make them work on my Neon. I'd just have to drill out two of the perches for the struts to fit through them. Does anyone have a big drill press? :D

Why?! Because I can. And if I lower the car I'll get better gas mileage.

Is Adam trying to make the Neon fast? ...No, don't worry. I'll do this after the paint job on the Vette is finished.

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[94cobra69ss396]

What were those springs originally for?

[enkeivette]

Your guess is as good as mine. Some 90s ricer car most likely.

[94cobra69ss396]

Your guess is as good as mine. Some 90s ricer car most likely.

You should check the spring rate before you put them on. They might be too stiff or too soft.

[Vettezuki]

Is this the same Neon you custom designed cylinder deactivation for?

[enkeivette]

You should check the spring rate before you put them on. They might be too stiff or too soft.

Nah.

[enkeivette]

Is this the same Neon you custom designed cylinder deactivation for?

Don't think I won't do it bitch.

I was actually thinking the other day about how I could trick the system to lean out. If I drop the fuel pressure, the computer would eventually compensate for it. So I was thinking, If I found out some info about the resistance of the 02 sensor, I could replace it with (or switch over to while driving once warm) a resistor of a slightly higher or lower value. And once I have my LM1 I'll know what's going on.

Neons are notorious for being rich. They're in the 12:1 range at WOT I've heard. I want to lean this bitch out, as much as I can without getting it too hot. I see 35 mpg in my future.

[BlacknBoostn]

lol what neon are these going on?? i have full body coilovers on the way for my SRT4

adjustable height, dampening, and camber... juicy sweet

[SeanPlunk]

lol what neon are these going on?? i have full body coilovers on the way for my SRT4

adjustable height, dampening, and camber... juicy sweet

When are those supposed to arrive? Do you think you'll have them on by the next track day in December?

[enkeivette]

lol what neon are these going on?? i have full body coilovers on the way for my SRT4

adjustable height, dampening, and camber... juicy sweet

1st gen coupe.

http://i34.tinypic.com/28bgtgy.jpg

[BlacknBoostn]

When are those supposed to arrive? Do you think you'll have them on by the next track day in December?

They're supposed to be arriving tomorrow!!! Friday the 21st. They will be on by dec but I don't think I'm actually going to race...

:suicide:

My transmission is getting worse, need to replace the TOB fork and components with that, check the 3/4 gear syncros, and make sure that i'm not going to cause any additional damage to my car. I would love to make it out, its just not a responsible decision... It's still ok at this point, but if it gets worse I'm going to be out of cash real quick. If everything gets worked out in time I may still make it out but we'll see..

:( can't break my car. :bang:

[SeanPlunk]

They're supposed to be arriving tomorrow!!! Friday the 21st. They will be on by dec but I don't think I'm actually going to race...

:suicide:

My transmission is getting worse, need to replace the TOB fork and components with that, check the 3/4 gear syncros, and make sure that i'm not going to cause any additional damage to my car. I would love to make it out, its just not a responsible decision... It's still ok at this point, but if it gets worse I'm going to be out of cash real quick. If everything gets worked out in time I may still make it out but we'll see..

:( can't break my car. :bang:


Damn man, that sucks. Are SRT's known for eating transmissions? Is your clutch good? You're right though it's definitely not worth making your daily driver inoperable for a couple runs at the track.

[enkeivette]

They're supposed to be arriving tomorrow!!! Friday the 21st. They will be on by dec but I don't think I'm actually going to race...

:suicide:

My transmission is getting worse, need to replace the TOB fork and components with that, check the 3/4 gear syncros, and make sure that i'm not going to cause any additional damage to my car. I would love to make it out, its just not a responsible decision... It's still ok at this point, but if it gets worse I'm going to be out of cash real quick. If everything gets worked out in time I may still make it out but we'll see..

:( can't break my car. :bang:

What's wrong with your trans? What does it do?

[BlacknBoostn]

Damn man, that sucks. Are SRT's known for eating transmissions? Is your clutch good? You're right though it's definitely not worth making your daily driver inoperable for a couple runs at the track.

Ya they are.. most common (meaning almost every SRT owner i talk to has had this problem) problems is the premature wearing of the TOB fork and 3/4 gear syncros going bad. Symptoms include:

Clutch not disengaging completely (tob fork wear) which leads to hard shifting, difficulty getting into reverse and first gear, slower shifts (i blame my slow times at the track on this), vibrations at idle in 1st WITH clutch depressed fully and lots of potentional grinding of the gears.

THIS is the problem that usually leads to 3/4 gear syncros going bad, but i've yet to really deduce the origination of that by itself.

Symptoms include getting locked out of 4th to 3rd gear shifts (pops out in third on a DS, revmatching more aggressively can make shifting bearable but stillan issue that needs to be addressed before much else happens) also grinding in shifts to 3rd gear (usually from 4th). i've only been popped out of 3rd to 4th gear shifts once so far, it's mostly the downshift. I imagine the stress under the added load of higher rpms is the cause for 3rd to pop out more and not 4th.

Really it's a PITA but the TOB Fork and accessories can be had for about 200 new and will fix the hard shifting and clutch issues.

3/4th syncros will be more and harder.

Sean, I'm considering buying a used transmission and starting a rebuild myself with special consideration given to the problem areas. Know anyone who would be willing to help me take it apart and put it together when I'm ready? don't know enough about them but aching to learn!

[BlacknBoostn]

What's wrong with your trans? What does it do?

All the regular things listed above haha. Regular SRT shit, needs to be replaced strong and better, I know the problems, but need to find the parts and time and money ya know?

[SeanPlunk]

Ya they are.. most common (meaning almost every SRT owner i talk to has had this problem) problems is the premature wearing of the TOB fork and 3/4 gear syncros going bad. Symptoms include:

Clutch not disengaging completely (tob fork wear) which leads to hard shifting, difficulty getting into reverse and first gear, slower shifts (i blame my slow times at the track on this), vibrations at idle in 1st WITH clutch depressed fully and lots of potentional grinding of the gears.

THIS is the problem that usually leads to 3/4 gear syncros going bad, but i've yet to really deduce the origination of that by itself.

Symptoms include getting locked out of 4th to 3rd gear shifts (pops out in third on a DS, revmatching more aggressively can make shifting bearable but stillan issue that needs to be addressed before much else happens) also grinding in shifts to 3rd gear (usually from 4th). i've only been popped out of 3rd to 4th gear shifts once so far, it's mostly the downshift. I imagine the stress under the added load of higher rpms is the cause for 3rd to pop out more and not 4th.

Really it's a PITA but the TOB Fork and accessories can be had for about 200 new and will fix the hard shifting and clutch issues.

3/4th syncros will be more and harder.

Sean, I'm considering buying a used transmission and starting a rebuild myself with special consideration given to the problem areas. Know anyone who would be willing to help me take it apart and put it together when I'm ready? don't know enough about them but aching to learn!


Yeah, my friend Mike was a MOPAR mechanic for years and can rebuild transmissions. Let me know when you're ready and he can definitely do it.

[Vettezuki]

. . . Know anyone who would be willing to help me take it apart and put it together when I'm ready? don't know enough about them but aching to learn!

Who's the OEM for the trans? Usually driveline stuff is the domain of specialists. It requires specific measuring tools and a strong sense for precision work.

[BlacknBoostn]

Who's the OEM for the trans? Usually driveline stuff is the domain of specialists. It requires specific measuring tools and a strong sense for precision work.


the maker? Mopar I think. I know too little about transmissions. it's a t-850 though lol...

[BlacknBoostn]

Yeah, my friend Mike was a MOPAR mechanic for years and can rebuild transmissions. Let me know when you're ready and he can definitely do it.

wow ya i'd love to talk to him! any idea how he would prefer to be compensated? need to know how much this would cost..

[Vettezuki]

wow ya i'd love to talk to him! any idea how he would prefer to be compensated? need to know how much this would cost..

Mike's great . . . just make sure to leave your girlfriend at home. :leaving:

[BlacknBoostn]

Mike's great . . . just make sure to leave your girlfriend at home. :leaving:

lol... should i not trust him?

[SeanPlunk]

lol... should i not trust him?

LOL, he has a girlfriend at the present time so I think you're okay. Mike actually specialized in rebuilding transmissions I think. I can't remember if he did auto specifically or both. I'm pretty sure he does both. I'll ask him and get back to you.

[BlacknBoostn]

LOL, he has a girlfriend at the present time so I think you're okay. Mike actually specialized in rebuilding transmissions I think. I can't remember if he did auto specifically or both. I'm pretty sure he does both. I'll ask him and get back to you.

lol I trust her so I think i'm good... She's not goin anywhere :bigthumbsup: She's helping with my coilover install!!!

[enkeivette]

lol I trust her so I think i'm good...

Yeah but... isn't she of the female variety? :leaving:

[BlacknBoostn]

Yeah but... isn't she of the female variety? :leaving:

doesn't mean they're ALL bad haha

[enkeivette]

doesn't mean they're ALL bad haha

Yeah... I think that deserves the Lewis Black face.

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[BlacknBoostn]

you ever get these done???

[thisgirlkera]

Mike's great . . . just make sure to leave your girlfriend at home. :leaving:


i don't want to stay at home :(

[BlacknBoostn]

i don't want to stay at home :(

You wouldn't have too IMO :)

[BlacknBoostn]

lol I trust her so I think i'm good... She's not goin anywhere :bigthumbsup: She's helping with my coilover install!!!

See?

[Leedom]

Mike is a great guy. He helped me with my heater core on the truck and that is no small chore. about 8 hours when all was said and done. He has given me a hand/advise on may projects. I paid him $250 (he would have done it for less, but he scratches my back and i scratch his) for the heater core and if I had had it done at the dealer it would haev run me at least $800 to $1000. I trust Mike with my Mustang, my F-150, and my girlfiend. :bigthumbsup:

[enkeivette]

Mike is a great guy. He helped me with my heater core on the truck and that is no small chore. about 8 hours when all was said and done. He has given me a hand/advise on may projects. I paid him $250 (he would have done it for less, but he scratches my back and i scratch his) for the heater core and if I had had it done at the dealer it would haev run me at least $800 to $1000. I trust Mike with my Mustang, my F-150, and my girlfiend. :bigthumbsup:

I trust Mike, I just don't trust women. Yes, that was a sexist remark, yes I meant it, no I'm not gay, but sometimes I wish I was.

[BlacknBoostn]

I trust Mike, I just don't trust women. Yes, that was a sexist remark, yes I meant it, no I'm not gay, but sometimes I wish I was.

Quoted for proof!!! AH HAH!!!:rolling:

[enkeivette]

Quoted for proof!!! AH HAH!!!:rolling:

I can trust most dudes, and more importantly dudes are rational logical beings. Chicks don't even know what they're thinking half the time, how the hell are we to?

If I were gay, that would solve so many psychological problems.

[BlacknBoostn]

I can trust most dudes, and more importantly dudes are rational logical beings. Chicks don't even know what they're thinking half the time, how the hell are we to?

If I were gay, that would solve so many psychological problems.

Oh Yeah. Agreed with rare exception. I can trust few guys. By few I mean less than five. No offense intended to any of you gentlemen here naturally.. I just don't know very many guys that I can say are close friends whom i'd trust.

[enkeivette]

Oh Yeah. Agreed with rare exception. I can trust few guys. By few I mean less than five. No offense intended to any of you gentlemen here naturally.. I just don't know very many guys that I can say are close friends whom i'd trust.

Yeah for sure. But in terms of close friends, I trust about everyone of my guy friends over my friend girls. And I do actually have a lot of friend girls, so it's not just a numbers thing.

Damn I'm sexist. :judge:

[BlacknBoostn]

Yeah for sure. But in terms of close friends, I trust about everyone of my guy friends over my friend girls. And I do actually have a lot of friend girls, so it's not just a numbers thing.

Damn I'm sexist. :judge:

Lol ya.. A lot of my old guy friends were kinda douchebags so I guess that speaks for itself then huh

[Vettezuki]

I can trust most dudes, and more importantly dudes are rational logical beings. Chicks don't even know what they're thinking half the time, how the hell are we to?

If I were gay, that would solve so many psychological problems.

Hell I thought you were gay . . . As for women, they really aren't so difficult, unless you insist on relating to them as guys. That dog don't hunt. Pay attention to what they say and how they act and you'll get it, unless you've just run through a bad lot that are disturbed. Even in HS I had plenty of friend girls as you say and they were great. Totally different then my guy friends, but great.

[BlacknBoostn]

Hell I thought you were gay . . . As for women, they really aren't so difficult, unless you insist on relating to them as guys. That dog don't hunt. Pay attention to what they say and how they act and you'll get it, unless you've just run through a bad lot that are disturbed. Even in HS I had plenty of friend girls as you say and they were great. Totally different then my guy friends, but great.

AMEN TO THAT BEN! I have a great girl, she is absolutely NOT the type of girl that you are referring to Adam... Just not the way it is...

[BRUTAL64]

I trust Mike, I just don't trust women. Yes, that was a sexist remark, yes I meant it, no I'm not gay, but sometimes I wish I was.


I don't trust women either. :drink:

[SeanPlunk]

AMEN TO THAT BEN! I have a great girl, she is absolutely NOT the type of girl that you are referring to Adam... Just not the way it is...

I agree, my wife is a keeper :bigthumbsup:

[BlacknBoostn]

:drink:I agree, my wife is a keeper :bigthumbsup:

I'll drink to that!

[enkeivette]

That's what they all say... at first.

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[SeanPlunk]

That's what they all say... at first.

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It's been 8 years, she's a hell of an actress if that's the case :smack:

[BlacknBoostn]

It's been 8 years, she's a hell of an actress if that's the case :smack:

Haha truth be told!

[enkeivette]

Sean, you're too damn smart to have married someone that wasn't right for you.

Boostn, you bought a Dodge, so I don't know about you. :rolling: But Kera does seem cool. :D

God... chiil out guys... :rolleyes2:

I never speak in absolutes and mean it, wait... :sm_laughing: Obviously there are exceptions to the rule. I don't really believe that all women are evil, and I'm not prejudiced. But I am cautious, and very pessimistic and untrusting. And most of my relationships/ encounters with women have ended poorly. Women have proven to be less reliable and trustworthy than my Neon.

Sean, 8 years... I wouldn't worry too much. :thumbs_up:

But the rest of you, try to remove yourself from your bubble for a moment. From the outside I can tell you that everyone seems to be fully convinced that "this relationship is different" or "she is the one, this is different" or "I REALLY love this one." You know… you thought you were in love last time… but you had no idea.

But remember two relationships ago? When you thought it was love? But last time you realized that two times ago wasn't love, but last time was! But now, last time wasn't! But this is for sure! For sure! Your current relationship will always seem the most important, the most relevant, that's not reality (necessarily). It's just the way that we work. Our memory is full of gaps, unfortunately for us our highly influential brains decide to fill in these gaps (whether we realize it or not, and we don't). They do this to complete the picture, to make our world complete and understandable, the problem here is that we enable ourselves to change or diminish past memories, experiences, and emotions. This isn't coming out of my ass by the way, I did take a few things away from Grad school.

Furthermore, your current partner may in fact be perfect for you! All that you've ever hoped for, but people change. Sometimes drastically, sometimes fast. And you'll likely never see it coming. But you will be left alone, hurt and confused. Clinging to memories of the past, memories of a person that has changed so much they don't really 'exist' anymore.

So what I'm trying to say is, look at life rationally. Look at your relationships rationally, and be honest with yourself. This could be it, but it might not be. You're no exception, you're not different, you're susceptible to all of the horrible chance and all of the deception that everyone else is. And if you're gaga over someone that really isn't good for you, just because you can't see past the passion and imposition of your current relationship, you could be walking right past someone that is even better for you. Or worse condemning yourself to a life of mediocrity and/ or loneliness... whether you're single or not.

[BlacknBoostn]

Too much to quote so a quick reply will have to do.. I see where you're coming from, believe me we've all been through that at one time or another.. I've always been more trusting than others so to speak. Do me wrong though and we'll have a problem. To distrust someone who has never shown a need to be distrusted is unjust IMO. I won't grant the rest of the post a response instead I'll soak it up in silence.

You're all right in my book although we may not agree on certain things.

Oh, and I may have bought a Dodge but so did you! The SRT4 seems to be very reliable to me, little things coming up here on SRT4s in general (not mine yet at 76k on speedo) and there but nothing serious. I'm actually very very pleased with the manufacturing of it. Don't worry... my next car has a 75% chance of being Japanese...

Evo 8-9 RS
Nissan 240sx or 180sx
Integra
03-04 Mustang GT

I just wish I had a garage...

[enkeivette]

Don't worry... my next car has a 75% chance of being Japanese...

Me too. :D

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/43/l_d517927fa3da46b7b860c8bcdd109cf2.jpg

[enkeivette]

By the way! For the record! None of this has anything to do with your girlfriend or Sean's wife, or anyone on the board. If I could find a girl that would come with me to car shows and take an interest in this stuff I would be sooo ecstatic. And they both seem great and awesome to me, no conditions.

All of my negative opinions are just speaking in generalities and have nothing to do with anyone specifically on this board.

:thumbs_up::drink:

[BRUTAL64]

[B]All of my negative opinions are just speaking in generalities and have nothing to do with anyone specifically on this board.

:thumbs_up::drink:

That's the way I took it.:drink:

[SeanPlunk]

By the way! For the record! None of this has anything to do with your girlfriend or Sean's wife, or anyone on the board. If I could find a girl that would come with me to car shows and take an interest in this stuff I would be sooo ecstatic. And they both seem great and awesome to me, no conditions.

All of my negative opinions are just speaking in generalities and have nothing to do with anyone specifically on this board.

:thumbs_up::drink:

I'll vouch that Kera is a awesome, so Boostin did well for himself :bigthumbsup: He's going to hate it when she has a faster car than he does though :nutkick:

[BlacknBoostn]

I'll vouch that Kera is a awesome, so Boostin did well for himself :bigthumbsup: He's going to hate it when she has a faster car than he does though :nutkick:

Ugh you're right about that... :tantrum: I'll especially have a hard time when she gets an Evo..

I sure am lucky though :sm_laughing:

[BlacknBoostn]

Me too. :D

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/43/l_d517927fa3da46b7b860c8bcdd109cf2.jpg

Ooooo so tempting. I love those cars.. Even though I have to give the respect for overall performance to the Evo, I love the STi. That lovely sounding motor and burly looking exterior is just wonderful. Check out the video I posted about Ken Block... Forget where I posted it...

http://www.motorgen.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9104#post9104

[thisgirlkera]

I'll vouch that Kera is a awesome, so Boostin did well for himself :bigthumbsup: He's going to hate it when she has a faster car than he does though :nutkick:


hahahaha!!! oh dear gezus. I hope we catch Tyler throwing a fit on film after i've ran a faster lap time :].

soo i'm thinking i may wait it out and sell the stang next year so i can just upgrade to an evo :drink: ha. my poor boyfriend...

[BlacknBoostn]

hahahaha!!! oh dear gezus. I hope we catch Tyler throwing a fit on film after i've ran a faster lap time :].

soo i'm thinking i may wait it out and sell the stang next year so i can just upgrade to an evo :drink: ha. my poor boyfriend...

I'll be sure to be on my best behavior just so that you can't have 100% satisfaction about kicking my ass... My car is still faster lol.

hmm just noticed that you said lap time... when we going to start auto crossin babe? Maybe hit the Streets of Willow at Willow Springs?

[enkeivette]

I'll be sure to be on my best behavior just so that you can't have 100% satisfaction about kicking my ass... My car is still faster lol.

hmm just noticed that you said lap time... when we going to start auto crossin babe? Maybe hit the Streets of Willow at Willow Springs?

She's going to buy an Evo and you're challenging her to an autocross race? :leaving: :sm_laughing: Start saving your pennies for a bigger turbo! Cuz you'll need to make up on the straight aways.

[thisgirlkera]

I'll be sure to be on my best behavior just so that you can't have 100% satisfaction about kicking my ass... My car is still faster lol.

hmm just noticed that you said lap time... when we going to start auto crossin babe? Maybe hit the Streets of Willow at Willow Springs?

i told you when i get my car i want to autocross it. duh ;] :smack:
don't worry ill let you drive her too, i know youll want to experience my all wheel drive beast:rolling:

[enkeivette]

i told you when i get my car i want to autocross it. duh ;] :smack:
don't worry ill let you drive her too, i know youll want to experience my all wheel drive beast:rolling:

That's what she said.

[BlacknBoostn]

i told you when i get my car i want to autocross it. duh ;] :smack:
don't worry ill let you drive her too, i know youll want to experience my all wheel drive beast:rolling:

It's cool, I got a head start on you anyhow! My car will be quicker in a lot of ways...

[SeanPlunk]

It's cool, I got a head start on you anyhow! My car will be quicker in a lot of ways...

I love that the smack talking has begun and she doesn't even have the car yet :rolling:

[joedls]

Tyler, if you let a girl beat you, I'm kicking your ass.

[BlacknBoostn]

Tyler, if you let a girl beat you, I'm kicking your ass.

HAHA Just need the $$$ anything is possible... good thing I won't ever have to outrun your mustang.. I don't think i'll be able to haha even AFTER i'm modded! :drink:

[BlacknBoostn]

HAHA Just need the $$$ anything is possible... good thing I won't ever have to outrun your mustang.. I don't think i'll be able to haha even AFTER i'm modded! :drink:

goodness... when you going to get your mustang on a road course?