Dropping T56 from C3 RnR Time?

[Vettezuki]

Hey enkeivette, how long do you think it would take to remove a T56 from a C3? Mine no worky:sadbanana:

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[enkeivette]

I pulled mine out and put it back in, in one afternoon. Sucks without a lift, had to drop it on my chest, crunched my cell phone in the process. But it wasn't so bad, I'd rather pull my trans than swap those pedals or do a heater core.

And remember to pull the clutch fork. If you don't the trans won't slide out. If you need some help give me a call.

[Vettezuki]

I pulled mine out and put it back in, in one afternoon. Sucks without a lift, had to drop it on my chest, crunched my cell phone in the process. But it wasn't so bad, I'd rather pull my trans than swap those pedals or do a heater core.

And remember to pull the clutch fork. If you don't the trans won't slide out. If you need some help give me a call.

You'll be getting a call. BTW, clutch fork? I thought you had a hydraulic Slave . . .

[enkeivette]

Ohhh... that's right, you have the hydraulic throw out bearing. I do have a hydraulic slave, but it's a cylinder that pushes a clutch fork. The LT1 T56s use a fork while the LS1 T56s use a throw out bearing. That is basically the only difference between the two. Nevermind then.

[SeanPlunk]

I still think it had to be some kind of defect to just break like that, but what do I know. I think Brian's friend has a lift and he might be willing to let you use it. I'll have to ask him.

[enkeivette]

Also, you're going to want to support the oil pan before you try to pull the trans. Allow it to drop a little to get a useable angle, but you don't want the motor pushing down on the input shaft as you try to pull it out.

And I found that with this trans it's easier to remove the bellhousing from the engine rather than leaving the bellhousing bolted to the engine. It's tough to get to the bellhousing to trans bolts.

You should also remove the driveshaft completely to give yourself some working room. Give me a call though, I'll help. ;)

[Vettezuki]

Also, you're going to want to support the oil pan before you try to pull the trans. Allow it to drop a little to get a useable angle, but you don't want the motor pushing down on the input shaft as you try to pull it out.

And I found that with this trans it's easier to remove the bellhousing from the engine rather than leaving the bellhousing bolted to the engine. It's tough to get to the bellhousing to trans bolts.

You should also remove the driveshaft completely to give yourself some working room. Give me a call though, I'll help. ;)


Well, that's goddamned fascinating, because I tell you this, there ain't no way that trans is coming out WITH the bell housing. Remember I have an LS bell housing. There is a bolt from the bell housing to the motor which is totally unreachable (Driver-side high) when installed. Great, this sounds like we may have to remove the motor/trans from the top :( I can reach all the bolts, though one of them is hard, from the trans to the bell housing. . . I also have to locate the special tool for separating the hydraulic line to the throwout bearing. Man, this is fun.

[enkeivette]

If I remember correctly you can't get to the upper most bolt until you drop the back of the trans and the motor swings down. You do have an LS1 though! So your engine/ trans may be set back a little more than mine. In your case it might be easier to leave the bellhousing on the motor. But don't freak out, for problems there are only solutions. :D We'll get it out. I have ratcheting wrenches, they fit into very tight spaces.

How do you know that the internals are damaged BTW?

[Vettezuki]

If I remember correctly you can't get to the upper most bolt until you drop the back of the trans and the motor swings down. You do have an LS1 though! So your engine/ trans may be set back a little more than mine. In your case it might be easier to leave the bellhousing on the motor. But don't freak out, for problems there are only solutions. :D We'll get it out. I have ratcheting wrenches, they fit into very tight spaces.

How do you know that the internals are damaged BTW?

Fortunately, I'm well equipped with tools, including air tools and wratcheting wrenches, etc. But do need to get that special tool for release the hydraulic line from the throwout bearing. I don't know if the internals are damaged or not, it's more of a fear; like the reason the output shaft destroyed itself is because the internals grenaded first, binding, then releasing a lot of force through the output. . . Time will tell.:huh:

[SeanPlunk]

If we do this on a Saturday, I think we might be able to go to the dealership where Mike's dad works and put it on a lift there.

[Vettezuki]

If we do this on a Saturday, I think we might be able to go to the dealership where Mike's dad works and put it on a lift there.

That's a nice offer, but it means I'd have to have it towed there, and then back once the trans is out? It looks like, while not pleasant, getting it out from underneath is doable. I'll build a little plywood platform to support it and then use a jack. Thanks for the offer though. If it becomes too hellish, I might take you up on it after all.

[enkeivette]

Did the place that rebuilt your trans give you any kind of a warranty on the work that they did? If the internals were the cause of this, maybe it was one of their defective parts or maybe they forgot to torque something down...

[Vettezuki]

Did the place that rebuilt your trans give you any kind of a warranty on the work that they did? If the internals were the cause of this, maybe it was one of their defective parts or maybe they forgot to torque something down...

There is some kind of warranty. I think it was 1 year 12,000 miles. I'm beyond a year since it was rebuilt (though I've only been driving it for about 6 months), and I've only got about 3,000 miles on it. Once we get it out, I will most likely take it there. They're good guys and I think they'll treat me fairly.

[SeanPlunk]

I talked to Mike about this, and he said that we could just do it with jackstands. I definitely want to set time aside sometime after Christmas to get it done - I think it'll be an interesting project.

[enkeivette]

My buddy said that he'd be willing to order those parts for you with his autonation discount. :bigthumbsup:

[Vettezuki]

My buddy said that he'd be willing to order those parts for you with his autonation discount. :bigthumbsup:


Word! I'm let me know what times (probably after X-mas) are convenient for you to come and see what chaos I've got go'n on. I'll talk to the Toy Shop again and see if they might throw me a bone (I've only got about 3,500 miles after 8 months of driving since they rebuilt it.) Though it was sitting around for a hwile before being installed and so I'm technically out of my 1 year, 12 month warranty.

Most people think it was a defective part because a lot of guys put more power than I do through that stock shaft and other parts should have failed first. I'm not blaming the Toy Shop; it may simply have been one of those microscopic details that went undetected, and wouldn't have caused a failure if not for the harsh conditions.

[enkeivette]

True true. Someone might have dropped it, causing a hairline fracture. Or it might have been in an accident. This trans was probably moved around a lot, from the junkyard, to the speedshop.

I'm free tomorrow during the day, and Wednesday all day and night. I'm leaving for Big Bear this Friday, but after Xmas I should have loads of free time.

[Vettezuki]

. . . but after Xmas I should have loads of free time.

We'll see what I can do about that.:laugh:

[SeanPlunk]

I talked to Mike and I think we're looking at January for your parents cars too. What kind of cars are they(I know one is a diesel truck, what's the other?).

[Vettezuki]

I talked to Mike and I think we're looking at January for your parents cars too. What kind of cars are they(I know one is a diesel truck, what's the other?).

Durango and Diesel Truck

[Vettezuki]

True true. Someone might have dropped it, causing a hairline fracture. Or it might have been in an accident. This trans was probably moved around a lot, from the junkyard, to the speedshop.

I'm free tomorrow during the day, and Wednesday all day and night. I'm leaving for Big Bear this Friday, but after Xmas I should have loads of free time.


Great. How's today (12/26)?

[enkeivette]

What's up with the trans G money? Rebuilt yet? :huh:

[Vettezuki]

What's up with the trans G money? Rebuilt yet? :huh:


The internals looked okay. The shop says probably by Friday. Soo ah, how's your friday :)

PS Got my DS from O.C. Driveline today. They did very nice work at a fair price. It's a new shaft with new Gucci Spicer joints, cleaned up yoke and balanced of course: $230.

[enkeivette]

The internals looked okay. The shop says probably by Friday. Soo ah, how's your friday :)

PS Got my DS from O.C. Driveline today. They did very nice work at a fair price. It's a new shaft with new Gucci Spicer joints, cleaned up yoke and balanced of course: $230.

$230 http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/eek6.gif http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/leaving.gif

[Vettezuki]

$230 http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/eek6.gif http://images.corvetteforum.com/images/smilies/leaving.gif


HA! I should do an actual price breakdown and analysis of how much my conversion cost if you think that's anything. :laugh: :sadbanana:

[enkeivette]

Buy those blades yet?

[Vettezuki]

Buy those blades yet?

Que es "blades"?

I did get the metal spherical joints and solid pinion mount. I got both TAs off and the spindle apart from one of them, oh so much fun. Honestly, the play was from the spindle nut, just had to tighten it down, but I figure, this is a good learning project from the more advanced DIY realm so I'm going for it.

[enkeivette]

Que es "blades"?

I did get the metal spherical joints and solid pinion mount. I got both TAs off and the spindle apart from one of them, oh so much fun. Honestly, the play was from the spindle nut, just had to tighten it down, but I figure, this is a good learning project from the more advanced DIY realm so I'm going for it.

Blades to cut that TA bolt. How did you get it out?

[Vettezuki]

Blades to cut that TA bolt. How did you get it out?

Oh, those blades. :laugh: Yeah, I cut it out. It was a lot of fun.