Porsche Officially calls out Nissan!

[BADDASSC6]

This is just one of many articles, but they all pretty much say the same thing. Nissan used slicks and possibly a tuned version on the GTR. According to Porsche they were not able to get a time within 25 sec:smack: of the claimed 7:29! Calling bullshit on the GTR is not new, but this is another automobile manufacturer saying it's not possible:thumbs_up:





http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/porsche-accuses-nissan-gt-r-of-cheating-the-ring/

[SeanPlunk]

This is just one of many articles, but they all pretty much say the same thing. Nissan used slicks and possibly a tuned version on the GTR. According to Porsche they were not able to get a time within 25 sec:smack: of the claimed 7:29! Calling bullshit on the GTR is not new, but this is another automobile manufacturer saying it's not possible:thumbs_up:





http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/porsche-accuses-nissan-gt-r-of-cheating-the-ring/

So awesome. I also have heard the transmissions are made of glass and that if you turn of the VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) and torch the tranmission on a stock car they won't cover the warranty :sm_up_there:

[SeanPlunk]

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[SeanPlunk]

From the Nissan Board:

I was driving my gtr two weeks ago and I heard a loud noise coming from the rear. I turned immediately had my gtr towed to crown nissan st. petersburg fl. They didn't touch my car only called some techs from tennessee to look at the car and record the noise, 4 days later two guys from japan to download some info from the car then left. Then I get a call from the dealer to tell me the news, and they told me that the car was driven without vdc too much and nissan will not warranty the transmission which they said was destroyed, I asked them how much to fix it they told me 20k, no freaking way I will pay 20k on top of what i just paid for the car. I called the gtr number and also talked to nissan consumer affairs got nowhere, now the car is sitting at the dealer. I know we shouldn't launch the car but why own it if you cant use this function, don't sell a car that goes 0-60 in 3.4 sec if the only way you can achieve this speed is to void the warranty , false advertising. Here is the bad news people were fearing it has happened to me and Nissan has told me there are already three people in my shoes, if you are one of these people email me, we have got to get together on this. Just think if any of you guys have taken the vdc off just a few times you have already voided your warranty, good luck what a joke nissan.

[BADDASSC6]

What I've heard is that the transmission is only good for 15 launches:rolleyes: using the launch control!!!!! That's fucking awesome. OMFG I knew this was going to happen. As soon as the production models were release truth comes out and kick Nissan straight in the mouth:crutches:. Apparently when buying the car you have to sign acknowledging that the transmission has a limited number of launches, the brakes are louder than normal, and the excess tire wear due to "S" compound tires.

Frankly, the new evo is hte same way. I saw one shit it self at PIR with only a tune and some toyo R-888s.:huh:

[BADDASSC6]

From the Nissan Board:

I was driving my gtr two weeks ago and I heard a loud noise coming from the rear. I turned immediately had my gtr towed to crown nissan st. petersburg fl. They didn't touch my car only called some techs from tennessee to look at the car and record the noise, 4 days later two guys from japan to download some info from the car then left. Then I get a call from the dealer to tell me the news, and they told me that the car was driven without vdc too much and nissan will not warranty the transmission which they said was destroyed, I asked them how much to fix it they told me 20k, no freaking way I will pay 20k on top of what i just paid for the car. I called the gtr number and also talked to nissan consumer affairs got nowhere, now the car is sitting at the dealer. I know we shouldn't launch the car but why own it if you cant use this function, don't sell a car that goes 0-60 in 3.4 sec if the only way you can achieve this speed is to void the warranty , false advertising. Here is the bad news people were fearing it has happened to me and Nissan has told me there are already three people in my shoes, if you are one of these people email me, we have got to get together on this. Just think if any of you guys have taken the vdc off just a few times you have already voided your warranty, good luck what a joke nissan.

OOHHHH:eek: SSSSHHHHHHHHHIIIIITTT! That's fucking nuts!

[Vettezuki]

If this all pans out as bad as its described, it's actually tough for me to believe Nissan would have been this dopey. The GT-R was almost specifically designed to address the desire for their to be a Skyline in the States. Surely, they must have known Americans would drive them pretty hard, assuming they were getting what they paid for. It's not a Ferrari or prestige badge, this is supposed to be a bad mother fu*ker. I've talked plenty of shit on the GT-R (the numbers in some of the tests were literally beyond the bounds of physics as far as I could tell (low 11s @ 125~ in a 3,800lbs. 480BHP AWD?). If this turns out (especially the Porsche claim!), I'm actually sad. Secretly I was really hoping the GT-R would be all the hype claimed it to be.

As for me I guess I'll have to be content with hot lapping my big dumb simple American car on DRs.

[BADDASSC6]

Another funny little GTR fact. When the GTR was first introduced it wsa billed as unseating hte z06 as the best bang for the buck performance car. Nissan has raised MSRP for the GTR by $7,000. Approximately 10% of the original price. Now base price is $76,000 or the going rate for a Porsche 997 Carrera "S".:pot_stir:

[Vettezuki]

Another funny little GTR fact. When the GTR was first introduced it wsa billed as unseating hte z06 as the best bang for the buck performance car. Nissan has raised MSRP for the GTR by $7,000. Approximately 10% of the original price. Now base price is $76,000 or the going rate for a Porsche 997 Carrera "S".:pot_stir:


I won't break their balls for that. Current base C6Z MSRP is $75k, so definitely the same base price range. However, the GT-R production run size and markups put it much higher in reality. During Chevy's recent employee pricing deal I saw one Z for like $65k.

[fast eddie]

i knew there would be trouble in paradise for nissan.. maybe this is not such common problem, but for 80,000, i sure dont want to be the one to find out for myself... and as for them dethrowning the vette .. i dont think that will ever happen... nissan has limited itself in that market.. offering only one high horsepower car (and only one version of it) to get much real world R&D.. and now with bad press things will only get worse before they get better... good luck to them nissan owners...

[Vettezuki]

i knew there would be trouble in paradise for nissan.. maybe this is not such common problem, but for 80,000, i sure dont want to be the one to find out for myself... and as for them dethrowning the vette .. i dont think that will ever happen... nissan has limited itself in that market.. offering only one high horsepower car (and only one version of it) to get much real world R&D.. and now with bad press things will only get worse before they get better... good luck to them nissan owners...

I think a Spec-V is still in the pipeline. It would approximately be to the GT-R what the ZR1 is to the ZO6, though more hard core and lighter etc., whereas the ZR1 is actually a nicer GT than than the Z.

I think you're right about the problems of run size. This is their first year, some problems are to be expected and will take time to refine, but may be very difficult with only a couple thousand units a year. But if regular guys start showing up at track events in their truly stock GT-Rs and getting their asses handed to them by stock C6Zs, Nissan is going to have some serious explaining to do. There's already a ton of videos showing GT-R getting flat walked by the Z on the streets.

[Vettezuki]

Chevy should let Porsche borrow a ZR1 and see what it does with one of their bad boy drivers. :thumbs_up:

[enkeivette]

What sucks about modern electronically controlled transmissions is, they need to be programmed and re-calibrated after being installed. There is no hope for those owners to buy a trans from Nissan and install it in there driveway, not even an independent mechanic will be able to service it. They'll need to take it to Nissan and cough up the $20K.

[BADDASSC6]

Base price for the Z06 is still $69k. Even though I have seen talks of price increases across the board.

Yeah, $20K for a transmission! Wow:suicide:. i'm sorry but for $20K it needs to be absolutely bulletproof.

[Vettezuki]

Base price for the Z06 is still $69k. Even though I have seen talks of price increases across the board.

Yeah, $20K for a transmission! Wow:suicide:. i'm sorry but for $20K it needs to be absolutely bulletproof.

I guess they've already hit. I checked the Chevy site before posting, they said:

Starts at $74,775*


BTW, you need this transmission:
http://www.jericoperformance.com/4.html

Buy two and give me one as a finder's fee. LOL.

[1pewtZ]

I guess they've already hit. I checked the Chevy site before posting, they said:

Starts at $74,775*


BTW, you need this transmission:
http://www.jericoperformance.com/4.html

Buy two and give me one as a finder's fee. LOL.

Damn that thing looks nice

[enkeivette]

Base price for the Z06 is still $69k. Even though I have seen talks of price increases across the board.

Yeah, $20K for a transmission! Wow:suicide:. i'm sorry but for $20K it needs to be absolutely bulletproof.

For $20K it needs to come with a h**ker that will s**k you off every night before you go to bed.

[BRUTAL64]

For $20K it needs to come with a h**ker that will s**k you off every night before you go to bed.

A "do it all tranny"----priceless.:D

[94cobra69ss396]

For $20K it needs to come with a h**ker that will s**k you off every night before you go to bed.

That only comes with the Japan spec version.

[Vettezuki]

That only comes with the Japan spec version.

JDM FTW.

[Chate]

You know the boys at nissan are trying to fix the problem, they're just buying time by telling people off. Once a good number of folks have the problem they're gonna say "ohhhh Kayyyy" and fix it, then nissan becomes the greatest car company ever for giving everyone new trannys...and we live happily ever after...

see microsoft with the RROD for details.

I know its wishful thinking, i just want a couple GTRs to be around in 10 or so years when i can afford a used one!!