So I'm still set on black, but...

[enkeivette]

Haven't yet decided what type of black. :smack: I'm not really looking for opinions so much as examples or experience, if any of you have experience spraying these or pics of any of these. Please post cuz I need to buy the paint like, yesterday. I can't find pics of any of these believe it or not.


Black gunmetal candy (flake) over a black base.

Black candy (dye) over a metallic blue base. (This is my favorite idea as of now, but I'm told it would be nearly impossible to shoot. Can you see the silver beneath the black in the pic below? Imagine it were blue)

HOK Immitation Candy?

Black candy (dye) over a metallic silver base. This is the only one I have been able to find:
http://www.alsacorp.com/products/candyconcentrates/images/order/candy03_L.jpg

[SexyLxy]

Just make a decision and get your s!@# painted already. How long has it been? You need to get your ride on the road by october....(I'm starting to think that ain't happening). I'm only kidding but...but seriously...make a decision and get a move on. :D

[BRUTAL64]

Just make a decision and get your s!@# painted already. How long has it been? You need to get your ride on the road by october....(I'm starting to think that ain't happening). I'm only kidding but...but seriously...make a decision and get a move on. :D


I think he should take his time. Just like me. Primer Black is cool.:p

[enkeivette]

I'll probably take Glenn's advice, primer it, take it on the cruise, look for cracks, then paint it. Guess I'll just wear ear plugs on the cruise.

It has been about 4 months now, if you've ever taken off 7 layers of paint and crap with a DA and by hand, you'd understand better why it's taking so long. This ain't no scuff and spray job. I want the clear to last for more than 4 years this time.

[Vettezuki]

I'll probably take Glenn's advice, primer it, take it on the cruise, look for cracks, then paint it. Guess I'll just wear ear plugs on the cruise.

It has been about 4 months now, if you've ever taken off 7 layers of paint and crap with a DA and by hand, you'd understand better why it's taking so long. This ain't no scuff and spray job. I want the clear to last for more than 4 years this time.

It's going to be great when your done. I love the greyish black above, but maybe a little less flake.

[enkeivette]

It's going to be great when your done. I love the greyish black above, but maybe a little less flake.

The funny thing about that is, it's actually silver. You spray on a metallic silver base coat... the car looks silver, then you spray on a candy black clear and finish up with the clear coat. It's a 3 stage paint job. The car would look jet black at night and even in the afternoon, but under the sun you would be able to see the silver underneath, depending on the angle. It's pretty trick.

But candies are hard to do. Not enough and it won't look black, too much and the silver won't show through. Also candies tend to spit, even looking at the sample I can see three spots of black spit.

I was leaning towards doing a blue base underneath yesterday, but now I'm thinking the silver base would match the wheels nicely.

[CorruptCulture]

Who's doing the painting?

[big_G]

Candies, especially lighter shades, are next to impossible to touch up. I strongly advise my customers to re-think any candy job that will see street usage. PPG and DuPont have some high-end 2 stage paints that mimic candies pretty well. Check them out if you can. BTW, once you go black, you never go back. BTW, the center stripe is wineberry over pure gold 3 stage candy. I painted the 'Vette in 1989, still holding up pretty well. :bigthumbsup:http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/big_G1/PDRM0629.jpg

[enkeivette]

Who's doing the painting?

Bill Maynard, Eric's Dad.

Big G, your car is gorgeous! The body and paint are too good to be true. I probably wouldn't be doing any touch ups, I don't have regular access to spray equipment.

So I'm told that candies are extraordinarily hard to spray. I've been told it's easy to make them look blotchy, is this true? Any advice? Warnings?

[CorruptCulture]

Bill Maynard, Eric's Dad.

Big G, your car is gorgeous! The body and paint are too good to be true. I probably wouldn't be doing any touch ups, I don't have regular access to spray equipment.

So I'm told that candies are extraordinarily hard to spray. I've been told it's easy to make them look blotchy, is this true? Any advice? Warnings?

Oh good deal. How's he doing? I know he wasn't in the best shape about a year or two ago.

[big_G]

Bill Maynard, Eric's Dad.

Big G, your car is gorgeous! The body and paint are too good to be true. I probably wouldn't be doing any touch ups, I don't have regular access to spray equipment.

So I'm told that candies are extraordinarily hard to spray. I've been told it's easy to make them look blotchy, is this true? Any advice? Warnings?

The mid stage colors are translucent, as they get more saturated (darker) with each pass of the gun. This is what makes touch-ups and blends impossible. If the gun is not set up perfect and/or the painter is not "on his game" there will be mottling, tiger stripes etc. in the finish. Looks like crap when done. Great looking when properly executed, but there are drawbacks.

[enkeivette]

The mid stage colors are translucent, as they get more saturated (darker) with each pass of the gun. This is what makes touch-ups and blends impossible. If the gun is not set up perfect and/or the painter is not "on his game" there will be mottling, tiger stripes etc. in the finish. Looks like crap when done. Great looking when properly executed, but there are drawbacks.

I guess I'll stay away from it then. I wouldn't want to risk it, I can imagine how hard it would be to avoid the tiger stripes when doing an entire car candy. Damn, I was excited for that.

Steve, he's doing great. Healthy, retired and enjoying life.

[enkeivette]

Check out what Karsten did to your car Big G!
What do yall think? Dig the charcoal stripe over the black?

http://www.vettemod.com/forum/imagehosting/2148e4d91b46e4b.jpg

[Vettezuki]

Check out what Karsten did to your car Big G!
What do yall think? Dig the charcoal stripe over the black?


I like the idea, but I think a quick gradient rather than a hard line would make a cooler effect IMO.

[enkeivette]

Quick gradient? Hard line? :confused:

http://i35.tinypic.com/29zv8nm.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/2mo6yyh.jpg

[big_G]

Check out what Karsten did to your car Big G!
What do yall think? Dig the charcoal stripe over the black?

http://www.vettemod.com/forum/imagehosting/2148e4d91b46e4b.jpg

Ha....You want my opinion...be careful what you ask for...lol...I prefer an intense stripe color, like metallic cobalt blue or any candy using gold or silver as a base. A subtle color stripe will get lost in the black. I even went as far as putting gold side accents on either side of the red center stripe. You want the eye to be drawn to the stripe, IMO. You should see the stripes under night lights...POP!
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/big_G1/StingrayAlley002.jpg?t=1223003450

[Vettezuki]

I think if you have a strong contrast, a sharp line is cool. I think when you you're going between closely related shades (black, to dark charcoal for example) a quick gradient, that is a transition, might come off kinda neat. JMO

A gradient is like in our logo down the helix from black to white.

[enkeivette]

See page 3 for pics.

[enkeivette]

Still leaning towards the charcoal stripe, considering going with a lighter shade of charcoal to match the wheel spokes.

[enkeivette]

Talk about subtle. This looks rad.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q46/bike4christ1/blackonblackGTS10.jpg

[enkeivette]

Looks better in the daylight. What do you guys think?!

http://i36.tinypic.com/549e38.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2zibj3b.jpg

[Vettezuki]

I think the light charcoal stripe would look cooler.

[BRUTAL64]

I think the light charcoal stripe would look cooler.


I agree. The Blue doesn't work for me.:leaving:

[enkeivette]

I agree... I think the blue is too... pretty? Well I'm going to try one more color, that's all! I promise!!! I'm going to look for a charcoal color that matches the inner spokes of my wheels, I'll see what you guys think, then I'll buy the freakin paint already.

Plan is to have it epoxy primered this week! Still sanding away though. The spoiler might not be ready for the run, don't get your hopes up.

[Vettezuki]

I agree... I think the blue is too... pretty? Well I'm going to try one more color, that's all! I promise!!! I'm going to look for a charcoal color that matches the inner spokes of my wheels, I'll see what you guys think, then I'll buy the freakin paint already.

Plan is to have it epoxy primered this week! Still sanding away though. The spoiler might not be ready for the run, don't get your hopes up.

I think Black and Blue can look nice as a color scheme in some cases, but in this case I think it'd end up looking like a giant blue paint roller went over your car. The model isn't helping that image, :rolling: but I think you get the idea.

[big_G]

I still think a dark blue candy stripe would work great.

[SeanPlunk]

The blue stripe does not look good - go with the grey.

[enkeivette]

There will be no blue. Sean has spoken. :judge::D I think if I had some blue in the wheels to match it would work, but that's not the look I'm going for. Wait, I can't end my sentence with a preposition. For that is not the look that I am going...? Hahaha.

I'm going to get some paint to match the wheels tomorrow and spray it again. Stand by for Adam's final paint color query. BTW I decided against the flames for the same reason, they'd be cool at first, but it's too blingy for a street car.

[Vettezuki]

There will be no blue. Sean has spoken. :judge::D I think if I had some blue in the wheels to match it would work, but that's not the look I'm going for. Wait, I can't end my sentence with a preposition. For that is not the look that I am going...? Hahaha.

I'm going to get some paint to match the wheels tomorrow and spray it again. Stand by for Adam's final paint color query. BTW I decided against the flames for the same reason, they'd be cool at first, but it's too blingy for a street car.

"Because that look does not comply with my design intention." But then you'll start sounding like me, and nobody wants that.

As for flames, is there really such a thing as too much bling? I personally think a stripe and flames doesn't work because they don't play nice as design elements. Your attention gets distracted between the two. I actually prefer subtle ghost flames to a stripe. You have to be very careful with a stripe on a C3 IMO. Personally I don't think it works so well with an 80-82 style hood because the straight line of the stripe interferes with the very nice line in the Cowl.

[enkeivette]

"Because that look does not comply with my design intention." But then you'll start sounding like me, and nobody wants that.

As for flames, is there really such a thing as too much bling? I personally think a stripe and flames doesn't work because they don't play nice as design elements. Your attention gets distracted between the two. I actually prefer subtle ghost flames to a stripe. You have to be very careful with a stripe on a C3 IMO. Personally I don't think it works so well with an 80-82 style hood because the straight line of the stripe interferes with the very nice line in the Cowl.

I agree, but I have the 75-79 hood remember. I decided to go with the 82 model for the bumpers. I bought it when I was stil planning to mold in the 82 bumper.

[Vettezuki]

I agree, mut I have the 75-79 hood remember. I decided to go with the 82 model for the bumpers. I bought it when I was stil planning to mold in the 82 bumper.


Well then, JMO, a subtly blended charcoal stripe against the black following the line of the cowl should be quite nice. Then some massive rotors and Red Brembo Calipers (or at least Red) will pop hard. :thumbs_up:

[enkeivette]

Silver is too bright, what do you guys think? There were no shades of spray paint between the charcoal and the silver. I'll try to tint the silver with some black tomorrow.

http://i38.tinypic.com/17wigz.jpg

[enkeivette]

OK, here is the closest I could get to a graphite stripe. I misted the carcoal over the silver and somewhat over the black to give it a metallic look. As for the actual color, I'll probably use PPG dark slate grey for the stripe, the Viper color and maybe the Porsche metallic black for the rest of the car.

Here's the graphite with slight metallic black:
http://i38.tinypic.com/vcuvyg.jpg

Here's the graphite with very metallic black.
http://i37.tinypic.com/11afx1w.jpg

Here's the original concept with the charcoal:
http://i38.tinypic.com/2mo6yyh.jpg


I'm pretty much set on the graphite stripe over a metallic black. But be sure to save your negative opinions till after I get it painted. :rolling:

[Vettezuki]

OK, here is the closest I could get to a graphite stripe. I misted the carcoal over the silver and somewhat over the black to give it a metallic look. As for the actual color, I'll probably use PPG dark slate grey for the stripe, the Viper color and maybe the Porsche metallic black for the rest of the car.



I think you've got something there. Run with it. :thumbs_up:

[enkeivette]

Not that I'm still considering it, but in defense of my blue on black idea. It can look cool, it depends on the layout and the shade and intensity of blue.

http://www.gsx-r.eu/afbeeldingen/Specials/Sentenary-2.jpg

Too bad the hood was up in this pic.

http://www.twistedkustoms.net/albums/24/images/DSCF0320.jpg

[SeanPlunk]

Not that I'm still considering it, but in defense of my blue on black idea. It can look cool, it depends on the layout and the shade and intensity of blue.

http://www.gsx-r.eu/afbeeldingen/Specials/Sentenary-2.jpg

Too bad the hood was up in this pic.

http://www.twistedkustoms.net/albums/24/images/DSCF0320.jpg

Hey, your car looked really good by the way. The quality of work you have put in really is amazing for your first time doing it. Everything looked very smooth. It's going to look awesome painted.

[enkeivette]

This is the best pic of blue pearl over black that I've ever seen. And I've been googling for awhile. So I'm posting it for reference. As you can see in the pic, sometimes the car can look simply dark blue, it's too much under direct sun IMO.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/chibo/chibo-m3frontnew.jpg

Car is scheduled for expoxy primer this Friday BTW.

[enkeivette]

Primer got pushed back to Monday morning, and hopefully the paint will go on later next week also.

As for the color, I changed my mind about 10 more times since my last post. So I decided to stop posting because I was driving myself crazy... literally insane, and I didn't feel the need to drive all of you crazy also. But then I saw this motorcylce on the autobody forums, it's actually a black with gun metal gray pearl. My problem with the pearls is that they can sometimes totally take on the color of the pearl, depending on the light and angle. And I didn't want my car to look blue again, which is the pearl commonly used over black. But then I saw PBC43, love at first sight. It shifts from black to metallic gun metal gray pearl (which was the other color that I was considering!). So without further introduction, here it is.

And I ordered the paint today, dropped over a grand on it! So there's no going back now!!!


http://i34.tinypic.com/2myog7m.jpg

[Vettezuki]

Primer got pushed back to Monday morning, and hopefully the paint will go on later next week also.

As for the color, I changed my mind about 10 more times since my last post. So I decided to stop posting because I was driving myself crazy... literally insane, and I didn't feel the need to drive all of you crazy also. But then I saw this motorcylce on the autobody forums, it's actually a black with gun metal gray pearl. My problem with the pearls is that they can sometimes totally take on the color of the pearl, depending on the light and angle. And I didn't want my car to look blue again, which is the pearl commonly used over black. But then I saw PBC43, love at first sight. It shifts from black to metallic gun metal gray pearl (which was the other color that I was considering!). So without further introduction, here it is.

And I ordered the paint today, dropped over a grand on it! So there's no going back now!!!




It looks like it has a layer of wax that needs to be buffed out. Wow I'm a dick.

[enkeivette]

It looks like it has a layer of wax that needs to be buffed out. Wow I'm a dick.

That's probably due to how thick he put the clear on. I like the depth of the shine. Unless you're talking about the gun metal look, that's just how it looks. Sorry if you don't like it, but it looks like liquid sex to me. Here's another.

Look at the bottom panel in this pic, it's so black it almost looks like he painted it a different color.
http://i36.tinypic.com/29ho2w.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/331olmo.jpg

[Vettezuki]

Nah, I like Gun Metal. Just wanted to see if I could shake your choice. You know, for fun.

[BRUTAL64]

Nah, I like Gun Metal. Just wanted to see if I could shake your choice. You know, for fun.


You Richard!:laugh: The poor guy has finally decided on his color. I like it.
Won't paint my vehicle, but I like the color.:p