First Ford Raptor hits the lot!

[SeanPlunk]

I like it - I think it's pretty impressive for the money (http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141680) :drink:

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[SeanPlunk]

Some White ones:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7658/raptor10.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/831/raptor11.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8679/raptor12.jpg

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http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3886/raptor17.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7083/raptor18.jpg

[SeanPlunk]

More Blue :drool:

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/images/raptor/blue01.jpg

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/images/raptor/blue03.jpg

http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/images/raptor/blue04.jpg

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[BRUTAL64]

I really want one.:thumbs_up:

[SeanPlunk]

I really want one.:thumbs_up:

Me too, and I must admit I dig the blue color :bigthumbsup:

[Leedom]

:drool: Nuf said.

Here is an article from Ford on the truck and some of the testing that it went through for the engine.

http://www.fordracing.com/news/detail/?article=36787

[SeanPlunk]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/11/fordsvtraptorlive_25.jpg

Black - no graphics :drool:

[Leedom]

Blue-no graphics! :hail:

[SeanPlunk]

Reviews are coming out (http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/first-drive-review-2010-ford-f150-svt-raptor.html) :judge:

[Leedom]

Reviews are coming out (http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/first-drive-review-2010-ford-f150-svt-raptor.html) :judge:

:thumbs_up:

[BRUTAL64]

"The Ford F-150 SVT Raptor is so much more than merely Built Ford Tough. It's Built Raptor Good. And for that, we applaud them-and shed a tear and tip a glass to The Good Old Days.."

That about covers it.:drink:

"The Raptor can do things we didn’t think were possible in a factory pickup. We don’t really know or care how it was given the OK by Ford’s attorneys. The fact is, it’s available now and it’s virtually perfect for the application for which it’s built. We’re just happy Ford’s legal eagles must like their Raptor as much as we do."

[Vettezuki]

I hope sales support the effort. I don't put on a lot of miles most of the time. If my personal situation were different, I'd seriously consider replacing my utility truck and dd with one since it could kinda do both.

[SeanPlunk]

HeyPal said they have a black one with no graphics at Ford of Orange. I might go take a look this weekend.

[Leedom]

HeyPal said they have a black one with no graphics at Ford of Orange. I might go take a look this weekend.

Lets get a test drive!

[BRUTAL64]

Lets get a test drive!

Let's get all the guys together and go at the same time.:judge:

[SeanPlunk]

Maybe Sunday :huh:

[BRUTAL64]

Good web sites.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/f150raptor/

http://www.f150svtraptor.com/

The one I want is about $42,500.

[BRUTAL64]

Just did the math for the Raptor.

10% down- 72 months $700.00 per month payments.:censored:

[SeanPlunk]

Just did the math for the Raptor.

10% down- 72 months $700.00 per month payments.:censored:

I'd for sure wait for a used one. I think with the 6.2 coming out that the 5.4trucks will be in the 20's within two years.

[BRUTAL64]

I'd for sure wait for a used one. I think with the 6.2 coming out that the 5.4trucks will be in the 20's within two years.

You would actually buy a USED off road truck? You worry me.:D

[SeanPlunk]

You would actually buy a USED off road truck? You worry me.:D

If it's still under warranty I don't care. I bought a USED Cobra and it's been great :bigthumbsup:

[BRUTAL64]

If it's still under warranty I don't care. I bought a USED Cobra and it's been great :bigthumbsup:

So all you need is a warranty? How about the 30 30 warranty---- 30 feet or 30 seconds which ever comes first.:laugh:

[SoCalC55]

Needs to be Black(no graphics) and have the 6.2 and id rock it every day of the week

Something about that truck leaves even the mighty 5.4 lacking

[Vettezuki]

If it's still under warranty I don't care. I bought a USED Cobra and it's been great :bigthumbsup:

:iagree:

Plus it's not like 95% of the buyers of this thing are going to take it seriously off roading any more than most owners of giant diesel trucks pull a damn thing. :nutkick:

[SeanPlunk]

:iagree:

Plus it's not like 95% of the buyers of this thing are going to take it seriously off roading any more than most owners of giant diesel trucks pull a damn thing. :nutkick:

Exactly. I would love to take a Raptor up to Pismo Beach or something though, I bet it would be awesome.

[SeanPlunk]

Needs to be Black(no graphics) and have the 6.2 and id rock it every day of the week

Something about that truck leaves even the mighty 5.4 lacking

I agree. I'd wait for the 6.2. I would do either Black or Blue, no graphics :D

[BRUTAL64]

I agree. I'd wait for the 6.2. I would do either Black or Blue, no graphics :D

6.2 ---either white or black. Graphics.....maybe.:drink:


$700 a month payments...tough to decide.:(

[Leedom]

Ototillo Wells, Stoddard Wells would also be fun too.

The problem like they said was sand. Off-roading in sand is hard for any truck. The 5.4 would be fine with the normal use most people are going to be putting it through. I wonder how long the recommended shock rebuild is going to be and if the dealers will be able to do them or if they are going to have to be sent out?

[BRUTAL64]

I was talking to some of the Off-road builders by my shop. Word from them is FORD already has 15,000 orders for the Raptor.:huh:

[BRUTAL64]

Base price: $38,995


Engine: 5.4-liter V-8


Valvetrain: SOHC, three valves per cylinder


Horsepower: 310 @ 5,000 rpm (gas) / 320 @ 5,000 rpm (E85)


Torque (pounds-feet): 365 @ 3,500 rpm (gas) / 390 @ 3,500rpm (E85)


Transmission: Six-speed automatic

Axle ratio: 4.10

Suspension (f/r): Unequal-length control arms, coilover shocks/single-stage leaf spring, piggyback reservoir shocks

Steering: Power rack and pinion

Brakes (f/r): 13.78-inch vented discs / 13.7-inch vented discs

Wheels/tires: Cast-aluminum 17x8.5-inch/LT315/70R17 BFGoodrich All-Terrain

Wheelbase (in.): 133.1

Length (in.): 222.1

Width (in.): 86.6


Height (in.): 78.4

Track (in.): 73.6

Curb Weight (lb.): 5,888 (preliminary)

Ground clearance (in.): 11.2

Approach (deg.): 29.8

Departure (deg.): 26.1

Breakover (deg): 20.8

Maximum towing capacity (lb.): 6,000

Fuel capacity (gal.): 26.0

EPA mileage estimates (mpg): 14 mpg / 18 mpg / 15 mpg

Seating capacity: 5
:judge:

[BRUTAL64]

All 2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptors will come standard with the following content:

* Internal Triple-bypass Fox Racing Shox providing over 11 inches of front suspension travel and over 12 inches of rear suspension travel (the first internal bypass shocks from an OEM)
* Unique cast-aluminum SVT lower control arms
* Special 4.10 rear axle with Electronic Locking Differential
* 17" cast-aluminum wheels with SVT-tuned BFGoodrich 35" All-Terrain T/A KO tires
* Hill Descent Control (a Ford Brand first)
* Unique center console with switches for hill descent control, off-road mode and additional accessories
* Massive front skid plate that protects the front underbody and engine
* Black interior environment with unique black leather/cloth trimmed front captains chairs that are designed to be extra supportive in aggressive off-road driving
* Flow through console and floor shifter
* Unique exterior design that is 7" wider than a standard F-150 and features a unique grille, front fenders, hood with air extractors, front bumper and box outer panels
* Front and rear tow hooks
* Sirius satellite radio and Sync
:bigthumbsup:

[BRUTAL64]

The F-150 SVT Raptor will offer the following unique packages and options:

Luxury Package: $ 1,950 MSRP

* 10 Way Power Driver and Passenger Seats with Heat
* Dual Electronic Automatic Temperature Control
* Sony Audio with Multi CD
* Power Heated Signal mirrors
* Power Adjustable Pedals
* Memory System – Power Adjustable Pedals, Power Mirrors, Power Seats

Exterior Graphics Package: $ 1,075 MSRP

* Box Side "Digital Mud" Graphics

Interior Color Accent Package: $ 395 MSRP

* Orange-Accented Front Seats – Unique Leather-Insert Seating Surfaces
* Orange-Accented Rear Seat Vinyl Seating Surfaces
* Orange-Accented Instrument Panel
* Center Stack Appliqué Finish
* Orange-Accented Door Panel Appliqué Finish

F-150 SVT Raptor will be available in 4 exterior colors:

* Oxford White
* Molten Orange Tri-coat ($495 MSRP)
* Tuxedo Black
* Blue Flame

Additionally, the F-150 SVT Raptor will share the following stand alone options with the base F-150:

* Stowable Bed Extender $ 195 MSRP
* Tailgate Step $ 350 MSRP
* Power Moonroof $ 995 MSRP
* Trailer Brake Controller $ 230 MSRP
* Reverse Camera $ 450 MSRP
* Navigation system $ 2,430 MSRP (requires Luxury Package)
Capability
* Max towing: 6,000 lbs
* Maximum payload: 1,020 lbs
:hail:

[BRUTAL64]

Powertrain

The Raptor’s inaugural 320-horsepower, 5.4-liter V-8 engine with 390 pounds-feet of torque will be identical to the 5.4-liter V-8 available in the rest of the F-150 lineup, but that won’t be the case for long.

Several months after its summer debut, by the end of 2009, the Raptor will receive Ford’s brand-new, large-displacement, two-valve OHC 6.2-liter premium V-8. This is the engine formerly referred to as the Boss V-8, and the Hurricane before that. Final power figures haven’t been set, but it’s expected to be naturally aspirated and produce approximately 400 hp and more than 400 pounds-feet of torque.


There may be another engine offered for the 2011 model year or later, but Ford is being coy about that information.

Both the 5.4-liter and the 6.2-liter V-8s will be paired with the F-150’s all-new six-speed automatic transmission.

Standing in for supercharged mechanical enhancements, SVT has created a special powertrain operating mode, called Off-Road Mode, that’s entirely unique to the Raptor and works in two or four-wheel drive. Off-Road Mode, activated with the push of a button, changes the engine’s throttle map, leaving the butterfly valve full open when pushing the accelerator pedal down through its entire arc. That’s intended to give it linear throttle response, like a race truck, instead of high power at the beginning and tapered at the end, like a street truck. Off-Road Mode also changes the transmission’s shift points to hold its gear and not upshift after letting off the throttle at high speeds. It also locks out the sixth gear overdrive at the top of the transmission to keep the rpm high.

:motorsmile:

[BRUTAL64]

Features of the new 6.2-liter V-8 engine include:

* Cast-iron engine block and four-bolt main bearing caps, with additional cross bolts, for durability
* Aluminum cylinder heads, with two valves per cylinder head and two spark plugs per cylinder to more efficiently burn the fuel-air mixture in the combustion
* Single overhead camshaft with roller-rocker shaft drivetrain, which creates a stiff valvetrain that allows optimized camshaft lift profiles and results in better low-speed torque. The roller-rocker shafts allow valve angles to be splayed, resulting in optimized intake and exhaust port layout for better engine “breathing”
* Dual-equal variable cam timing means intake and exhaust valve opening and closing events are phased at the same time to optimize fuel economy and performance throughout the engine speed range and throttle positions

Core to the improvements is using a larger bore and shorter stroke. This approach to creating power has its roots in storied Ford racing engines from the past. The large bore (102 mm) allows for larger intake and exhaust valves for improved engine breathing, and the shorter stroke (95 mm) allows higher engine speed for increased horsepower. Still, peak horsepower is generated at a relatively modest 5,500 rpm. Piston cooling jets squirt oil on the underside of the pistons to keep the piston crowns cool under extreme operating conditions.
Crankcase breathing is also improved to reduce windage losses and oil aeration levels at very high speeds. “That really helps get a robust lubrication system for the engine,” said Harrison. “It allows us to endure a lot of time at extreme high speeds.”

:drink:

[BRUTAL64]

Guess nobody is interested.:bang:

[Vettezuki]

I saw one on the road the other day. Pretty darn good looking truck. If you're into this sort of thing it's probably a decent value too.

[Leedom]

I need to get behind the wheel of one.

This truck is a pretty good value. A suspension system like this in the aftermarket will run you $4 to $5K installed, without a warrantee.

[BRUTAL64]

http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.com/2010-Ford-F-150#page=/ChooseYourPath/?EmailID=E_HRFU_FH_Single&srcCode=312456

Ok, here you go--all the info on what you can order.:thumbs_up:

[BRUTAL64]

We Test Drive The 2010 Ford SVT Raptor
Ford's SVT Raptor Is All Business
by Rex Roy | AOL Autos
Posted: Sep, 16 2009


Chevrolet Silverado HDs are made for towing and hauling. HUMMERs are made for off-roading. But what's the purpose of the new 2010 Ford SVT Raptor? Is this just a plain F-150 with a fru-fru trim package made up of big wheels and a stick-on graphics package? Or could this the world's newest super truck?
William Jeanes, AOL Autos

Those who know trucks will recognize these models that qualify as past honorees of the super truck world: Dodge's Little Red Express, the Chevy Silverado SS 454, the GMC Syclone, the Dodge Ram SRT/10, or two generations of Ford's F-150 Lightning. These trucks oozed performance, and all delivered with a ferocity that would leave most muscle cars in their dust.

But the 2010 Ford SVT Raptor doesn't look anything like these aforementioned super trucks. These were mostly hunkered-down trucks with low-profile tires, and dropped suspensions. They delivered optimal performance on pavement.


In contrast, the Raptor's body sits high, perched on aggressive off-road tires that would just as soon pummel asphalt in pea-size pebbles than roll smoothly over it. But does this truck deliver what its looks promise?

Ford Builds A Desert Racer
While every past super truck was designed for driving on paved roads and tracks, the SVT Raptor promises to literally fly across the surface of the desert. What would motivate Ford Motor Company to introduce such a different kind of super truck?

The answer is threefold. The first is that high-performance trucks attract attention to the entire line of F-Series trucks. Ford's marketing people like this. A second reason is that Ford employs engineers who genuinely love performance. Those engineers aren't shy about offering up ideas on what's they'd like to see in Ford showrooms. The third is that hi-po street trucks have been done before. Ford didn't want to simply microwave warm up an old idea.

Taken all together, these points formed a rationale that helped point Ford toward a new kind of high-performance truck.

Ford's collection of speed-crazed engineers goes by the name of SVT (Special Vehicle Team). This group was responsible for past Lighting pickup trucks, as well as the Ford GT supercar, and the recently released Shelby GT500 Mustang.

The face of SVT is their chief engineer, Jamal Hameedi. He said, "We saw where the truck market was going, and doing another high-performance street truck wasn't the best idea. We needed to do something original, and we wanted something that a different owner segment of the trucking world would appreciate." SVT decided to focus on the fans and participants of desert racing.

Racing trucks, dune buggies, and ATVs through the desert is a popular activity in the Southwest. Off-road races are common in California and Nevada, as well as on Mexico's Baja peninsula. Plus, these states have hundreds of thousands of acres of public land that are open to off-road recreational vehicles. Like a racetrack is for a Shelby GT500, these areas provide a safe place let vehicles like the Raptor stretch their legs.

Raptor's Talons
Manufacturers have offered off-road packages on their trucks for decades. Equipment usually includes skid plates, bigger tires, differently calibrated dampers (shock absorbers and/or struts), and maybe some extra driveline cooling. Packages like these often improve low-speed off-roading capabilities, but compromise higher-speed on-road driving with mushy steering response and a floppy, unpleasant ride.

SVT went much farther with their Raptor. The team's goal was to create a truck that could be driven off road like a Baja pre-race runner while retaining a civil on-road ride. It also had to pass durability tests so that it could carry a full Ford warranty.

Suspension travel is key to running fast in the desert. The Raptor has approximately 50-percent more travel than a standard 4x4 pickup. To achieve wheel travel of 11.2 inches in front and 12.1 inches at the rear, Ford widened the track of the base F-150 Super Cab by seven inches. This allowed for greater articulation with stock suspension pick-up points. As proof of the standard F-150's toughness, the stock frame could more than handle the added stresses, so it remains unchanged.

Ford tapped an aftermarket supplier to help with the design of the Raptor's shock absorbers. FOX Racing Shox engineered and produces the ultra-heavy-duty shocks for the Raptor that look like something built for NASA. These special shocks can absorb huge inputs (like the truck going over riverbeds at 80 mph) without letting the wheels smash into the body. A good thing, to be sure.

Huge BF Goodrich TA/KO 315/70 35-inch tires surround 17-inch alloy wheels. The tires feature a special tread compound and pattern that provides impressive grip and surprisingly great road feel, a completely unexpected combination.

Underbody armor is standard, with a substantial skid plate up front, plus a second unit under the transfer case. Other special hardware includes an electronically locking rear differential, a seriously recalibrated stability control program (with special controls for off-road driving), and practical hill decent control that makes going down steep grades much safer.

The New Wrapper
A nearly all-new body wraps around the Raptor's wider stance; a full eight inches wider than a base F-150. At 86.3-inches, it nearly matches the width of HUMMER H1, and requires additional marker lights to comply with DOT regulations. The front fenders and hood are made from sheet-molded compound (a plastic polymer), as are the rear fenders.

The semi-Frenched headlights showcase the truck's width, which it wears well. The big FORD grill even looks reasonable in this setting. The headlights, however, are stock F-150 units.

Inside, the excellent front seats that were new on the 2009 F-150 provide even more comfort and lateral support. Bigger bolsters work to keep you in your place whether you're shooting off-ramps or dry riverbeds. Lots of interior choice keeps things interesting, including orange appliqués and special SVT gauges. Room in the rear of the extended cab isn't huge, but it's adequate for shorter trips or for carrying extra gear.

The trickest interior piece is the leather-wrapped steering wheel with the red stripe at twelve-o'clock high. This visual is especially helpful when off-roading because it tells you when your front wheels are pointed straight.

Being that it is an F-150, all of Ford's modern electronic gadgets are available, including SYNC and a full-featured navigation system with Sirius Travel Link. This system provides real-time reporting of local gas prices, sports scores and more, plus the ability to view local weather and instant weather radar maps.

On-Road
At first glance, the SVT Raptor looks to be an alternative to the formidable HUMMER H3T. The HUMMER is a great off-road truck in the traditional sense. At a walking pace, the H3T can conquer almost any obstacle. But on the road, the H3T is largely unpleasant to drive. The steering is slow and the suspension feels rubbery.

The SVT Raptor is nothing like the H3T on the road. Surprisingly, it drives smaller than its huge size would suggest. The engine is Ford's familiar 5.4-liter Triton V-8. Short 4.10 gears put the engine's 310 horsepower to good use, so the Raptor feels ready to strike even in city environs.

A 400-horsepower 6.2-liter V-8 is coming sometime after the New Year. While the standard Triton isn't slow, the Raptor would feel even better with more power. Weighing in at a substantial 5,863 lbs., the Raptor can use every horsepower it can get. The transmission backing either engine is a six-speed automatic with paddle shifters.

In town, the ride is surprisingly comfortable, but it's on the highway and two-lanes where the SVT's engineering magic becomes more evident. Trucks aren’t known for their sport-car like handling—and the Raptor is no sport car— but it can be enthusiastically tossed into corners with satisfying results.

Also important to everyday driving is the noise of the big BFGs. They're as quiet as a standard on-road truck tire, which given their huge size and aggressive tread pattern, comes most unexpectedly.

Our only significant complaint about the Raptor's on-road ride comes with this type of pickup body style. The wide body-side opening (for the front and rear doors) and wheelbase (shorter than the limousine-like crew cabs) can't fully eliminate giggly ride motions. On some road surfaces, they get annoying.

Off-Road
If you've ever driven a car or truck on a gravel road and encountered a washboard surface, your vehicle turns into a virtual paint shaker. If you drive fast enough for long enough, the suspension will literally fail because the shocks or struts overheat. Vibrations transmitted through the suspension to the body may also cause parts to actually fall off

Now, take this experience and mentally map it up by a factor of 100, and you can begin to approximate what it's like driving through the desert at over 80 mph. Nothing can prepare your mind for the physical experience … not even a really good video game.

Ford's demonstration course for the automotive press ran through public land set aside for vehicular recreational use in Southern California's Borrego desert. Our high-speed "track" traversed a 22-mile loop of dry riverbeds and flats with surfaces ranging from loose silt to hard-packed sand.

Beyond absorbing whoopties and all manner of surface elevation changes, the Raptor's suspension proved its mettle several times in big ways. The one that sticks in your author's memory was when he missed a turn on the course. The error, steering correction, and resulting power slide put the tires on a 45° collision course with a substantial ridge created by a recent storm runoff. I braced for the impact and quickly wondered how many times the truck would barrel roll after the tires were knocked off the handsome aluminum rims.

My navigator and I felt the impact. The Raptor couldn't have cared less. The tires and suspension absorbed the shunt with no change in direction or upset to the chassis. The truck seemed to skate over the ridge.

Conclusions
Attempting anything like what we did in the Raptor with a normal four-wheel drive truck would be stupid. Its suspension would beat itself to pieces and major driveline components would spin themselves into tangled masses.

Ford's Special Vehicle Team succeeded in creating a truck that is unique in market. While it may be aimed at desert racers, the Raptor's style and performance will likely lure buyers from other markets, especially where there is snow and/or frozen lakes to run on.


The base SVT Raptor starts at $39,000, just $2500 more than a similarly equipped F-150 SX4 that doesn't have nearly the same off-road capabilities or style. Plus, the Raptor can still tow 6,000 lbs., so none of a regular F-150's practical capacities are compromised.

While not a new-generation Ford Lightning, the 2010 SVT Raptor certainly earned its way into the ranks of the super trucks.

[Leedom]

We Test Drive The 2010 Ford SVT Raptor
Ford's SVT Raptor Is All Business
by Rex Roy | AOL Autos
Posted: Sep, 16 2009


Chevrolet Silverado HDs are made for towing and hauling. HUMMERs are made for off-roading. But what's the purpose of the new 2010 Ford SVT Raptor? .....
The base SVT Raptor starts at $39,000, just $2500 more than a similarly equipped F-150 SX4 that doesn't have nearly the same off-road capabilities or style. Plus, the Raptor can still tow 6,000 lbs., so none of a regular F-150's practical capacities are compromised.

While not a new-generation Ford Lightning, the 2010 SVT Raptor certainly earned its way into the ranks of the super trucks.

This truck is awesome and if I had teh money I would totally buy one. great to see a auto company coming out with something other than the normal "appearance package" that have stickers and some nicer shocks. I am familiar with these types of suspension and can say thay did better than any "lift kit" could have done from yesteryear!!

[BRUTAL64]

This truck is awesome and if I had teh money I would totally buy one. great to see a auto company coming out with something other than the normal "appearance package" that have stickers and some nicer shocks. I am familiar with these types of suspension and can say thay did better than any "lift kit" could have done from yesteryear!!

The more I look into the Raptor the more it seems a GREAT deal.:judge:

[Leedom]

I'd for sure wait for a used one. I think with the 6.2 coming out that the 5.4trucks will be in the 20's within two years.

I think this truck may surprise you. Mid-20s in 2 years , good luck!

[BRUTAL64]

Ok, boys and girls here's what I'm thinking. The Raptor is becoming my first pick for a new vehicle. It has so MANY uses and is really cool.


Yep, Brutal may be going DIRT. (again).:drink:

[SeanPlunk]

Ok, boys and girls here's what I'm thinking. The Raptor is becoming my first pick for a new vehicle. It has so MANY uses and is really cool.


Yep, Brutal may be going DIRTY. (again).:drink:

I fixed your post. now it is right.

[SeanPlunk]

Leedom and I just went to Fairway Ford to check out the black Raptor they have in stock. Awesome truck - it looks great. I would for sure delete the graphics though. They also had 2 Taurus SHO's. Very nice cars, but rather large.

[Leedom]

Leedom and I just went to Fairway Ford to check out the black Raptor they have in stock. Awesome truck - it looks great. I would for sure delete the graphics though. They also had 2 Taurus SHO's. Very nice cars, but rather large.

Bring on the Raptor and a Ecoboost Fusion!!

[BRUTAL64]

I fixed your post. now it is right.

I think dirty every second of every day. Just haven't driven dirt in a while.:rolleyes:

[enkeivette]

So F150 + Plastic Bling = Raptor?

[Vettezuki]

So F150 + Plastic Bling = Raptor?

Not quite.

[Leedom]

So F150 + Plastic Bling = Raptor?

Not even close. The fenders are flared to accomodate for the extra 8" of front track with to help increase travel. Fox internal-bypass shocks. Hill decent. Off-road mode that holds the shifts longer. Auxilary switches. 35" tall BFGs. 3 skid plates. This is not "off-rroad" package. This is a legitiamte Baja truck with a factory warrantee!

[BRUTAL64]

So F150 + Plastic Bling = Raptor?

I take it you DID NOT read all the specs I put here or don't lawers read for themselves.:rolleyes:

[enkeivette]

Not even close. The fenders are flared to accomodate for the extra 8" of front track with to help increase travel. Fox internal-bypass shocks. Hill decent. Off-road mode that holds the shifts longer. Auxilary switches. 35" tall BFGs. 3 skid plates. This is not "off-rroad" package. This is a legitiamte Baja truck with a factory warrantee!

So the motor is in the back? :p

Haha, ok calm down guys I get it.

[BRUTAL64]

So the motor is in the back? :p

Haha, ok calm down guys I get it.

We all knew you would. You are one of the smarter ones.:motorsmile:

[SeanPlunk]

I saw a white one tonight with no graphics :drool2:

Oh, and the 6.2L official #'s are 411hp and 434tq. (http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/raptor-316/648041-6-2l-raptor-debut-411-hp-434-tq.html)

[Chuck]

Id get a super duty for that kind of money. I think its kind of week.:crutches:

[Leedom]

Id get a super duty for that kind of money. I think its kind of week.:crutches:

Are you nuts?! This thing would kick the shit out of a SD or for that matter, ANY truck straight off any dealer lot off-road and a large number of modified trucks.

I wonder if those number are underrated. If they are not I am sure 500HP/550TQ would not be hard to get to.

[SeanPlunk]

Id get a super duty for that kind of money. I think its kind of week.:crutches:

:picard:

[Chuck]

Are you nuts?! This thing would kick the shit out of a SD or for that matter, ANY truck straight off any dealer lot off-road and a large number of modified trucks.

I wonder if those number are underrated. If they are not I am sure 500HP/550TQ would not be hard to get to.

:surrender: I guess. Although I would choose a 2500 HD or a F250 Diesel tows twice as much and has double the payload capabilities. More bang for the buck I would say.

[SeanPlunk]

:surrender: I guess. Although I would choose a 2500 HD or a F250 Diesel tows twice as much and has double the payload capabilities. More bang for the buck I would say.

They really aren't competitors.

[Leedom]

They really aren't competitors.

:iagree: The Raptor is not for towing a huge trailer of hauling a bunch of stuff in the bed. It can do what any full size light duty truck can except is totally kicks ass off-road for not much more than a comparable truck of its size.

[Chuck]

:iagree: The Raptor is not for towing a huge trailer of hauling a bunch of stuff in the bed. It can do what any full size light duty truck can except is totally kicks ass off-road for not much more than a comparable truck of its size.

Okay than I choose the Power Wagon.

[Chuck]

Alright for your raptor lovers I got this video last weekend.

YouTube- Raptor Comp Hill Pismo

[Leedom]

Alright for your raptor lovers I got this video last weekend.

YouTube- Raptor Comp Hill Pismo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYd7rlEp5wI)

Why is that guy driving like a wanker? Lets see some air under that thing!!

[BRUTAL64]

Alright for your raptor lovers I got this video last weekend.

YouTube- Raptor Comp Hill Pismo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYd7rlEp5wI)

Yep, that's not bad.;)

[SeanPlunk]

Alright for your raptor lovers I got this video last weekend.

YouTube- Raptor Comp Hill Pismo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYd7rlEp5wI)

Very cool! I was just reading through a car magazine tonight and the Raptor was the worst performer on the skidpad and for breaking from 70mph this year. It only pulled a .67 on the skidpad and it took 214ft to stop from 70mph :eek:

[BRUTAL64]

Very cool! I was just reading through a car magazine tonight and the Raptor was the worst performer on the skidpad and for breaking from 70mph this year. It only pulled a .67 on the skidpad and it took 214ft to stop from 70mph :eek:

What are you trying to say.......:huh:

[Leedom]

Very cool! I was just reading through a car magazine tonight and the Raptor was the worst performer on the skidpad and for breaking from 70mph this year. It only pulled a .67 on the skidpad and it took 214ft to stop from 70mph :eek:

This truck was not made for the skidpad!:mad:

[Throttle Crazy]

Why is that guy driving like a wanker? Lets see some air under that thing!!

I totally agree!:lame:

[Vettezuki]

Very cool! I was just reading through a car magazine tonight and the Raptor was the worst performer on the skidpad and for breaking from 70mph this year. It only pulled a .67 on the skidpad and it took 214ft to stop from 70mph :eek:

The skidpad is irrelvent for truck with this kind of suspension/purpose, but breaking is relevant for real world driving on the streets.

[Leedom]

...but breaking is relevant for real world driving on the streets.

True but is 214ft really that bad for a full size truck running 35?

[Vettezuki]

True but is 214ft really that bad for a full size truck running 35?

It's not the "for a" it's the jack ass who's tailgaiting me I'm worried about. Out of curiosity, what's a stock F150?

[BRUTAL64]

True but is 214ft really that bad for a full size truck running 35?

It weights over 5400 lbs.:huh:

[Comptizzle74]

you guys hear about the fully caged $100,000 dollar version suspected to come out later down the line

[SeanPlunk]

you guys hear about the fully caged $100,000 dollar version suspected to come out later down the line

I have indeed - pretty badass :bigthumbsup:

[enkeivette]

Why is that guy driving like a wanker? Lets see some air under that thing!!

That just tells me you've never been to Pismo or Glamis. It's hard to tell from the video, but those hills are intense.

I've never seen an F150 V8 4x4 make it up Olds Hill. They don't make enough hp. I'm not even sure that Raptor could make it up.

Imagine hitting woops as fast as a truck with stock suspension can handle and then gunning it at the base of the hill, you speed starts to slow, still WOT, all 4 tires start kicking up sand like crazy, your speed slows, still WOT, your motor bogs, stop, before you dig yourself in and get stuck. Now back up straight because if you try to 3 point it on the hill you might roll over.

Those hills are much steeper than they look.

[enkeivette]

YouTube- The Famous Oldsmobile Hill

YouTube- OLDSMOBILE HILL AT GLAMIS 2007