how much will it cost to max out a stealth look on ur car/ and or get into the 10's

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

so im asking yall to make a list of how much it would cost to A. do everything u can do to ur car and keep it looking stock as possible and B. how much will it cost u to get into the 10's. this includes tune, hardware, etc....

im wondering the cheapest mod cost to power ratio on everyones car. not including the actual cars cost.

-this is both my stealth and 10 sec list together:

turbo back exhaust ...........$400 used
fp red turbo ......................$1700 new
fuel pump .........................$100
1000cc injectors.................$250 used
cams................................$400 used
ebay intercooler.................$100 used
boost controller..................$25 used
tuning software..................FREE
loggin software..................$25
K&N drop in filter................$50
wideband O2 sensor...........$250
stock weight.....................FREE!!! lol

power - 540+hp/tq on e85

grand total = $3300-ish

so whats yours?

[Vettezuki]

Mmm, if NOS counts, my motor would hold a blast or two of 150. A good launch at a real track and it should crack a high 10 okay . . . I think. I'd be deep into the 500s at the wheels. Cost. I dunno, $500-750. :huh: This would be at the upper limits of the LS stock internals and I wouldn't want to do it all the time, but should hold okay and get me into the 10s.

For reference, at Satan's track, a.k.a. California Speedway, my best (and I'm an average drag driver) is 12.645@112 (http://motorgen.com/garage/timeslip.php?SlipID=136). I put 391 to the wheels. This is a tiny bit faster than Sean's Pullied Cobra (:nutkick:), the same configuration runs deep into the 11s at better tracks. This is all kinda guessing.

[94cobra69ss396]

Well with my Chevelle it only took a 150 shot to run a 10.18. I'm hoping to run in the 9's with a 180 shot and my new bottle heater.

For my Cobra ('94 5.0 with a Vortech S-Trim), I've gone 11.69 with a slipping clutch but I think with my new Spec Stage 3 Plus it will go in the 11.50 range. So I'm guessing it would take a 100 shot to get it in the 10's which would be the cheapest way. However, since it's my daily driver I'm happy with 11's.

[BADDASSC6]

Nitrous= $799 for a 200 shot
A cheap set of repo 17's= $200
A pair of 17" DR's= $300

so for a c6 your are in for $1299

Free mods ditch the cats and teh passenger set for weight.

If you want to make it repeatable at in $600 for a z06 clutch and another $700 for installation.

Vettezuki: your 12.6 was on DR's? So far I've runa 12.3 at Cal speedway on Michillene PS2s. Where were you running deep in hte 11s? I got to check it out. I think i have enough MPH to hit 10s.

[Vettezuki]

. . . Vettezuki: your 12.6 was on DR's? So far I've runa 12.3 at Cal speedway on Michillene PS2s. Where were you running deep in hte 11s?

Speculation based on Corvette times at Ringer tracks, like English Town back on the East Coast. Bone stock C5 ZO6s with 405BHP turn in 11s on crap tires (great drivers), Imma figurin' my 455~bhp on DRs has gotta be good for 11s at an equivalent track. :huh: Also, Sean's Cobra, which is almost identically as fast, runs well into the 11s with the identical setup at those tracks.

CSW is a slow track for a few reasons: bad prep (on street legal days, therefore crap 60's), higher altitude, sometimes some sand on the track, it's often hot on track days, rumor has it runs ever so slightly up hill, and I think it might be built on an Indian burial ground . . . okay, I made that last one up.)

I'll tell you this for a fact, I'm 4 tenths faster and 5 mph faster(!) at the 1/8th mile at Irwindale.

I don't have all the conversions memorized, but to crack a high 10 with a typical C5/6 Vette you'd need 125 - 130 mph with a solid sub 2.0 60'.

[enkeivette]

Wait for BGN to jump in here and put us all to shame without resorting to nitrous. :popcorn:

My list:
Steel toe boots from Payless. $30
Waiting outside cornfed's house till he's done with all those mods. $0
Kicking cornfed in the balls, stealing his car and running 10s for free... priceless.

I'm pretty sure my car would do 10s with the right set of tires, if not a $100 pulley and a $300 intercooler would fix that. Hopefully I would only have to upgrade the diff to handle the power, which is anywhere from $1500 -$2500 I believe. Hopefully my Kevlar clutch would handle the power, although I'm already pushing the limits with it. I guess some slicks would be several hundred used so... I should be able to do it for $2k? Maybe 2.5K minimally.

Unless we're talkin one time for the record books, my diff might hold up for one run... might, maybe. Probably not. And oh yeah, don't you have to be an experienced driver to pull off 10s? I've never been down the track so I could do 13s at 130 like that Annihilator 1000 Viper for all I know.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Wait for BGN to jump in here and put us all to shame without resorting to nitrous. :popcorn:

My list:
Steel toe boots from Payless. $30
Waiting outside cornfed's house till he's done with all those mods. $0
Kicking cornfed in the balls, stealing his car and running 10s for free... priceless.

I'm pretty sure my car would do 10s with the right set of tires, if not a $100 pulley and a $300 intercooler would fix that. Hopefully I would only have to upgrade the diff to handle the power, which is anywhere from $1500 -$2500 I believe. Hopefully my Kevlar clutch would handle the power, although I'm already pushing the limits with it. I guess some slicks would be several hundred used so... I should be able to do it for $2k? Maybe 2.5K minimally.

Unless we're talkin one time for the record books, my diff might hold up for one run... might, maybe. Probably not. And oh yeah, don't you have to be an experienced driver to pull off 10s? I've never been down the track so I could do 13s at 130 like that Annihilator 1000 Viper for all I know.




awww not again thats my 3rd evo this month :-(

[SeanPlunk]

Whipple Swap - $5000 ish total
Slicks - $400
Clutch - $700

That should get me in, although I'd probably snap a half shaft eventually.

[94cobra69ss396]

I think i have enough MPH to hit 10s.


Not unless you strip a lot of weight from your car and gear it down. My best in the Chevelle on the engine has been 11.11 at 121. If I regeared it from 3.73 to 4.56 I could probably pull a high 10 on the engine alone but then I'd run out of rpm on N2O.

You turn about the same mph as I do in the Cobra and on slicks my best is 11.69 at 118. That's launching at 6000rpm and also shifting at 6000. Again it would be quicker with 4.56's but with the 3.55 it's nice to drive everyday.

[BADDASSC6]

Not unless you strip a lot of weight from your car and gear it down. My best in the Chevelle on the engine has been 11.11 at 121. If I regeared it from 3.73 to 4.56 I could probably pull a high 10 on the engine alone but then I'd run out of rpm on N2O.

You turn about the same mph as I do in the Cobra and on slicks my best is 11.69 at 118. That's launching at 6000rpm and also shifting at 6000. Again it would be quicker with 4.56's but with the 3.55 it's nice to drive everyday.

Actually, last time that I was at California speedway I broke into th 120s (at ninety some degrees track temp). I think the car as alot more MPH left in it also. I'm running straight up street tires. Not Drag radials. I think If I slap on a set of DR's I will pick up a decent amount of MPH. Right know I'm almost in third before I can go all the way flat out. Also, I have to granny shift the shit out of the car. That alone is worth a couple of tenths. Finally, I've had the car out a total of maybe five times drag racing. With the exception of the first time I took it to Cal speedway the car has improved on E.T. or MPH every time.

Right now it stands 12.3 @120 with a 2.19 60' on 19" Michellene PS2. No NOS No Blower!

[Vettezuki]

Actually, last time that I was at California speedway I broke into th 120s (at ninety some degrees track temp). I think the car as alot more MPH left in it also. I'm running straight up street tires. Not Drag radials. I think If I slap on a set of DR's I will pick up a decent amount of MPH. Right know I'm almost in third before I can go all the way flat out. Also, I have to granny shift the shit out of the car. That alone is worth a couple of tenths. Finally, I've had the car out a total of maybe five times drag racing. With the exception of the first time I took it to Cal speedway the car has improved on E.T. or MPH every time.

Right now it stands 12.3 @120 with a 2.19 60' on 19" Michellene PS2. No NOS No Blower!


DRs won't really make up any MPH. They make all their difference in the 60', that is the time it takes for initial acceleration. My MPH on DRs and Street tires is virtually identical. Your car is possibly a high 10 car on DRs at a great track and a ringer run. But you should be able to pull off mid 11s all day long at a good track on DRs. If you want to see just how different your mph/et can be because of temp and altitude, I'll probably be going to Irwindale a week from this Thursday night.

[BADDASSC6]

In my old blown Mustang GT I consistently ran 3-4 MPH faster on DRs than on street tires (30rwhp less than the vette). You are right with the 60' statement. But there are a lot of cars that are not flat out way past the 60'. Also, any MPH you gain in the 60 you will carry through the traps.

Now your car (though bad ass:thumbs_up:) make a bit less power than mine. Have you ever had much problems hooking up past the 60' maybe the 330'. I'm pedaling the vette until about 65ish mph (not sure where that is distance wise, but the 1/8is at 93mph). Now how much more MPH will the car pick up if I can go flat out at the top of first?

This is one reason I have waited to install the KW Coilovers (springs 10% stiffer than stock). I wanted to get a good run before, because afterwards it will be harder to hook up.

[94cobra69ss396]

Actually, I've run the Cobra once on my radials (275/40/17 at the time) and picked up 2 mph over running my slicks. I also had to take it easy in first and second and then went hard in third. However, my slicks are about an inch and a half taller than the radials and I think the gearing is why. Your Vette most likely has a lot more torque down low than my Cobra does. So you shouldn't have the same issue as me.

I've also ran the Chevelle on a set of 255/60/15 BFG drag radials and they spun past the 1/8. I only ran a 12.?? but the MPH was 119.

Hooking up out of the hole also presents more issue that you haven't had to deal with yet. Will the clutch hold the power? My previous clutch (Center Force Dual Friction) wouldn't. It would hold first but when I grabbed second it would let go. I had to baby the first to second shift.

Will you have wheel hop? My friends GTO had it bad on Nitto drag radials but he changed to M/T ET Street radials and no longer has that issue.

Will the car bog? The same GTO had problems bogging after the tire change because the tires were no longer spinning.

It's not as easy to get a car into the 10's as people seem to think. That same GTO is now running twin turbos and makes 550rwhp. However he went from running 11.80's with a Magnacharger and 500rwhp to running 12.20's with twin turbos. He now has lag coming out of the hole but turns 123 mph. He thought for sure that he would be close to 10's with the turbos.

[Vettezuki]

. . . Now your car (though bad ass:thumbs_up:) make a bit less power than mine. Have you ever had much problems hooking up past the 60' maybe the 330'. I'm pedaling the vette until about 65ish mph (not sure where that is distance wise, but the 1/8is at 93mph). Now how much more MPH will the car pick up if I can go flat out at the top of first?


Even on DRs (mine aren't really broken in yet) I can launch around 2,500 - 3,000, but have to tip in through 2nd and can go flat from 3rd. I have chirped street tires going into 4th at 90+ mph. DOH. Keep in mind my street tires are Nitto NT450s at 255/50x17, not no Gucci PS2s.:smack: Then there's the whole suspension geometry thing, it gets downright complicated. I don't really konw all that much about drag racing, but I do chuckle when people say " oh it's stupid, you just put the gas pedal to the floor."

[Sonic03SVT]

weight reduction on the interior = free. Solid swap = free. Almo did it running a pullied cobra that was externally stock (except for wheels )

YouTube - 10.84 @ 129MPH Almo

So grand total of about 1k plus wheels/tires. What do the cobra guys win? :D

[BADDASSC6]

Thats absolutely amazing! 10s in a pullied cobra???? So why are the rest of hte guys stuck in the thirteens!

[94cobra69ss396]

Thats absolutely amazing! 10s in a pullied cobra???? So why are the rest of hte guys stuck in the thirteens!

Same reason we see Busa's running in the 11's at Fontana.

[Vettezuki]

weight reduction on the interior = free. Solid swap = free. Almo did it running a pullied cobra that was externally stock (except for wheels )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS8gPzIk9uY

So grand total of about 1k plus wheels/tires. What do the cobra guys win? :D

Of course bone stock C6Zs have run high 10s. Cost: $0. :leaving: Sure, great drivers at a great tracks, but it has been done.

[SeanPlunk]

Thats absolutely amazing! 10s in a pullied cobra???? So why are the rest of hte guys stuck in the thirteens!

Hey, I got in the 12's eventually, how dare you :D

[94cobra69ss396]

Sean, what's your best time and what do you have done to your Cobra?

[SeanPlunk]

Sean, what's your best time and what do you have done to your Cobra?

My best time was 12.78 I believe at 113mph. It was about 1000 degrees out though and I forgot ice for the blower :suicide: I have a 2.76 upper, tune, borla exhaust, and an intake. It put down 455RWHP and 455RWTQ when it was iced down. This was also on drag radials. Of course, my best 60' of the day was still only like 2.0. The track wasn't hooking well at all. I think at California Speedway on a nicer day, with more practice, and with a cold blower the car is good for maybe 12.2-12.4@somewhere between 114 and 117mph.

[94cobra69ss396]

Ya, I don't buy the 10's at 129 with only a pulley and stripped interior. With a129mph trap speed he has to be making somewhere near 650-700hp at the flywheel.

Are you going to run your car at the Street Legals in November?

[Vettezuki]

Ya, I don't buy the 10's at 129 with only a pulley and stripped interior. With a129mph trap speed he has to be making somewhere near 650-700hp at the flywheel.

Are you going to run your car at the Street Legals in November?

It depends a lot on other factors like weight, gearing and at that speed, aero, but FWIW, the best trap of a bone stock C6Z (3,150lbs, moderate gearing, 505BHP, pretty good aero) that I know of is 129. Again, great driver, ringer track.

[94cobra69ss396]

Let's change this up a bit since everyone has an opinion on what it will take to get their cars in the 10's. How many of you are running what you thought your car would run before you took it to the track. How about the hp? Does it make as much as you thought it would? I'll start.

For the Chevelle, when I started building the engine I thought it would run in the 11.70-11.80 range. My best time on the engine has been an 11.11. So it's faster than I thought it would be. However, when I was building the engine I predicted it would make around 550hp at the flywheel and I put down 461hp at the wheels.

The Cobra made more hp then I thought. I thought it would make about 400rwhp and it made 433 with the supercharger belt slipping. As for the time it's right where I thought it would be with a best of 11.69.

[BADDASSC6]

Let's change this up a bit since everyone has an opinion on what it will take to get their cars in the 10's. How many of you are running what you thought your car would run before you took it to the track. How about the hp? Does it make as much as you thought it would? I'll start.

For the Chevelle, when I started building the engine I thought it would run in the 11.70-11.80 range. My best time on the engine has been an 11.11. So it's faster than I thought it would be. However, when I was building the engine I predicted it would make around 550hp at the flywheel and I put down 461hp at the wheels.

The Cobra made more hp then I thought. I thought it would make about 400rwhp and it made 433 with the supercharger belt slipping. As for the time it's right where I thought it would be with a best of 11.69.

I'm going to through this out there. My car has run a best of 12.3 @120. Which is slower than i thought. Makes 460 rwhp with 417 rw ft-lbs. I thought the MPH would be faster, but I've only ran the car this summer at Firebird internaitonal raceway and California Speedway. I don't know how much the car will run on a sticky track with temps less than the mid nineties.

You can make the aguement that your car runs faster than what you thought, but you drag race your car regularly. It's also a drag race car. I built my car for road courses.

By the way No way that Cobra was only pullied!

[Vettezuki]

I'm going to through this out there. My car has run a best of 12.3 @120. Which is slower than i thought. Makes 460 rwhp with 417 rw ft-lbs. I thought the MPH would be faster, but I've only ran the car this summer at Firebird internaitonal raceway and California Speedway. I don't know how much the car will run on a sticky track with temps less than the mid nineties.

You can make the aguement that your car runs faster than what you thought, but you drag race your car regularly. It's also a drag race car. I built my car for road courses.

By the way No way that Cobra was only pullied!


Well, if a C6Z, which is what 435RWHP?, runs high 120s (almost 130) with a great driver and ringer track, you should certainly be able to improve on your 120 at a better track. I haven't done a detailed analysis, but off the cuff it seems like purpose built cars run about as fast at CSW on a good day as anywhere else. HOWEVER, high(er) performance street cars and motorcycles run about 0.5 - 1.0+ second slower at CSW. I mean C6Zs are running low 12s, where they run mid 11s everywhere else in the country with very average drivers. Anyway, I guess that wasn't really the question.

I expected my motor to make 400-410 RWHP, it makes 391 (but lots is still on the table with tuning and exhaust). I expected to run low 12s and I'm solidly in the mid/upper 12s. If I did nothing but tack the front half of an Irwindale run on the the back half of a CSW run, I'd be in the low 12s easy. I guess we can't do that thought. :laugh:

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

in my current set up i was hoping for 390-400hp according to my tuning software i made my goal.

and as for the 1/4th i was hoping for an 11.9

but i ran a 12.5 because of a slipping burned stock clutch and some cheap as tires which still churp hard on an awd car :-( and my 60' was 1.9 i know i could cut that down to at least a 1.7 maybe a 1.6 and the eather that day was 100+ degrees

[94cobra69ss396]

You can make the aguement that your car runs faster than what you thought, but you drag race your car regularly. It's also a drag race car. I built my car for road courses.

What does you building your car for road courses have to do with the Chevelle running faster than I thought it would? I've owned the Chevelle since I was 16. When I first started racing it it ran mid 14's. Also, the Cobra isn't set up for drag racing and it ran right where I thought it would.

My point was that just because someone has something done to their car and you do the same thing to your car (assuming they are the same type of cars) doesn't mean yours will run the same as theirs. I've talked with many prople who were racing their cars at the track for the first time and they think their car will run deep in the 11's only to run high 12's or 13's.

[Vettezuki]

in my current set up i was hoping for 390-400hp according to my tuning software i made my goal.

and as for the 1/4th i was hoping for an 11.9

but i ran a 12.5 because of a slipping burned stock clutch and some cheap as tires which still churp hard on an awd car :-( and my 60' was 1.9 i know i could cut that down to at least a 1.7 maybe a 1.6 and the eather that day was 100+ degrees

Is that stock turbo or your new turbo? You were getting a new turbo right?

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Is that stock turbo or your new turbo? You were getting a new turbo right?

ya that run was on the stock turbo set to 27psi but the stock turbo tapers boost from 5k -redline so by the time im at 7k rpm im at 20-19psi which is basicly stock boost

my new turbo should hold what ever psi i have it set too to redline im probably gonna run 32psi

i guy on the evo forums back east made a 9.99 @ 139mph pass with that turbo with a full wieght interior and stock engine excpet for cams and e85 pretty much the same set up i have. and for the next run he gutted hin interior and trunk and made a 9.46@140mph pass......and its a stock frame turbo that used the stock header and downpipe it looks stock so no one but me will know whats up except for me and the guy i just hustled for that green :-)

[94cobra69ss396]

i guy on the evo forums back east made a 9.99 @ 139mph pass with that turbo with a full wieght interior and stock engine excpet for cams and e85 pretty much the same set up i have. and for the next run he gutted hin interior and trunk and made a 9.46@140mph pass......and its a stock frame turbo that used the stock header and downpipe it looks stock so no one but me will know whats up except for me and the guy i just hustled for that green :-)

This emphasizes my point! So you think that you are going to pick up 2 seconds because you changed turbos to the same one he has?

[Vettezuki]

. it looks stock so no one but me will know whats up except for me and the guy i just hustled for that green :-)

You gonna hustle that Cobra guy out in Fontana? That's a g waiting I guess. Just be on a deserted road so you only kill yourselves if the shiznit turns stinky.

[Vettezuki]

This emphasizes my point! So you think that you are going to pick up 2 seconds because you changed turbos to the same one he has?

I was gonn say. Corn Fed, you've run at CSW, what are you calling for November? I'm assuming you'll be out then. A bunch of us will be there. I'm going to try to crack a 12.5x@112~ So a tenth with driving technique. :huh:

[94cobra69ss396]

I was gonn say. Corn Fed, you've run at CSW, what are you calling for November? I'm assuming you'll be out then. A bunch of us will be there. I'm going to try to crack a 12.5x@112~ So a tenth with driving technique. :huh:

I'm going too. I'll try and get in the 9's in the Chevelle and if I can take my Cobra I'll shoot for an 11.5.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

This emphasizes my point! So you think that you are going to pick up 2 seconds because you changed turbos to the same one he has?

yup if u know the flow rate of these turbos and how much there pushing out u would be amazed at how much air can be shoved evo engines.

the stock turbo has a 42lb intake wheel which can be compared somewhere around a garret GT26r turbo very weak.

while the turbo i have my eye set on is a stock frame intake and exhaust housing thats been ported to hell and has a 59-60lb wheel which is the exact same one that comes on the garret GT30R turbo which if u know ur turbo's thats a pretty big turbo which also wont taper boost at higher rpms so i hold my HP in a linier power curve like u all motor guys or at least as straight as a turbo will let u get.

the great catch to all this is because of the smaller exhaust housing wheel compared to a full on real GT30r turbo is that my turbo will spool 400rpm later then stock at 3.8k rpm rather then a real GT30r turbo which would reach full spool at 4.4rpm. also when i where to shift the stock frame turbo would respool alot quicker then a full sized 30r.

anywho as for me cutting 2 seconds off my previous time with a new clutch and turbo ya i thinks thats more then possible for me to pull of a 10.5 and my mph would be somewhere in the 130's

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

I was gonn say. Corn Fed, you've run at CSW, what are you calling for November? I'm assuming you'll be out then. A bunch of us will be there. I'm going to try to crack a 12.5x@112~ So a tenth with driving technique. :huh:

that should be easy to pull off, november is usually a great time to run at cali, because dec-march u get stupid ass winds or rain, and then in april its back to 90+ degree weather

ill try and make it out my turbo is on back order for almost 2 months so im just waiting :-(

oh ya and theres plenty of safe places around here to run. im not one of those idiots that would run in a loaded streed or neighborhood thats just dumb and end up raising insurence rates :-(

[Vettezuki]

. . .

anywho as for me cutting 2 seconds off my previous time with a new clutch and turbo ya i thinks thats more then possible for me to pull of a 10.5 and my mph would be somewhere in the 130's

You called it. Sounds like a good heads up race with 94cobra69ss396's Chevelle on motor only. Just good clean fun.

[94cobra69ss396]

yup if u know the flow rate of these turbos and how much there pushing out u would be amazed at how much air can be shoved evo engines.

the stock turbo has a 42lb intake wheel which can be compared somewhere around a garret GT26r turbo very weak.

while the turbo i have my eye set on is a stock frame intake and exhaust housing thats been ported to hell and has a 59-60lb wheel which is the exact same one that comes on the garret GT30R turbo which if u know ur turbo's thats a pretty big turbo which also wont taper boost at higher rpms so i hold my HP in a linier power curve like u all motor guys or at least as straight as a turbo will let u get.

the great catch to all this is because of the smaller exhaust housing wheel compared to a full on real GT30r turbo is that my turbo will spool 400rpm later then stock at 3.8k rpm rather then a real GT30r turbo which would reach full spool at 4.4rpm. also when i where to shift the stock frame turbo would respool alot quicker then a full sized 30r.

anywho as for me cutting 2 seconds off my previous time with a new clutch and turbo ya i thinks thats more then possible for me to pull of a 10.5 and my mph would be somewhere in the 130's

I don't know anything about turbos. So would a HTA 35R Turbo be larger than the one you are putting on your car?

[94cobra69ss396]

You called it. Sounds like a good heads up race with 94cobra69ss396's Chevelle on motor only. Just good clean fun.

I only run low 11's without N2O. With a 150 shot I only trap 128-130!

[Vettezuki]

I only run low 11's without N2O. With a 150 shot I only trap 128-130!

Sorry, shouldda checked first. :judge: Then 150 shot vs. his new fangled turbo config. :bigthumbsup:

Sean and I run within a couple tenths, we should do some heads up too.

Of course this depends on getting in the same group. No big deal, just trying to set up some friendly "grudge" matches. :pot_stir:

[BADDASSC6]

Oooh I'm in!

[94cobra69ss396]

Oooh I'm in!

If I take the Cobra you want to race?

Also, you don't have to be in the same run group to grudge race. Let's say I'm in group 2 and Carlos is in 3 we would both go in 2 but he won't be able to run in 3 on that call. He has to wait until the next one if he doesn't want to race me again.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

I don't know anything about turbos. So would a HTA 35R Turbo be larger than the one you are putting on your car?


lol u would say HTA.

actually the company that makes the HTA converted garret turbo's for evo's makes the turbo im getting. and yes the HTA 35r is pretty damn big compared to the one im getting. the turbo im getting comes with an HTA 30r intake wheel.

the hta 30r spools at 4000rpm mainly due to bigger hotside
the FP red *mine* spools at 3.8k rpm and hits like a 30r but doesnt get the full top end like a 30 are b/c its restricted by the stock evo turbo housing size. which is what makes this a middle of the road turbo its pretty much taking the stealth look to the limit in terms of power.

and a HTA 35r will spool at about 4.8 - 5k rpm but when it hits its gonna hit u like a ton of bricks. but this turbo is so big and laggyin evo land that no one will run it unless that have a 2.3 or bigger stroked motor thats completely built and will let them rev up to 9k+ rpm no sense in running a laggy turbo unless u can make up for it by reving to the sky


so what made u say HTA? im guess u have a friend with an evo? lol

[94cobra69ss396]

The reason I asked is that I know of a tuner who is running the HTA 35R on his EVO. I listed his specs below. As you can see his best time is an 11.45 at 124 at 30psi. So what you are saying is that with a smaller turbo at 32psi you should be able to run 1 to 1.5 seconds quicker and 6mph faster at CSW then he does at a good track in the mid West? Also remember, he is a professional tuner.

05 EVO, 4G63 2.0L
Engine Mods: ARP head bolts, HKS 280 cams, K&N air filter
Engine Management: Stock ECU with ECUFlash
Power Adder: HTA 35R Turbo @ 30psi
Transmission: Stock AWD 5-Speed
Drivetrain Mods: Exedy Twin Disc
Tires: BFG Drag Radials
Quickest 1/8 th or 1/4 mile time: 1.69 60' 11.45 @ 124 @ 30psi
Horsepower and Torque: 500awhp

[Vettezuki]

Corn Fed, how much pop you get from the tuning that's made possible by the E85 conversion.

[Sonic03SVT]

I figured someone wouldnt buy that cobra's runs. It seems fast, but keep in mind hes got a solid rear swap so he can dump the clutch, hes on slicks, his car weighs something in the neighborhood of 3250, and he was running real low 11s without a pulley at all. (something like 11.20s) that was with intake/tb/exhaust, but nonetheless. Ill dig up some more runs for you guys. Hes the reason were al pissed about the 3700 pound cobra, see what itd do at 3300? :bang:

[BADDASSC6]

What does you building your car for road courses have to do with the Chevelle running faster than I thought it would? I've owned the Chevelle since I was 16. When I first started racing it it ran mid 14's. Also, the Cobra isn't set up for drag racing and it ran right where I thought it would.

My point was that just because someone has something done to their car and you do the same thing to your car (assuming they are the same type of cars) doesn't mean yours will run the same as theirs. I've talked with many prople who were racing their cars at the track for the first time and they think their car will run deep in the 11's only to run high 12's or 13's.

I mean the more you practice and run a car the quicker you go. You have to set the car up for what you are going to use it for. You have to get accustomed to how many revs it can handle of the line, how much you need to slip the clutch, which torque converter it likes best, how much spray it can handle of the line, etc....

I've basicly have done the same thing with my car except it's more like how much will air pressure in the tires increase during the first few laps, what brake pads provide me the best initial bite without being too diffucult to modulate, can I stay in this corner in second and still be smooth.

How many runs did it take in your cobra to hit that 11.69 @118 with 6000rpm Launch:eek:? What driveline suspension mods do you have in order for it to survive that? Still the stock T-5? Got some stiffer drag arms holding the rear end in place? Yeah your cars are quick for what's under the hood, but you (being the most expierenced drag racer that normally pots here) should know that there is alot more to it than just horspower.

I'm not trying to say that just because some guys ran tens in a Z I can, but:
1) I straight walk Z's (even some with light mods).
2) 120 on a Super hot day on like the fourth or fifth time out on 19" michellenes, to me says the car has 3-5 more MPH on a cooler day and drag radials.
3) There have been vettes with alot less power than mine in the tens.

Now the biggest barriers for me breaking into the tens:
1) Road racing suspension (the coilover are going in before October 8th for TT at buttonwillow)
2) Except the Z all the N/A stock displacement Vettes I've seen in the tens have been automatics with high stall converters and gears (Mine is a stick and it will not be getting gears anytime soon).
3) Me, I like going srag racing primarily to see cars and meet people. I don't take it seriously enough to go to every test and tun and get everything dialed in/ learn how to drive.

[BADDASSC6]

If I take the Cobra you want to race?

Also, you don't have to be in the same run group to grudge race. Let's say I'm in group 2 and Carlos is in 3 we would both go in 2 but he won't be able to run in 3 on that call. He has to wait until the next one if he doesn't want to race me again.

I'm down, F@&)$ it! Are you going to run slicks or drag radials? I can work to your schedule, but I don't have any DR's yet. I think it would be close street tire to street tire, but I've never ran my vette on DR's. PM me! Lets play:bigthumbsup:

[BADDASSC6]

I'm not a big dollar baller, but i'll get the first round regardless of the outcome. PM me though so we can work out the schedule.

[BADDASSC6]

By the way i'm officially drunk posting again!

[94cobra69ss396]

I mean the more you practice and run a car the quicker you go. You have to set the car up for what you are going to use it for. You have to get accustomed to how many revs it can handle of the line, how much you need to slip the clutch, which torque converter it likes best, how much spray it can handle of the line, etc...

I've change the converter in the Chevelle and it didn't change my time. My old converter was tight and only brake stalled to 2200. The new on brake stalls to 3000.

How many runs did it take in your cobra to hit that 11.69 @118 with 6000rpm Launch:eek:? What driveline suspension mods do you have in order for it to survive that? Still the stock T-5? Got some stiffer drag arms holding the rear end in place? Yeah your cars are quick for what's under the hood, but you (being the most expierenced drag racer that normally pots here) should know that there is alot more to it than just horspower.

First, I don't race that often. Especially in the Cobra. I only go to the Street Legal Drags at CSW and that's it now that LACR is closed. Second, the Cobra doesn't have anything done to the suspension besides Progress sport lowering springs. The rest is all stock as it came from Ford.

As for the trans and rearend, these have been upgraded. The rear has Superior axles and 3.55 gears and the trans has been upgraded to a T56 after breaking the T5 twice (not while drag racing).

When I asked about us racing I was referring to the Street Legal Drags at CSW in November. If I can bring the Cobra I will be running my M/T ET Streets.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

The reason I asked is that I know of a tuner who is running the HTA 35R on his EVO. I listed his specs below. As you can see his best time is an 11.45 at 124 at 30psi. So what you are saying is that with a smaller turbo at 32psi you should be able to run 1 to 1.5 seconds quicker and 6mph faster at CSW then he does at a good track in the mid West? Also remember, he is a professional tuner.

05 EVO, 4G63 2.0L
Engine Mods: ARP head bolts, HKS 280 cams, K&N air filter
Engine Management: Stock ECU with ECUFlash
Power Adder: HTA 35R Turbo @ 30psi
Transmission: Stock AWD 5-Speed
Drivetrain Mods: Exedy Twin Disc
Tires: BFG Drag Radials
Quickest 1/8 th or 1/4 mile time: 1.69 60' 11.45 @ 124 @ 30psi
Horsepower and Torque: 500awhp



oh man no crap he's gonna run really slow he is on the 2.0 block with the massive hta 35r. and look he's only at 500hp im guessing on pump gas or a low race gas with 30psi. 500hp is 30r or fp red *my turbo* territory and thats on the low side of race gas numbers.

i can tell u his engine isnt built b/c he wont go above 30psi or 500hp. thats where the stock engine starts to crap out at especially with a fat ol turbo like that.

im in no way knocking this tuner im guessing if he went with the 35r he is gonna eventually build his motor to run it. those turbos people easily se high 600's to mid 700hp on a built race gas motor/tune he is being really conservitive with that 500hp no wonder he only runs 11's. 11's could be reached on the stock turbo and have been reached on the stock turbo only because ur gonna spool really quick off the line and after each shift, its kind of a give and take.

also once ecu flash came out everyone becasme a tuneer in the evo world hell i did its simple as shit. but some people dont know all the tricks of the software.

here are the top evo tuners in socal.
alfred - tuning technologies
scot grey - road race engineering
reese - reese tuning
????- GST motorsports *up in nor cal*


b-list tuner shops for evo's * the ones i would never trust*
??? - harman automotive
charlie - mfq
???? - works *up north*
naji - self tuner
???? - GT motorsports *got these people suck*
???? - XS engineering

those are pretty much the big shops for evo's in cali. im not saying ur friend cant tune i just wanna see some of his work first before i make that call.

becasue like i said before im sure he is on a stock block b/c u gotta be an idiot not to take the 35r over 500hp and 30psi thats conservative as hell...!!!

[94cobra69ss396]

I don't know him, only his car from his forum www.racevideoforums.com. He is Chris Mellon of Mellon Tuning.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

I don't know him, only his car from his forum www.racevideoforums.com. He is Chris Mellon of Mellon Tuning.

oh shot ya i totally forgot to ass chris!!! oh ya he's cool i just never really hear much from him on socalevo but he is a cool guy and helps alot with do it urself tuning on evolutionm. hell i proobablly learned a little from this guy when i was learning how to tune :-)

but ya like i said im sure he's on the stock block with that hp and that psi he is being safe i know it. when he builds his motor though he can easily see 700+hp and make 9 sec passes

and i know he knows about the FP red turbo making 9's thats like the biggest news on evolutionm right now.

[94cobra69ss396]

Do you think you'll have your new turbo in by the November races? If so, we need to race.:thumbs_up:

[BADDASSC6]

Even if you don't race that often, you've been running it for "four Seasons". But that's o.k.

Anyways, I'm down for a run or two at CSW in November. What day is it? I will try to borrow my buddies DRs. It won't be mush of a race without them.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Do you think you'll have your new turbo in by the November races? If so, we need to race.:thumbs_up:

idk like i said the back order is 1 1/2 - 2 months. and then i still need to get the clutch done lol.

also whats done to ur chevelle?

but for sure when im done im down to race u man i think it will be a good run lol.


here is an e85 dynod fp red evo

YouTube - AWD Motorsports EVO IX w/ FP Red on E-85!! 523whp

and here is one of the 9 sec runs :-) enjoy!!!

YouTube - OKIX/9sec9 Evo IX makes 9 sec pass on FP-RED

[94cobra69ss396]

Standard bore Chevy 454
12.25:1 compression
Heads: Edelbrock Performer RPMs 60559 box stock
Comp Cams Solid Roller 11-692-8
.622 lift I/E
246 at .050 I/E
110 Lobe Center
Victor Jr Intake box stock
Holley 850 built by The Carb Shop (flows 950 cfm)
Hooker Competition Headers 3" exhaust with Flowmasters
MSD ignition (distributor, 6AL, Coil, timing retard)
NOS Cheater system
TCI TH400 with transbrake
B&M Holeshot 3000 converter
3.73 gears with Eaton limit slip.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Standard bore Chevy 454
12.25:1 compression
Heads: Edelbrock Performer RPMs 60559 box stock
Comp Cams Solid Roller 11-692-8
.622 lift I/E
246 at .050 I/E
110 Lobe Center
Victor Jr Intake box stock
Holley 850 built by The Carb Shop (flows 950 cfm)
Hooker Competition Headers 3" exhaust with Flowmasters
MSD ignition (distributor, 6AL, Coil, timing retard)
NOS Cheater system
TCI TH400 with transbrake
B&M Holeshot 3000 converter
3.73 gears with Eaton limit slip.

lol i had to get my bow tie translator to tell me what all that ment!!!

[94cobra69ss396]

lol i had to get my bow tie translator to tell me what all that ment!!!:laugh:

I felt the same way when you started talking turbos. It's just a mild bolt together 454 with off the shelf parts. I haven't done any porting yet to the heads or intake and the cam is the smallest solid roller in Comp's Magnum series. In fact I didn't even change the valve springs in the head which are probably a little on the light side for a solid roller.

[SeanPlunk]

:laugh:

I felt the same way when you started talking turbos. It's just a mild bolt together 454 with off the shelf parts. I haven't done any porting yet to the heads or intake and the cam is the smallest solid roller in Comp's Magnum series. In fact I didn't even change the valve springs in the head which are probably a little on the light side for a solid roller.

It was good to see you and Eric last night. Your girls are very cool by the way, I knew you were a great father when they told me that preferred Star Wars to Hanna Montana :D

[94cobra69ss396]

It was good to see you and Eric last night. Your girls are very cool by the way, I knew you were a great father when they told me that preferred Star Wars to Hanna Montana :D

Thanks. For further father of the year info, Kylie who is the older one told me a few days ago that she wants my Cobra when she can drive.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Thanks. For further father of the year info, Kylie who is the older one told me a few days ago that she wants my Cobra when she can drive.

HOLLY FKIN SHIT!!!!!! i found a guy on the evo forums that didnt wanna install the turbo i wanted so he is gonan sell it to me tomarrow :-D !!!!! oh dear shit im about to have a heart attack and jump out my window i dont have to wait the 2 months for it WOOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!

im supposed to meet him tomarrow morning. wish me luck and hope he doesnt sell it to this shop that is interested in buying it from him for there shop car we are offering the same price but the shop is in san diego and the guy lives in river side and i live in rancho :D and he doesnt feel like making the drive!!!!!!

[94cobra69ss396]

HOLLY FKIN SHIT!!!!!! i found a guy on the evo forums that didnt wanna install the turbo i wanted so he is gonan sell it to me tomarrow :-D !!!!! oh dear shit im about to have a heart attack and jump out my window i dont have to wait the 2 months for it WOOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!

im supposed to meet him tomarrow morning. wish me luck and hope he doesnt sell it to this shop that is interested in buying it from him for there shop car we are offering the same price but the shop is in san diego and the guy lives in river side and i live in rancho :D and he doesnt feel like making the drive!!!!!!

Good luck getting it, hope you do. If you are able to pick it up tonight are you going to be able to install it before the races in November?

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Good luck getting it, hope you do. If you are able to pick it up tonight are you going to be able to install it before the races in November?

oh hell ya its the clutch im worried about next before i race.

i have one turbo on ebay for sale now at 1100 and imma sell my stock one for around the same price which will easily pay for the clutch and install and i just gotta tune my own car. it looks like november is becoming a major reality im so excited.........all you guys know that happy ass shit eating grin feeling you get when you know ur about to get a bad ass new part for your car!!! ya well i got it big time :bigthumbsup: hell i couldnt even sleep because im so anticipating this i went to bed at 2am an woke up at 4am and kept staring at the clock!!!! lol

the guy said he wants to meet up with me by noon today.

[94cobra69ss396]

the guy said he wants to meet up with me by noon today.

So, it's 2:30pm. Did you get the turbo? :huh:

[Vettezuki]

So, it's 2:30pm. Did you get the turbo? :huh:

My guess is he got really excited, stayed up all night and fell asleep around 10:00am. :sm_up_there:

[94cobra69ss396]

My guess is he got really excited, stayed up all night and fell asleep around 10:00am. :sm_up_there:

And now the seller is on his way to San Deigo to sell it to that shop because he didn't hear back from him.

[Vettezuki]

And now the seller is on his way to San Deigo to sell it to that shop because he didn't hear back from him.

Sounds about right. Maybe with an additional "you guys are so lucky I didn't get my new turbo." :laugh:

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Sounds about right. Maybe with an additional "you guys are so lucky I didn't get my new turbo." :laugh:

lol now now children im not one to tell fairy tales!!! when i say my shit is 400+hp i mean it and when daddy says he's getting a shiney new toy daddy means it!!!

i love my new stock as fuck l ooking turbo that it a beast can u tell the difference lol?

both a stock turbo and the monster fp red
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/cky_bam_marg/100_0197.jpg

up close stock evo 9 turbo
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/cky_bam_marg/100_0203.jpg

now my precious :-D!!!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/cky_bam_marg/100_0198.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/cky_bam_marg/100_0202.jpg

now all i need is a twin plate can take all the child abuse u can throw at it launch at redline 1700 dollar clutch and im too straight :D

soon too be taking bets boys dig deep and dont tell the wives!!!!!

[Vettezuki]

. . .

soon too be taking bets boys dig deep and dont tell the wives!!!!!

Can an Evo keep going forward after snapping half shafts?

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Can an Evo keep going forward after snapping half shafts?

ive never seen an evo ever ever ever break its half shalfs sorry sir its not a honda!!!! lol u cute domestic boys underestimate the evo like most people underestimate the LS engines

damn i just got mad cocky i love it :smack:

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Can an Evo keep going forward after snapping half shafts?

oh and to answer ur question im sure yes

on my 04 evo the t-case went out b/c the damn fkers at this lame shop "forgot" to put oil in there and after it went out it turned into a front whell drive car so i dont see y the opposite wouldnt happen if the half shafts broke lol

[Vettezuki]

ive never seen an evo ever ever ever break its half shalfs sorry sir its not a honda!!!! lol u cute domestic boys underestimate the evo like most people underestimate the LS engines

damn i just got mad cocky i love it :smack:

Well, you get it dialed in with a good clutch and some sticky rubber, we'll be expecting some seriously wicked runs in November. :thumbs_up:

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Well, you get it dialed in with a good clutch and some sticky rubber, we'll be expecting some seriously wicked runs in November. :thumbs_up:

lol ok man for sure damn how money flys :suicide:

[94cobra69ss396]

Can an Evo keep going forward after snapping half shafts?

I've seen a lot of STI's break the T-case but not EVO's. One time when I was at LACR three STI's broke their T-cases with in 30 minutes of each other.

[Vettezuki]

lol ok man for sure damn how money flys :suicide:

Your money doesn't cost me a thing. :laugh:

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

I've seen a lot of STI's break the T-case but not EVO's. One time when I was at LACR three STI's broke their T-cases with in 30 minutes of each other.

yup the sti trannys in the US suck ass most of them go to the j-spec trannys.

really both cars where watered down when they came to the US but i think the evo got watered down in the right places while the sti well i think they just went cheap to gain more profet lord knows y they just didnt stick to the 2.0 world spec sti engines and trannys there so much better.

[BADDASSC6]

ive never seen an evo ever ever ever break its half shalfs sorry sir its not a honda!!!! lol u cute domestic boys underestimate the evo like most people underestimate the LS engines

damn i just got mad cocky i love it :smack:

I concur! I've never seen a n EVo break a half shaft. Transfer cases, trannies, motors, wiped clutches, and pretty much everything else I've seen, but no half shafts.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

I concur! I've never seen a n EVo break a half shaft. Transfer cases, trannies, motors, wiped clutches, and pretty much everything else I've seen, but no half shafts.

soo thank you my good sir lol

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

i got my baby installed about 2 hours ago and oh my god this thing kicks ass.

and the best part i still look stock :-)

tell me if my engine bay looks suspicious bwahahahah

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/cky_bam_marg/100_0207.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/cky_bam_marg/100_0208.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/cky_bam_marg/100_0210.jpg

i even keep the back on the down low lol

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/cky_bam_marg/100_0212.jpg

[Vettezuki]

. . .

tell me if my engine bay looks suspicious bwahahahah

. . .

Mmm, where are the other four cyclinders? :huh: :smack:

[94cobra69ss396]

Mmm, where are the other four cyclinders? :huh: :smack:

And the distributor?

[94cobra69ss396]

i got my baby installed about 2 hours ago and oh my god this thing kicks ass.

and the best part i still look stock :-)

tell me if my engine bay looks suspicious bwahahahah

Did you already do the tuning? How much boost are you making? How much did you make with the stock turbo? How's the lag compared to the stock turbo?

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Did you already do the tuning? How much boost are you making? How much did you make with the stock turbo? How's the lag compared to the stock turbo?

naw i havent tuned it yet i was too tired last night hell i just woke up 2 minutes ago and so damn sore :-(

right now im boosting 25psi and i can easily tell it hits way harder then my stock turbo did at 29psi.
and this turbo help that boost all the way to red line which means i haev top end now lol while my stock one tappered off and by redline id be at 19-20psi

and when it starts to spool up it sounds like a deisel truck gunning it i love it lol.

and as far as the lag its barely noticable.

stock turbo started to spool at 2800rpm and hit full spool at 3200rpm

this turbo starts to spool at 3200rpm and hits full spool at 3800prm
it has a fairly quick spool up time compared to the turbo it stole its intake wheel from the garret gt30r which starts spool at 3000prm and hits full spool by 4200prm

so far i havent found a bad thing on this turbo its damn amazing.



and to vettezuki:

i trades in my other 4 cylinders for a transfercas and some handling :laugh:

the other 4 cylinders where just adding weight to my car. i love my 122 mini block :p

[Vettezuki]

. . .

i trades in my other 4 cylinders for a transfercas and some handling :laugh:
. . .

Some need all the help they can get . . . others use "talent". Oh snap.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Some need all the help they can get . . . others use "talent". Oh snap.

lol hey set up the motorgen track day at csw infield road course or willow springs im down to show you some talent :bigthumbsup:

remember straight lines are for fast cars, corners are for fast drivers :p

[Vettezuki]

lol hey set up the motorgen track day at csw infield road course or willow springs im down to show you some talent :bigthumbsup:

remember straight lines are for fast cars, corners are for fast drivers :p

When we get big enough, we'd like to organize multi-event track days at CSW, where people can freely go between AutoX and the Strip. As for straight line speed, yeah doesn't take much to stand on it from a roll, but to ring it out for all it's worth at the strip definitely requires some skill, especially in a powerful RWD car.

Anyway, if you're Evo is half of what you describe it's really in a different class than my Vette. I'm just under 400WHP in a chassis that has an LSD and that's it. Which is a hoot actually! BAADASSC6 will be at Willow Springs the week after the November street legals. (I think that's when.) I think it's an open day. You'll get your chance to compare your times at the strip and course against a wicked C6. That could be an interesting overall comparison.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

When we get big enough, we'd like to organize multi-event track days at CSW, where people can freely go between AutoX and the Strip. As for straight line speed, yeah doesn't take much to stand on it from a roll, but to ring it out for all it's worth at the strip definitely requires some skill, especially in a powerful RWD car.

Anyway, if you're Evo is half of what you describe it's really in a different class than my Vette. I'm just under 400WHP in a chassis that has an LSD and that's it. Which is a hoot actually! BAADASSC6 will be at Willow Springs the week after the November street legals. (I think that's when.) I think it's an open day. You'll get your chance to compare your times at the strip and course against a wicked C6. That could be an interesting overall comparison.

lol for sure like ive said before im down for anything i just need my clutch and some decent rubber.

[Vettezuki]

lol for sure like ive said before im down for anything i just need my clutch and some decent rubber.

Get'r done. No excuses. I expect to see complete Evo awesomeness. I also expect a ride at some point. I also promise to resist the temptation to underwrite BGN8711's mods just so he can beat you in a grandmamobile.

[Vettezuki]

BTW, what does a fully dressed Evo engine weigh, including turbos etc.?

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

BTW, what does a fully dressed Evo engine weigh, including turbos etc.?

i wanna know his mods :beer:

oh ya and as for the engine, damn i forgot the weight and i remember it said it on the box when i ordered me new one :confused:

the head is around 90 with all the crap in it cams etc......
the full turbo assembly from header to o2 housing is on the high side of 60lbs pretty much 70 i know this because i had to ship a few lol

intake mani is 20lbs with throttle body

and as for the block it barely heavier then what i can carry with pistons crank and everything in it. and i carry 150lb packages at work alot so i know its for sure heavier then that. and its iron. id say around 200 give or take.

so my guestimate weight comes out to 380lbs

and i know the car as a whole is 3200+lbs

i couldnt find the real weight online too quicky so i just gave up lol but if i come accross it ill let you know.

[BADDASSC6]

i wanna know his mods :beer:

oh ya and as for the engine, damn i forgot the weight and i remember it said it on the box when i ordered me new one :confused:

the head is around 90 with all the crap in it cams etc......
the full turbo assembly from header to o2 housing is on the high side of 60lbs pretty much 70 i know this because i had to ship a few lol

intake mani is 20lbs with throttle body

and as for the block it barely heavier then what i can carry with pistons crank and everything in it. and i carry 150lb packages at work alot so i know its for sure heavier then that. and its iron. id say around 200 give or take.

so my guestimate weight comes out to 380lbs

and i know the car as a whole is 3200+lbs

i couldnt find the real weight online too quicky so i just gave up lol but if i come accross it ill let you know.:smack::smack::smack:

I have a hundred dollars that says Evos weigh at least 3350-3500lbs! Lets take a trip to a scale.;)

I will be at buttonwillow on the weekend of October 12th if you want to bust some laps out. Unfortunately having fewer cylinders, turbos, and a transfer case hasn't helped out any of hte other EVOs, STIs, Porsches I've run into:thumbs_up:.

[94cobra69ss396]

I will be at buttonwillow on the weekend of October 12th if you want to bust some laps out. Unfortunately having fewer cylinders, turbos, and a transfer case hasn't helped out any of hte other EVOs, STIs, Porsches I've run into:thumbs_up:.

How much does it cost you to run at Buttonwillow?

[SeanPlunk]

Curb Weight Exo VIII - 1320 kg (2910 lb)–1410 kg (3109 lb)
Curb Weight Evo IX - Curb weight 1310 kg (2888 lb)–1400 kg (3086 lb)

I bet they're both heavier though....

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Curb Weight Exo VIII - 1320 kg (2910 lb)–1410 kg (3109 lb)
Curb Weight Evo IX - Curb weight 1310 kg (2888 lb)–1400 kg (3086 lb)

I bet they're both heavier though....

oh ya there for sure heavier like the 3200lb's i threw out there is probably closer to the evo RS base stripped down model weight mine is most likely in the 33XX area and if you see evo's with a sun roof *like my old one :-(* its probably in the 3400+lbs area and then add the driver weight. then again the evo was never ment to be some stripped down top end light weight areodynamic racer. its a rigid brick that was ment to take some off road abuse from 1st-3rd gear

like no joke though the evo could have been sooooo much heavier if you ever feel the body panels and everything else in the car you can tell they tried there best to use the lightest materials they could and the car still ended up 3000+lbs. if mitsu would have used generic cheap materials like on a civic the evo would be alot closer to 4000+lbs lol


as for the track event....cant make it so far i onlt have a grand and thats going to clutch land. and soon i should come up on 2 more spare g's to pary for the rest of it and get some rubber and what evers left over might be able to be used on a track event lol.

[enkeivette]

Yeah lets take a trip to a scale, I'd really like to find out how much my full framed iron block Vette weighs. I'll bet it's less than the Evo! :D I had no idea they were that heavy btw, I guess with the AWD it's not that bad though.

[BRUTAL64]

Yeah lets take a trip to a scale, I'd really like to find out how much my full framed iron block Vette weighs. I'll bet it's less than the Evo! :D I had no idea they were that heavy btw, I guess with the AWD it's not that bad though.


My C2 -with all the loose junk out - is just under 3,000 lbs. :nutkick:

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Yeah lets take a trip to a scale, I'd really like to find out how much my full framed iron block Vette weighs. I'll bet it's less than the Evo! :D I had no idea they were that heavy btw, I guess with the AWD it's not that bad though.

lol really id put money on it if all you guys where to drive your car, then an sti, then an evo.

that the evo would be the one car that doesnt feel like you driving a 3200+lb 4 door car. and that you would say the driving and response feels like a fast ass go-kart on rails.

i had a stripped down 95 and 99 eclipse turbo awd models maybe weighing 2600lbs if that with suspension and body braces everywhere and they felt like cruise liners compared to a stock evo suspension and steering.

[Vettezuki]

lol really id put money on it if all you guys where to drive your car, then an sti, then an evo.

that the evo would be the one car that doesnt feel like you driving a 3200+lb 4 door car. and that you would say the driving and response feels like a fast ass go-kart on rails.

i had a stripped down 95 and 99 eclipse turbo awd models maybe weighing 2600lbs if that with suspension and body braces everywhere and they felt like cruise liners compared to a stock evo suspension and steering.

Sure. When can I drive yours?

[enkeivette]

lol really id put money on it if all you guys where to drive your car, then an sti, then an evo.

that the evo would be the one car that doesnt feel like you driving a 3200+lb 4 door car. and that you would say the driving and response feels like a fast ass go-kart on rails.

i had a stripped down 95 and 99 eclipse turbo awd models maybe weighing 2600lbs if that with suspension and body braces everywhere and they felt like cruise liners compared to a stock evo suspension and steering.

Stock Evos are amazing. A little too much body roll, and a little too much understeer, but that's easily fixed. You can't beat a good AWD system on a road course.

And no offense but my car has way less body roll and even more cornering grip than a stock evo. Not that this is a fair comparison. But back to what I was saying, I'd be willing to bet that mine is under 3200lbs.

[enkeivette]

Let me add one thing to that, the great thing about an Evo (being an AWD car) you can maintain control of the car when the tires start to lose traction way past the point that you can maintain control in a RWD car.

This is why the Viper pulls more Gs on a skid pad & accelerates faster than an Evo, but it can't touch the Evo in a slalom course.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

Sure. When can I drive yours?

buy me some new sticky tires and ill let you go to town for a day.

[BADDASSC6]

In all seriousness, EVO are actually pretty good track cars. They are definately well rounded (handling/ power/ brakes) and capable of running with boxxers and some 911s.

For anyone that is interested in going to the track with me here is the price breakdown:

1 day ~ $135
2 Days~ $250
Optional transponder rental is $30, but you are not allowed to rent them in the junior rungroups.

Helmets are a must. Each day you get 3x 20 minute sessions and 1x 25 minute session at the end. this is actually a great deal since they use the fees that we pay to subsidise some of the racers (BMW/ Porsche CUP cars, American Irons/ AIX, Camero Mustang Challenge, Time trials, Super sevens, ETC......). That great because the racers are tasked to be driving instructors in between there sessions/ races. That mean there will mostlikely be someone there that has alot of expierence running a car similar to what you are running.

Buttonwillow: They run it in primarily 2 configurations
1) clockwise with the lost hill and with out the Star Mazda corner
2) Counterclockwise with teh star mazda corner.

Willow spring: Only runfull course Clockwise. I was reaching 145mph on hte front straight with the stock motor and run flats!

I go with NASA PRO Racing which is a nation wide organization that hits just about every major track. If you've ever been autocrossing you will never go back after just one of these events.

[Vettezuki]

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I go with NASA PRO Racing which is a nation wide organization that hits just about every major track. If you've ever been autocrossing you will never go back after just one of these events.

Please provide a link(s) of where calendars for these events our and I'll put them in ours.

[st-evo-9*corn fed-8urvet*]

In all seriousness, EVO are actually pretty good track cars. They are definately well rounded (handling/ power/ brakes) and capable of running with boxxers and some 911s.

For anyone that is interested in going to the track with me here is the price breakdown:

1 day ~ $135
2 Days~ $250
Optional transponder rental is $30, but you are not allowed to rent them in the junior rungroups.

Helmets are a must. Each day you get 3x 20 minute sessions and 1x 25 minute session at the end. this is actually a great deal since they use the fees that we pay to subsidise some of the racers (BMW/ Porsche CUP cars, American Irons/ AIX, Camero Mustang Challenge, Time trials, Super sevens, ETC......). That great because the racers are tasked to be driving instructors in between there sessions/ races. That mean there will mostlikely be someone there that has alot of expierence running a car similar to what you are running.

Buttonwillow: They run it in primarily 2 configurations
1) clockwise with the lost hill and with out the Star Mazda corner
2) Counterclockwise with teh star mazda corner.

Willow spring: Only runfull course Clockwise. I was reaching 145mph on hte front straight with the stock motor and run flats!

I go with NASA PRO Racing which is a nation wide organization that hits just about every major track. If you've ever been autocrossing you will never go back after just one of these events.

thats actually a good price...... ive only seen one cheaper at $105 and it was an evo track day the forum organized years ago with a bunch of us but there really wasnt to much time to run for each car. oh ya and i got a freakin flat tire when we got there :-(

anywho buttonwillow is to far for may blood to drive but im down for willow springs or horse thief mile.

and one day i would really love to go around laguna saca! if i ever find myself in that area and im prepared to run my car im gonna have too just to experience it :hail:

[BADDASSC6]

I'm planning a Laguna Seca trip for this comming spring.


http://socal.drivenasa.com/schedule/2008-event-schedule.html

This is hte link fo rhte Socal Nasaprocaring calender. You should also check out the AZ and Norcal events since they offer some great tracks.